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It was really quite a tense and quite spectacular race today in Portimao Portugal and even though Jorge Martin and Enea Bastianini were able to maintain the rhythm of the race until they finished on the podium today. My attention today is more focused on a rookie, namely Pedro Acosta, who was able to beat the defending champion (Bagnaia) and also the eight-time MotoGP champion (Marquez) before the two fell due to a collision on the left corner. And today is certainly a very happy day for a rookie because he can immediately experience the podium in the second round of MotoGP this season. Congratulations to Pedro Acosta for his first podium in the MotoGP class.

Too bad there was an accident between Marc and Pecco that made them crashed although March was still able to finish in 16th place Smiley
Bad luck for Vinales as well because he crashed in the last lap while he should be able to finish on 2nd position to make a good overall result on this 2nd race after he won the Sprint Race yesterday.
For the rookie Pedro Acosta, nothing else to say except "amazing" as he rides like nothing to lose and he does not care about who his competitors.
He can be said as the next "baby alien" or "baby alien reincarnation" LOL because his riding style looks similar to Marc when he was young.
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wonderful race for Ferrari especially with Carlos.

He managed to maintain an excellent pace throughout the race.
Charsle had some problems with the tires but managed to take second place and set the fastest lap.

The Redbull is still the clearly dominant car.
But as demonstrated in the preseason tests, it could have problems with tire degradation.

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Verstapppen, Hamilton and Russell all couldn't finish the race. This was the only way Verstappen would fail and it really happened. It was a really poor weekend for Mercedes. Russell's crash was very unfortunate as it happened during the last lap. It was the same for Hamilton when his engine died all of a sudden.  Sad

I wasn't expecting to see such an interesting race honestly. A podium of Sainz - Leclerc - Norris was quite unexpected. Sainz indeed came back strongly by a win. He got only one win in the previous season so I'm curious about whether he will improve this number this year.

I don't see where the race was interesting at all,as after Verstappen failed because of the brakes I saw a Sainz fully dominating the race just like Verstappen would have done if he had not problems.This showed the big difference in cars together with each other,the only car driving fast was McLaren as they were driving the fastest but that was not enough because the gap was already big enough and as such I didn't see any interesting fact in this race.The fact that both Hamilton and Russell said that the Redbull was like a rocket ship meaning the car was very fast compared to them was not fast enough to fight the McLaren-s and Ferrari-s,another fact which further emphasizes that Verstappen is a great driver much better than Perez and the rest of the grid.
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It was really quite a tense and quite spectacular race today in Portimao Portugal and even though Jorge Martin and Enea Bastianini were able to maintain the rhythm of the race until they finished on the podium today. My attention today is more focused on a rookie, namely Pedro Acosta, who was able to beat the defending champion (Bagnaia) and also the eight-time MotoGP champion (Marquez) before the two fell due to a collision on the left corner. And today is certainly a very happy day for a rookie because he can immediately experience the podium in the second round of MotoGP this season. Congratulations to Pedro Acosta for his first podium in the MotoGP class.
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Verstapppen, Hamilton and Russell all couldn't finish the race. This was the only way Verstappen would fail and it really happened. It was a really poor weekend for Mercedes. Russell's crash was very unfortunate as it happened during the last lap. It was the same for Hamilton when his engine died all of a sudden.  Sad

I wasn't expecting to see such an interesting race honestly. A podium of Sainz - Leclerc - Norris was quite unexpected. Sainz indeed came back strongly by a win. He got only one win in the previous season so I'm curious about whether he will improve this number this year.
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We finally watched a different race!  Grin  Verstappen had a mechanical failure in the first laps of the race and said goodbye early. His rear brake exploded like a bomb and his car caught fire after that. This completely changed the race really. Sainz had a big opportunity ahead of him and used it in a great way by winning the race.  Smiley

This was a wonderful weekend for Ferrari as they captured top 2 positions. It was the same for McLaren also. Norris was the last member of podium and Piastri was right behind.

After undergoing a surgery this was the best return scenario for Sainz. Huge congrats to him.

Yeah...  Leclerc should've done better at quali imho.  It would've been his race to win.  But over all good results for Ferrari and McLaren.  Bad ones for Red Bull and Mercedes.  Cheesy  Are we seeing a premonition of what's to come in the next couple of years?  Grin  One thing's for sure...  Without Horner and Newey, Red Bull won't be the same team.

Here are the results.

