Ferrari could make any kind of marketing they want, they are a team that everyone loves and yet gets no happiness for supporting them. Ferrari has been like this for a long time as well, they tried their best chance with Vettel back in the day but they ended up still failing like that as well. This is why I believe that we are going to see Hamilton not do anything as well, look at how bad he got against Russell as well, dude becomes bad as soon as he is not racing with a teammate that doesn't just play nice.
All in all, Ferrari is making me mad as you can see lol, and I think it's quite weird that they keep spending all this money, even extra money compared to other teams, and they end up not being that great, what are their engineers doing every season and how are they managed so badly.
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April 26, 2024, 03:25:32 PM
April 26, 2024, 01:24:43 PM
according to some sources in Italy the negotiations between Newey and Ferrari have already been taking place for some time.
Talk about it had already started in the first week of March and someone has already started talking about possible contracts between the Redbull engineer and Ferrari.
Newey has rejected Ferrari several times in the past, preferring other teams. The expected role would be head of technical supervisor.
According to the press, other teams are trying but Ferrari is in pole position to get his genius.
Talk about it had already started in the first week of March and someone has already started talking about possible contracts between the Redbull engineer and Ferrari.
Newey has rejected Ferrari several times in the past, preferring other teams. The expected role would be head of technical supervisor.
According to the press, other teams are trying but Ferrari is in pole position to get his genius.
April 26, 2024, 11:21:17 AM
@Distraction, thanks for sharing the photos. 
I must admit that I didn't also like it. The racing suit is not bad but I can't say the same thing for the colors of the car. I'm really curious about whether there is something special with this blue for Ferrari. Because I don't remember them using these colors even for once but I would like to find out the reason of this.
Coming back to the season, Ferrari drivers didn't have a good weekend in China. The qualifying session didn't go well and they had to make an extra effort to climb some positions. Still I can't say their finishing positions were impressive. This time there was no Ferrari car on podium. I hope to see at least one of the drivers finishing on podium in Miami.
I must admit that I didn't also like it. The racing suit is not bad but I can't say the same thing for the colors of the car. I'm really curious about whether there is something special with this blue for Ferrari. Because I don't remember them using these colors even for once but I would like to find out the reason of this.Coming back to the season, Ferrari drivers didn't have a good weekend in China. The qualifying session didn't go well and they had to make an extra effort to climb some positions. Still I can't say their finishing positions were impressive. This time there was no Ferrari car on podium. I hope to see at least one of the drivers finishing on podium in Miami.
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April 26, 2024, 10:26:02 AM
It seems that this week's Jerez MotoGP Race will be much fiercer than the previous round because from what I saw in Free Practice1, the Marquez duo managed to occupy first place. However, in the Practice that had just finished I saw Bagnaia set another new record to occupy first place and take him through to Q2 for tomorrow's qualifying. And on the one hand, there are also several riders who have won wildcards, such as Dani Pedrosa, who will be joining the race on Sunday, so this race will probably be much more exciting than the previous series.
April 26, 2024, 06:12:20 AM
some news
South Korea and Thailand have announced that they will apply to the FIA to have a grand prix in their countries. An emissary will go to analyze the projects and decide on any candidature.
Ferrari will race with special colors for the Miami Grand Prix, nothing like this has ever been seen for a Ferrari.
It should be a blue or light blue Ferrari.
South Korea and Thailand have announced that they will apply to the FIA to have a grand prix in their countries. An emissary will go to analyze the projects and decide on any candidature.
Ferrari will race with special colors for the Miami Grand Prix, nothing like this has ever been seen for a Ferrari.
It should be a blue or light blue Ferrari.
Why are they doing such move,they have always raced in red from at least 1997 the year I started watching F1.This is a very and not at all common event for them so unless they are doing it for a special event it does not sound logical at all,even aiming at marketing it does not make sense as Ferrari sells the cars based on passion of buyers and are not relying on such strategy like changing color to boost sales.I don't get it why they do it.
April 26, 2024, 05:18:43 AM
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Ferrari will race with special colors for the Miami Grand Prix, nothing like this has ever been seen for a Ferrari.
It should be a blue or light blue Ferrari.
Ferrari will race with special colors for the Miami Grand Prix, nothing like this has ever been seen for a Ferrari.
It should be a blue or light blue Ferrari.
Yeah, Ferrari has announced their special colours for the Miami GP.
Truthfully I can't say I'm a fan of this kind of a design for the car. It reminds me of BMW Sauber F1 colours.
I liked that car though but I mean these colours don't fit a Ferrari. Because Ferrari is famous for its red colour.When it comes to special design I loved the special one by Red Bull for the 2021 Turkish GP.
Anyway we have a break of a week before the Miami GP and then we continue from where we left. There is going to be another sprint race by the way.
