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I'm getting even more bored each day while waiting on the next GP in Formula 1. Sad

I just don't get it. Why would you want to give another break which is at the length of a summer break?

It is said they claim to be thinking of the environment in terms of carbon footprint and so on. Just come on! Do you really believe you can contribute to it that much by such a move? It is just a show, nothing more.

I hope we don't see this nonsense in 2025 season. Even drivers and teams must be questioning why they are doing this. I mean they of course get an opportunity to take a vacation in the meantime but this just decreases the time gap between the end of this season and the beginning of next one.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 05, 2024, 07:46:52 AM

Crashes seems to be a common thing for Acosta, I cant really remember how many times he crashed this season but I think he crashes more than the other riders.
More unfortunately, most of his crashes were self accident which means there is something wrong with himself or with his bike.
He is a great young potential rider and as a rookie, he should take this season as a learning season where he can get more experiences to improve his skills for the upcoming season.

A young rider who still needs more learning with the bike and the characteristics of the machine he uses should be considered normal when he crashes more than other riders this season. But if you are looking to find out who the riders who crashed the most in 2024 or this season, you might be a little surprised because Marquez still leads the standings for the most crashes this season followed by Pedro Acosta in second place in terms of the most crashes this season. And next season Pedro Acosta will be on the KTM factory team so he is expected to make a little difference with his achievements in a full season. Here is a presentation of the data of riders who crashed this year;

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 06, 2024, 12:40:11 AM

A very strong race from Bagnaia so far, generally a very good weekend for him if he doesn't crash in the final laps. But Martin is the biggest surprise in today's race, to go from 11th to 2nd is not easy, very strong.

Another crash by Acosta unfortunately and it makes Pecco almost untouchable since Acosta crashed Sad

What is wrong with him?
Martin and Marc did their best today because both started the race from 11th and 9th but they could finish on 2nd and 3rd.
Martin tried really hard to cut the gap to Pecco and he almost did it in the last few laps but Pecco was fighting back which make Martin think realistic that it wont be possible to catch Pecco with just few laps remaining.
Perhaps the race will be much more interesting if the rain really come

4 Races remaining, the competition to be champion will be between Pecco and Martin only because I think there is no longer opportunity for Enea and Marc.

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Congratulations to Pecco Bagnaia who has won the full race at the Motegi circuit in Japan today and that has completed a very satisfying weekend for Bagnaia because he was able to win in the Sprint yesterday and also won in the full race today. And a rather unfortunate fate also happened to Pedro Acosta because he fell at the last corner while in second place after starting the race for several laps, although he had time to rejoin, but also to no avail. While Marquez also managed to get third place because Bastianini was no longer able to catch up when the sun began to shine on the circuit when the race still had several laps left.

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A very strong race from Bagnaia so far, generally a very good weekend for him if he doesn't crash in the final laps. But Martin is the biggest surprise in today's race, to go from 11th to 2nd is not easy, very strong.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 05, 2024, 08:41:29 AM

Yeah, currently the only undecided seats are there. I don't know who would be eager to race for Kick Sauber. Tongue

Maybe they would bring another young driver from F2.

For Racing Bulls, isn't it already decided that it is going to be Liam Lawson? Huh

Or was it just for the remaining part of the season?

I think Bottas in the end will find a seat.
I mean he is an experienced driver and teams always want a driver like them, polite experienced.

I don't think that teams wants 2 young drivers, who better than an "old driver" for give the information they need to the engineers to be able to build a better car?
Is better to take even a slower (no too much slower) driver but that he helps in the development.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 04, 2024, 12:15:59 PM

IF williams still in this path for this lasts race of the season i can see them overpassing HAAS and RB teams at the end of the season, and that it can be a super blow for the other teams and a super bump in energy and money for the Williams team.

I hope to see them with a much better car for the next season.

Yeah, if Williams can maintain their current performance it will not be impossible for them to overtake HAAS or RB in terms of points, especially since quite a lot of people are paying special attention to Colapinto who can get more points than what Logan achieved in several races, he can be a good capital for Williams to be able to score more points in the next race. Now we just need to wait and see how Liam performs, if he has a good performance, maybe Williams will have a little difficulty in overtaking their points.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 04, 2024, 03:17:09 PM

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Yeah, currently the only undecided seats are there. I don't know who would be eager to race for Kick Sauber. Tongue

Maybe they would bring another young driver from F2.

For Racing Bulls, isn't it already decided that it is going to be Liam Lawson? Huh

Or was it just for the remaining part of the season?

Quote from: tokeweed on October 05, 2024, 07:20:02 AM

Ah thanks for pointing that out... Mmm ok, so we already saw how their car performs in a street circuit. I wanna see it perform in a proper F1 track and I guess the next race will def show just that at Circuit of The Americas in Texas.

But if Norris is still fast in his McLaren then we'll def have some interesting races coming up til the end of the season. Wink

It's gonna be the start of Red Bull's down fall imho, thanks to Jos Verstappen for disturbing the peace within the team. I hope Horner leaves too.