2024 F1 Australian GP Race Results

Carlos Sainz  1:20:26.843   
Charles Leclerc  +2.366s   
Lando Norris  +5.904s   
Oscar Piastri  +35.770s   
Sergio Perez  +56.309s   
Lance Stroll  +93.222s   
Yuki Tsunoda  +95.601s   
Fernando Alonso  +100.992s   
Nico Hulkenberg     +104.553s   
Kevin Magnussen  +1 lap   
Alexander Albon  +1 lap
Daniel Ricciardo  +1 lap   
Pierre Gasly  +1 lap   
Valtteri Bottas  +1 lap   
Zhou Guanyu  +1 lap
Esteban Ocon  +1 lap   
George Russell  DNF   
Lewis Hamilton  DNF   
Max Verstappen  DNF

2024 F1 Australian GP Race Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z8sEadieXA
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Toprak Razgatlıoglu's skill in the WSBK race for today's Race2 session really amazed the audience because he managed to overtake Alvaro Bautista at the final corner of Catalunya just like Valentino Rossi overtook Jorge Lorenzo in MotoGP 2009 at the same point too. This really gave a pretty sweet impression to BMW and Toprak because he was immediately able to adapt himself to a motorbike that was very different from last year.

Now I'm waiting for the Portimao MotoGP race because yesterday Marquez also put up quite a fierce fight in getting his best position. Although I thought that Marquez would not get a good position before Bagnaia left the track and managed to finish in the top four and today everyone will see how each rider competes for the best position because on average Ducati motorbikes are very good here (Circuit Portimao).
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We finally watched a different race!  Grin  Verstappen had a mechanical failure in the first laps of the race and said goodbye early. His rear brake exploded like a bomb and his car caught fire after that. This completely changed the race really. Sainz had a big opportunity ahead of him and used it in a great way by winning the race.  Smiley

This was a wonderful weekend for Ferrari as they captured top 2 positions. It was the same for McLaren also. Norris was the last member of podium and Piastri was right behind.

After undergoing a surgery this was the best return scenario for Sainz. Huge congrats to him.
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Sergio Perez had a 3 places penalty for impeding in today's practice and will now start fifth behind the second Ferrari.

Another mistake for this driver who proved to be quite weak.

But maybe that's exactly what Redbull wants.
A second driver that is unable compete with Max's victories and that at the end of the championship still manages to finish second ahead of the others.

I think Perez is a great wingman but when it comes to actually deliver , he is not there but overall , like you said , he can't compete with Max at all but on the same time this should be where he ends his F1 career because I don't see a new team offering him a new contract while so many young drivers are waiting for an F1 seat.  Grin

Almost 5 hours left until race and I think Ferrari will snatch this race with Leclerc as a winner.
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Sergio Perez had a 3 places penalty for impeding in today's practice and will now start fifth behind the second Ferrari.

Another mistake for this driver who proved to be quite weak.

But maybe that's exactly what Redbull wants.
A second driver that is unable compete with Max's victories and that at the end of the championship still manages to finish second ahead of the others.
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I didn't watch the qualifying, too early in the morning.
Excellent time for Sainz after the operation although I don't think it's such an invasive operation to undergo nowadays and I don't think he has any pain in the operated area.

I read about some errors in the settings in Leclerc's car.
Finally, I understand that Ferrari seems to be lighter in the tyres than Red Bull on this track with race lap pace, we'll see.


Ferrari should stop this leclerc love, it's like they've been trying for how many seasons, when sainz is clearly better in many aspects, it just doesn't work. If sainz is so close to verstappen with this car, they'd go head to head if he's a redbull driver. Leclerc's regular vilification has nothing to do with jealousy. In order for an f1 driver to be praised, he must have something extra, but Leclerc does not show these. Verstappen has not done something extra for 2 seasons because the car is strong, but Leclerc cannot do it when he has the opportunity.

I am sure we will see Sainz at Mercedes most likely next year as he will more likely be swapping places with Hamilton.I don't know if this will be a good move for him or maybe he will wait one year without a sit in Formula 1 waiting that promise from Audi many claim to be engaging Sainz for their first season in F1 during the 2026 season,I don't know what he will do but I do hope to see him in a F1 sit next season,he is one of the best drivers out there,no doubts about it.Ferrari love for Leclerc is just there,is a Ferrari thing,if you have seen over the years they have always had 1 first driver and a 2nd one and this I am afraid is not going to change any time soon,it just happened for Sainz to have joined later the Ferrari and as such to be considered the 2nd driver for the team.
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I didn't watch the qualifying, too early in the morning.
Excellent time for Sainz after the operation although I don't think it's such an invasive operation to undergo nowadays and I don't think he has any pain in the operated area.

I read about some errors in the settings in Leclerc's car.
Finally, I understand that Ferrari seems to be lighter in the tyres than Red Bull on this track with race lap pace, we'll see.


Ferrari should stop this leclerc love, it's like they've been trying for how many seasons, when sainz is clearly better in many aspects, it just doesn't work. If sainz is so close to verstappen with this car, they'd go head to head if he's a redbull driver. Leclerc's regular vilification has nothing to do with jealousy. In order for an f1 driver to be praised, he must have something extra, but Leclerc does not show these. Verstappen has not done something extra for 2 seasons because the car is strong, but Leclerc cannot do it when he has the opportunity.
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If Sainz had rested a bit more,  I wonder what would have happened. This dude had a surgery, came back a week later, and now he is at second place, starting at the front of the grid. Normally you would expect him to slow down at least a bit, and that would make sense considering his situation, but looking at what is going on right now, we can say that it is not the same and really looking like there is a big change to it.