April 23, 2024, 01:45:19 PM
some news
South Korea and Thailand have announced that they will apply to the FIA to have a grand prix in their countries. An emissary will go to analyze the projects and decide on any candidature.
Ferrari will race with special colors for the Miami Grand Prix, nothing like this has ever been seen for a Ferrari.
It should be a blue or light blue Ferrari.
South Korea and Thailand have announced that they will apply to the FIA to have a grand prix in their countries. An emissary will go to analyze the projects and decide on any candidature.
Ferrari will race with special colors for the Miami Grand Prix, nothing like this has ever been seen for a Ferrari.
It should be a blue or light blue Ferrari.
April 23, 2024, 01:00:28 PM
This was 100% Strolls fault, Stroll should have looked at what's going on, it wasn't a break test like Stroll said, it was literally no room for Daniel to go further, he had to break, every had to, and Stroll didn't see that and crashed into Daniel. Even worse situation is that Stroll, someone who we all know doesn't deserve a seat, has the most guaranteed seat of all time, even though he sucks.
The memes coming from this incident are very funny though. My favorite is probably Piastri's comment that basically said Stroll is the only driver who crashes when an emergency brake is unavoidable. Other than that, meme edits of Stroll crashing on a pit stop are also quite funny. I dunno how his relationship with other drivers is, but Stroll definitely needs to get better unless he wants to get bullied each week due to his mistake. April 23, 2024, 07:57:26 AM
the "arguments" between the two Ferrari drivers are increasing.
Carlos and Charles are fighting aggressively on the track, both on Saturday and Sunday, in the sprint race and in the long race.
For now the situation is under control but given Sainz's already announced farewell at the end of the season the driders will have a lot of battles.
Sooner or later I predict a disastrous contact between the two, happy to be wrong but already after 4 races they risked colliding twice
Carlos and Charles are fighting aggressively on the track, both on Saturday and Sunday, in the sprint race and in the long race.
For now the situation is under control but given Sainz's already announced farewell at the end of the season the driders will have a lot of battles.
Sooner or later I predict a disastrous contact between the two, happy to be wrong but already after 4 races they risked colliding twice
Leclerc's radio was left open without realizing and we were able to hear all he felt during the overtake attempt against Sainz in the Chinese GP. Leclerc complained about Sainz's competing him more than the other drivers later. I must admit that Leclerc was right about it also.
Sainz just looks more aggressive this season definitely. He likes to push it to the limit in every race. Since Sainz heard that Ferrari wouldn't continue with him and signed Hamilton instead, he has been much more ambitious.
He looks like he wants to prove what Ferrari will miss... However as the driver they have agreed with is Hamilton I don't think Ferrari will be too sad.
April 22, 2024, 03:44:10 PM
It is such a sad fact that these type of idiotic moves by others could end up with Daniel Ricciardo end up not having a career in F1, he was hired to see if he would be a good second driver for Max, this is his test, and so many unlucky stuff happened to him since his return, including even breaking his arm I think if I do not remember wrong, and bad things keep happening to him.
This was 100% Strolls fault, Stroll should have looked at what's going on, it wasn't a break test like Stroll said, it was literally no room for Daniel to go further, he had to break, every had to, and Stroll didn't see that and crashed into Daniel. Even worse situation is that Stroll, someone who we all know doesn't deserve a seat, has the most guaranteed seat of all time, even though he sucks.
This was 100% Strolls fault, Stroll should have looked at what's going on, it wasn't a break test like Stroll said, it was literally no room for Daniel to go further, he had to break, every had to, and Stroll didn't see that and crashed into Daniel. Even worse situation is that Stroll, someone who we all know doesn't deserve a seat, has the most guaranteed seat of all time, even though he sucks.
April 22, 2024, 02:54:31 PM
there is a proposal for the 2025 season.
They are thinking of changing the number of points assigned to finishing positions.
Now we have 10 drivers rewarded with points, they are thinking of reaching 12, for the first 8 positions nothing would change in the final score, it would only change for the last 4.
They are thinking of changing the number of points assigned to finishing positions.
Now we have 10 drivers rewarded with points, they are thinking of reaching 12, for the first 8 positions nothing would change in the final score, it would only change for the last 4.
April 22, 2024, 10:04:58 AM
the "arguments" between the two Ferrari drivers are increasing.
Carlos and Charles are fighting aggressively on the track, both on Saturday and Sunday, in the sprint race and in the long race.
For now the situation is under control but given Sainz's already announced farewell at the end of the season the driders will have a lot of battles.
Sooner or later I predict a disastrous contact between the two, happy to be wrong but already after 4 races they risked colliding twice
Carlos and Charles are fighting aggressively on the track, both on Saturday and Sunday, in the sprint race and in the long race.
For now the situation is under control but given Sainz's already announced farewell at the end of the season the driders will have a lot of battles.