My pleasure. I hope McLaren keeps up the good work by the next race also. I don't want them to gift the constructor championship to Red Bull. Sad

In fact, I'm okay with McLaren and Ferrari both about winning the title.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 05, 2024, 01:13:59 AM

Congratulations on the first pole position for Acosta, Marc Marquez set the fastest time, but was rightly penalised for the track limit and so Acosta has pole position ahead of Bagnaia. Martin crashed and Bagnaia will try to make up points in the championship standings.

Starting the Sprint from first position was clearly very good for Pedro Acosta even though at the start of the Sprint he was immediately overtaken by Bagnaia, but he also had a better time to catch Bagnaia again after a few laps. But unfortunately Pedro Acosta could not maintain his first position while leading the Sprint today so he crashed with four laps left to go. It was really very painful for a rookie Pedro Acosta and Marquez also almost got second position in today's Sprint, but Bastianini did not give that opportunity to Marquez because Bastianini also wanted to be in second position. Now Bagnaia and Martin's points have been cut again because Martin could only finish in the top four in today's Sprint.

Crashes seems to be a common thing for Acosta, I cant really remember how many times he crashed this season but I think he crashes more than the other riders.
More unfortunately, most of his crashes were self accident which means there is something wrong with himself or with his bike.
He is a great young potential rider and as a rookie, he should take this season as a learning season where he can get more experiences to improve his skills for the upcoming season.
The best moment in today's Sprint Race is exactly the duel between Enea vs Marquez but unfortunately it was happened in few corners only in the 11th lap.
It would be much more interesting if there were more laps to go

hopefully tomorrow will be much interesting race to watch.

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Bagnaia managed to win the sprint race so now the leader board is short once again.

Martin is still leading but his advantage is reduced to only 15 points ahead of Bagnaia.
Bastianini is in 3rd position but he is too far away to have some chances, he is at -72 points.
Tomorrow we will have the race and the points will change once again.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 04, 2024, 10:47:40 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2024, 06:42:35 AM

McLaren's advantage is gone folks. There's nothing to see here anymore... They don't have the best car. And the funny is... Leclerc could snag second in the driver's championship.

Not exactly. When Norris won by this big of a time gap in Singapore, McLaren already had a new wing after the previous one providing a mini DRS was found illegal.

Ah thanks for pointing that out... Mmm ok, so we already saw how their car performs in a street circuit. I wanna see it perform in a proper F1 track and I guess the next race will def show just that at Circuit of The Americas in Texas.

But if Norris is still fast in his McLaren then we'll def have some interesting races coming up til the end of the season. Wink

It's gonna be the start of Red Bull's down fall imho, thanks to Jos Verstappen for disturbing the peace within the team. I hope Horner leaves too.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 05, 2024, 01:39:01 AM

Thanks for the conclusion, I live in Europe and didn't have time to watch the qualifying and the sprint race. Too bad for Acosta, but maybe it was too early for a win, Martin will have a hard time not to lose many points against Bagnaia again tomorrow, maybe I'll manage to see the race tomorrow morning.

Winning will always mean more to a rider like Pedro Acosta, especially tomorrow he will also start the race in first position. But considering Bagnaia, Martin, Bastianini and Marquez will also continue to dominate the front row, of course it won't be easy for a rookie like Pedro Acosta to maintain his position tomorrow. But I'm pretty sure that Pedro Acosta can be on the podium tomorrow if he doesn't crash in the middle of the race like he did in the Sprint today And for the schedule itself is also quite ideal because the time difference between Japan and the country where I live now is not too far so I can definitely watch it like I watched the Sprint today.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on October 05, 2024, 01:33:29 AM

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Thanks for the conclusion, I live in Europe and didn't have time to watch the qualifying and the sprint race. Too bad for Acosta, but maybe it was too early for a win, Martin will have a hard time not to lose many points against Bagnaia again tomorrow, maybe I'll manage to see the race tomorrow morning.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 05, 2024, 01:13:59 AM

Congratulations on the first pole position for Acosta, Marc Marquez set the fastest time, but was rightly penalised for the track limit and so Acosta has pole position ahead of Bagnaia. Martin crashed and Bagnaia will try to make up points in the championship standings.

Starting the Sprint from first position was clearly very good for Pedro Acosta even though at the start of the Sprint he was immediately overtaken by Bagnaia, but he also had a better time to catch Bagnaia again after a few laps. But unfortunately Pedro Acosta could not maintain his first position while leading the Sprint today so he crashed with four laps left to go. It was really very painful for a rookie Pedro Acosta and Marquez also almost got second position in today's Sprint, but Bastianini did not give that opportunity to Marquez because Bastianini also wanted to be in second position. Now Bagnaia and Martin's points have been cut again because Martin could only finish in the top four in today's Sprint.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on October 04, 2024, 11:57:59 PM

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Congratulations on the first pole position for Acosta, Marc Marquez set the fastest time, but was rightly penalised for the track limit and so Acosta has pole position ahead of Bagnaia. Martin crashed and Bagnaia will try to make up points in the championship standings.