I hope Sainz does well in general and do not face any of this issues with his surgery, it feels like he doesn't feel "nothing" but also he must be forgetting all the stress and anxiety with all the pain he probably has. All that G force to a newly carved up person must feel a lot of pain, so he might be focusing better.
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Sargeant is a big disappointment for Williams considering how Albon has performed so far. I was even doubtful about Sargeant to have a second chance for this season honestly.

This must be why they did such thing like giving Sargeant's car to Albon after Albon's crash. They don't trust Sargeant as much as Albon. I think any other team in the same situation would do the same as well. Anyways, we have the qualifying results and Verstappen is on pole which isn't surprising.  Smiley  While Sainz was doing a good work too Leclerc couldn't show a good performance. I'm curious about who will be faster during the race.
Yeah, when they extended contract with Sargeant for this season I was very surprised because his performance last year was so poor. It's understandable that Williams have more trust in Albon, but still, this situation doesn't smells good as it wasn't Sargeant fault.
Didn't watched qualifying - sacrificing sleep on both weekend days is a bit too much for me Smiley. Not sure that I missed a lot, but already set up few alarm clocks on tomorrow's race.
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Phenomenal practice session for Marc Marquez today with the Ducati.
Unfortunately for him it was only free practice but he finished first and it hadn't happened to him for several months.

Let's see if he can do it again tomorrow but it's certainly encouraging for his season.
I don't think he can compete in the race but in qualifying he could have his say in the possible fight for poleposition.

Bastianini confirmed for me today that he has the absolute right to be in the factory Ducati team alongside Bagnaia, Marc was and has always been an exceptional rider but he has passed his zenith and will not become world champion again (as has been mentioned several times), the young generation now clearly has the upper hand in MotoGP, which I also think is good. The generation change has clearly happened after Rossi and Marc.

This change was difficult for me and Rossi fans and is now also coming to Marc fans.
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I didn't watch the qualifying, too early in the morning.
Excellent time for Sainz after the operation although I don't think it's such an invasive operation to undergo nowadays and I don't think he has any pain in the operated area.

I read about some errors in the settings in Leclerc's car.
Finally, I understand that Ferrari seems to be lighter in the tyres than Red Bull on this track with race lap pace, we'll see.

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Logan Sargeant will miss Australian GP. His car is given to Alex Albon. During practice Albon had big crash, car suffered serious damage and Williams didn't had 3rd chasis to replace crashed one. So, they decided to sacrifice Sargeant.
From team perspective it's understandable, Albon have more chances to fight for points. But what kind of message they"re sending to Albon, I don't know... He haven't done nothing wrong and now he is forced to miss race because of temmate mistake.

Sargeant is a big disappointment for Williams considering how Albon has performed so far. I was even doubtful about Sargeant to have a second chance for this season honestly.

This must be why they did such thing like giving Sargeant's car to Albon after Albon's crash. They don't trust Sargeant as much as Albon. I think any other team in the same situation would do the same as well. Anyways, we have the qualifying results and Verstappen is on pole which isn't surprising.  Smiley  While Sainz was doing a good work too Leclerc couldn't show a good performance. I'm curious about who will be faster during the race.
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Today's WSBK Catalunya race was quite intense after Nicolo Bulega led the race on a Ducati motorbike from the Arubat.it Racing team, where he left his opponents behind by more than four seconds before being overtaken by Toprak on his BMW motorbike, which was extraordinary because The BMW manufacturer has not experienced victory in the WSBK event for a long time. Apart from that, Toprak, who is new to the BMW team this season, can immediately win with a struggle like that, which really deserves praise because last season he rode a very different motorbike to this season. Now I will wait for the Sprint Race for MotoGP Portimao Portugal.
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But what kind of message they"re sending to Albon, I don't know... He haven't done nothing wrong and now he is forced to miss race because of temmate mistake.
I assume something like this is mentioned in his contract, or there is a clause that the manufacturer can use whenever extraordinary incidents happen. Otherwise wouldn't it be possible for the driver to sue them if stuff like this happens? How shitty it would be if a racer who can win the championship can't race because his teammate is better and more likely to win just because the manufacturers run out of cars to use. Although if that does happen maybe they won't do it like this.
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Starting grid for the upcoming Portuguese MotoGP.
Not a good start for Marquez as he did not his best during the Qualifying round because he crashed on the run 1 and unable to get his best time.
Ducati is still dominating as predicted but I did not expect Bastianini to take the pole position as I thought it will be taken by Pecco or Martin.
How about Honda? The 4 riders take the last 4 positions LOL, how long they need to improve their bike and make it competitive again?

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