Sooner or later I predict a disastrous contact between the two, happy to be wrong but already after 4 races they risked colliding twice
Well I didn't see any danger of collision during the last race between the two and the one who should be careful is Leclerc because Sainz has already been said farewell by the team so he can risk much more than Leclerc and in the end as they say fortune favors the bold meaning Sainz can finish the season with more points than Leclerc.I think the upgrade of the car if done right means that chances of collisions will be even higher than now.
April 22, 2024, 08:51:46 AM
The F1 race was fun and boring at the same time.
Max and Redbull are clearly the strongest but with less margin than last year.
Ferrari will perhaps return to being competitive for victories only after the Imola Grand Prix since the updates are only scheduled for that date, while Redbull and Mclaren have already brought substantial updates during these races. Until then they will only be able to compete if Redbull has some problems.
Merdeces is a disaster.
Max and Redbull are clearly the strongest but with less margin than last year.
Ferrari will perhaps return to being competitive for victories only after the Imola Grand Prix since the updates are only scheduled for that date, while Redbull and Mclaren have already brought substantial updates during these races. Until then they will only be able to compete if Redbull has some problems.
Merdeces is a disaster.
I second that about Mercedes... I think Hamilton already saw the writing on the wall a year before he decided not to renew his contract with Mercedes then made the decision to sign up with Ferrari. We've seen it before and what had happened. Will we see it again? I'd say yes please... I would looove a very competitive Ferrari for a change. Play time is over. Splash the cash and get Horner in and back Hamilton!
Man oh man, what an exciting season will that be.
Anyway... Miami in a couple of weeks.
April 22, 2024, 08:14:18 AM
the "arguments" between the two Ferrari drivers are increasing.
Carlos and Charles are fighting aggressively on the track, both on Saturday and Sunday, in the sprint race and in the long race.
For now the situation is under control but given Sainz's already announced farewell at the end of the season the driders will have a lot of battles.
Sooner or later I predict a disastrous contact between the two, happy to be wrong but already after 4 races they risked colliding twice
Carlos and Charles are fighting aggressively on the track, both on Saturday and Sunday, in the sprint race and in the long race.
For now the situation is under control but given Sainz's already announced farewell at the end of the season the driders will have a lot of battles.
Sooner or later I predict a disastrous contact between the two, happy to be wrong but already after 4 races they risked colliding twice
April 22, 2024, 03:02:13 AM
-snip-
Alonso deserves a special mention. He showed his experience throughout the race. Stroll, who is younger and has the same car, but the difference in experience is something else. Alonso is doing a great job despite the bad car underneath. I hope he will have a car to compete for the championship before he retires. And congratulations to Hamilton. Despite all the negativity, he still got his points. Zhou also put on a show in front of his home crowd with his transitions. The worst of the week was Ferrari and they didn't improve at all. But I'm no longer surprised by Ferrari's situation.
Alonso deserves a special mention. He showed his experience throughout the race. Stroll, who is younger and has the same car, but the difference in experience is something else. Alonso is doing a great job despite the bad car underneath. I hope he will have a car to compete for the championship before he retires. And congratulations to Hamilton. Despite all the negativity, he still got his points. Zhou also put on a show in front of his home crowd with his transitions. The worst of the week was Ferrari and they didn't improve at all. But I'm no longer surprised by Ferrari's situation.
At this point, I saw that Stroll was like a spoiled brat, who got his seat thanks to the privileges provided by his father, because seeing how he acted when he bumped into Daniel and he instead blamed Daniel for his own mistakes - and even Daniel got a worse penalty than him. It's quite disgusting to see how Stroll treats other drivers like trash because he has a billionaire father, but that's the fact in F1 today, only those with money and influence can control.
And for the Ferrari duo, I can't say that their performance is stagnant, in fact looking at their current performance is very good, it's just that RB has a pretty crazy car, but at least this is a good performance for them.
April 21, 2024, 05:26:24 PM
Exactly.
The positive side of this season is that Redbull's competitors have gained a lot of time but not enough yet.
In fact, in recent races, if we compare them to last year's races, many teams have halved or more than halved the disadvantage they had at the end of the race from Max.
The more the years go by, the closer the cars will get but a new technical change is already planned for 2026 so it could reset everything again in favor of Red Bull
The positive side of this season is that Redbull's competitors have gained a lot of time but not enough yet.
In fact, in recent races, if we compare them to last year's races, many teams have halved or more than halved the disadvantage they had at the end of the race from Max.
The more the years go by, the closer the cars will get but a new technical change is already planned for 2026 so it could reset everything again in favor of Red Bull
April 21, 2024, 04:58:24 PM
The F1 race was fun and boring at the same time.
Max and Redbull are clearly the strongest but with less margin than last year.