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Pedro Acosta successfully achieved his first pole position of the season at the Motegi circuit in Japan and it was extraordinary considering he is a rookie in MotoGP at the moment who is on an independent team using the KTM RC16 engine. I have seen how he worked hard this season until he was able to finish second when racing in Mandalika last week and today he must also be considered a pretty dangerous rider because he could have won the Sprint today and also the full race on Sunday tomorrow. In addition Jorgen Martin had to start the Sprint and the full race in a very bad position this season because he had crashed in the final minutes of qualifying.

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2025 F1 driver line-up
Driver   Team   Contract End
Max Verstappen   Red Bull   2028
Sergio Perez   Red Bull   2026
Lewis Hamilton   Ferrari   multi-year
Charles Leclerc   Ferrari   multi-year
George Russell   Mercedes   2025
Andrea Kimi Antonelli   Mercedes   Unknown
Lando Norris   McLaren   "Long-term"
Oscar Piastri   McLaren   2026
Lance Stroll   Aston Martin   "2025 and beyond"
Fernando Alonso   Aston Martin   multi-year
Alex Albon   Williams   2025
Carlos Sainz   Williams   "Beyond 2026"
Nico Hulkenberg   Sauber   multi-year
Pierre Gasly   Alpine   "Long-term"
Jack Doohan   Alpine   2025
Esteban Ocon   Haas   multi-year
Oliver Bearman   Haas   multi-year
Yuki Tsunoda   Visa Cash App RB   2025

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046665/1/2025-f1-driver-line-who-confirmed-and-rumoured-2025-grid

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Quote from: alegotardo on October 03, 2024, 08:25:58 PM

In this regard, it is hilarious to imagine that Formula 1 has committed to achieving carbon neutrality by 2030, in other words... that they promise to drastically reduce their carbon pollution and remove any remaining residue from the atmosphere.
Not even "Formula E" is capable of this, since it has already been proven that the process for manufacturing batteries is as polluting, if not more so, than a combustion engine in its entire lifespan.

Anyway, I believe that this is just a way for them to try to show themselves to be more "aware" of the environmental problems of today's world and thus obtain subsidies and more sponsors without anyone continuing to criticize their actions. Just as happens in many countries, F1 will continue to burn fossil fuels and will have to offset carbon emissions by planting trees or financing environmental projects in institutions that can offset their environmental losses.

Money generating more money and attracting media attention... nothing new Cool

They do not really consider battery resources as polluting when they are calculating, that's why. They consider how much they are polluting while racing, that's it, and they say they are going to be net negative when they are racing eventually, which we all know won't happen because of mining, but they will only consider the races, well of course practice and qualifying too, but not the battery manufacturing.

That is something that needs to be change all together in the world, not just for formula, but MANY people are buying electric cars thinking they are doing a good thing for the world and climate, while not really helping with anything, this needs to be a bigger issue and let everyone know how much it hurts the world to build one electric vehicle.

In the end, its still better way forward because if they can make the batteries out of something more renewable or sustainable that doesn't hurt the world, then the whole problem goes away, combustion engines do not have that potential.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 03, 2024, 08:26:50 AM

IF williams still in this path for this lasts race of the season i can see them overpassing HAAS and RB teams at the end of the season, and that it can be a super blow for the other teams and a super bump in energy and money for the Williams team.

I hope to see them with a much better car for the next season.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 02, 2024, 05:33:57 PM

I'm not sure about instability.
I think it is the opposite.
Having a Mercedes engine is a good move, they are very stable with no problems and a lot of power.
Even a second hand engine from them will be better than one created by Renault to be honest.

Maybe now we have too many Mercedes engines.

Mercedes engines are use by / will be used by

Mercedes 2030 and beyond probably
McLaren 2030
Aston Martine 2025 -> they will go to Honda
Alpine 2030
Williams 2030

What I mean by instability is not the engine, but from the side of the workers. Regarding the Mercedes engine, we don't need to question its stability anymore, McLaren is one of the proofs of how if a team with an engine from another manufacturer can achieve good performance, even exceeding the team of the engine manufacturer. But this is an internal matter of Alpine whose employees from the engine development side clashed with the decision - but maybe it just takes time for them to adjust to the Mercedes engine.

Quote from: alegotardo on October 03, 2024, 08:25:58 PM

In this regard, it is hilarious to imagine that Formula 1 has committed to achieving carbon neutrality by 2030, in other words... that they promise to drastically reduce their carbon pollution and remove any remaining residue from the atmosphere.
Not even "Formula E" is capable of this, since it has already been proven that the process for manufacturing batteries is as polluting, if not more so, than a combustion engine in its entire lifespan.

Shut that carbon neutrality. I just wish F1 could bring back the V10 and get rid of all the ridiculous rules and make F1 look like Formula E. They should understand that what the F1 audience needs is the sound of the F1 engine, not making it more electric.

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