Ferrari will perhaps return to being competitive for victories only after the Imola Grand Prix since the updates are only scheduled for that date, while Redbull and Mclaren have already brought substantial updates during these races. Until then they will only be able to compete if Redbull has some problems.
Merdeces is a disaster.
Max and Redbull are clearly the strongest but with less margin than last year.
Ferrari will perhaps return to being competitive for victories only after the Imola Grand Prix since the updates are only scheduled for that date, while Redbull and Mclaren have already brought substantial updates during these races. Until then they will only be able to compete if Redbull has some problems.
Merdeces is a disaster.
Mercedes is a true disaster this season,the fact that the car of Hamilton was sliding without balance in most of the turns means only one thing,and that is that Mercedes has absolutely got 0 things right for this season.I doubt a lot they will be able to balance the car even if they bring upgrades to the car,the performance of these races has been just horrendous and I doubt this is going to change during this season.The director of Ferrari,Vasseyur said that Totto Wolff is not used to losing yet this is a huge losing season for him in the first place and for every member of the team.
For Ferrari they better bring some substantial upgrades in Imola and make a change to their pace to make them being as competitive as to win a race again and make the season not as much boring as it is now.
April 21, 2024, 04:38:04 PM
The F1 race was fun and boring at the same time.
Max and Redbull are clearly the strongest but with less margin than last year.
Ferrari will perhaps return to being competitive for victories only after the Imola Grand Prix since the updates are only scheduled for that date, while Redbull and Mclaren have already brought substantial updates during these races. Until then they will only be able to compete if Redbull has some problems.
Merdeces is a disaster.
Max and Redbull are clearly the strongest but with less margin than last year.
Ferrari will perhaps return to being competitive for victories only after the Imola Grand Prix since the updates are only scheduled for that date, while Redbull and Mclaren have already brought substantial updates during these races. Until then they will only be able to compete if Redbull has some problems.
Merdeces is a disaster.
April 21, 2024, 12:03:13 PM
The Chinese GP was an exciting race. The decision to switch from the first virtual safety car to a direct safety car initially threw a wrench into the plans of Ferrari, who had already changed their tires, but it all worked to the benefit of Red Bull and Norris, who had changed their tires with the safety car decision, I think Norris was already the best this weekend.
Alonso deserves a special mention. He showed his experience throughout the race. Stroll, who is younger and has the same car, but the difference in experience is something else. Alonso is doing a great job despite the bad car underneath. I hope he will have a car to compete for the championship before he retires. And congratulations to Hamilton. Despite all the negativity, he still got his points. Zhou also put on a show in front of his home crowd with his transitions. The worst of the week was Ferrari and they didn't improve at all. But I'm no longer surprised by Ferrari's situation.
It was not bad race indeed. Norris 2nd place is huge achievement, finishing ahead one of Red Bulls is something what we probably won't see many times this season. Alonso is great as susual, but I have no words about Stroll - how you can make such stupid mistake and don't even admit that was your fault. Really can't stand him.Alonso deserves a special mention. He showed his experience throughout the race. Stroll, who is younger and has the same car, but the difference in experience is something else. Alonso is doing a great job despite the bad car underneath. I hope he will have a car to compete for the championship before he retires. And congratulations to Hamilton. Despite all the negativity, he still got his points. Zhou also put on a show in front of his home crowd with his transitions. The worst of the week was Ferrari and they didn't improve at all. But I'm no longer surprised by Ferrari's situation.
For me it looked strange why it took so long to remove Bottas car that they needed to switch from VSC to real safety car.
Zhou - well, I counted on him that he can finish in points on his home Gp, but he was far from it.
April 21, 2024, 08:32:39 AM
Please include all the guys on the grid, not just the top 10.
I was intending to keep the image at an ideal size so I inserted a link which was taking the user to the website for full results. But I would do it like that from now on, no problem.
We have the race results!
Truthfully it was really much more fun than the Suzuka Grand Prix. We watched many overtakes and SCs also. It wasn't a difficult race for Verstappen and he got the win easily as expected.
However the biggest surprise of the day was Norris' extra performance. After the last SC entered the pit Norris maintained a really great pace that even Perez couldn't get near him enough to go for an overtake.
I must add how satisfied I was with Alonso and Hamilton's efforts also. Alonso followed a different strategy and it turned out not to be a good one. But despite that he made a great comeback. Hamilton also gained a lot of positions despite having struggles with the car.
Kewl... And yup, it was def a better race than the Japanese GP but gotta say... I kinda got bored mid way as it was so sure gonna be another win for Verstappen. And not just that, kinda got disappointed with Alonso, Bottas and Ricciardo. The latter had technical problems but Alonso I'm not so sure. Maybe if he didn't try so hard vs Perez during the start of the race and preserved his tires, maybe he would've had a different strategy and either maintain third or prolly get better.
But dunno, pretty sure coinlocket$ could give a better evaluation.
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