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This may or may not be a help for Mercedes, Totto loves to talk big but without seeing how they are doing, it makes no sense to calculate how it will be. I also never liked the idea of a big break during summer, I get that it may get too hot but pick places that are not as hot in order to race? In the end, summer is the time when most people go to vacations and a good F1 race to catch up during your vacation could be one of the most fun things ever.

I know it is not as good to watch in place if you are only there to watch the race, but the "feeling" of it, and things you can do, so the whole experience could be something special for many people.
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Aleix makes surprised by this session, Quartararo didn't think that guy will be a strong opponent for this year. Bagnaia is most favorite besides Quartararo but Aleix begins with a good result and confidence. Aleix got 5x podium, with 4x 3rd place winner and 1x 1st champion in Argentine, so no doubt, he was a racer who most competitive for Quartararo. I will not surprised if that guy come to will overtake him.


Aleix's biggest strength this season is his consistency, he is the only one who has scored points in all the races so far and you can see that he deserves to be second in the world championship.



Without his mistake where he thought it was over one lap too early, he would have been even closer to Fabio. Bagnaia had a lot of retirements and now it's going to be like last season where he has to win almost every race until the end.
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Very good and confident race from Bagnaia, he's picking up important points for the championship, I would have thought Aleix would have finished second on the Aprilia, but I think he was still a bit affected by his crash in FP4. This race was very important for the tension in the championship, Aleix is still only about 20 points behind Fabio and Bagnaia only about 50 points behind him, so it could be a three-way fight for the championship. Ducati will be strong again in Austria. There are still 8 races to go
Aleix makes surprised by this session, Quartararo didn't think that guy will be a strong opponent for this year. Bagnaia is most favorite besides Quartararo but Aleix begins with a good result and confidence. Aleix got 5x podium, with 4x 3rd place winner and 1x 1st champion in Argentine, so no doubt, he was a racer who most competitive for Quartararo. I will not surprised if that guy come to will overtake him.
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Very good and confident race from Bagnaia, he's picking up important points for the championship, I would have thought Aleix would have finished second on the Aprilia, but I think he was still a bit affected by his crash in FP4. This race was very important for the tension in the championship, Aleix is still only about 20 points behind Fabio and Bagnaia only about 50 points behind him, so it could be a three-way fight for the championship. Ducati will be strong again in Austria. There are still 8 races to go
To be precise, Aleix Espargaro is 22 points behind the leaders while Fabio Quartararo and Francesco Bagnaia are 49 points behind after winning the race in England two days ago.
And for the impact of the accident experienced by Aleix Espargaro in the FP4 session, I think it's true because after the accident Aleix Espargaro was immediately taken to the check-up to make sure he was okay. But from the information I read on the local media sport.zone_id, it said that Aleix Espargaro's heel had a fracture and I saw a bandage on Aleix Espargaro's leg when he headed to Aprilia's pit.
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Changes to make sure that Mercedes is getting easier results is something that F1 did a lot of times. Remember wing situation RB had? How about "too quick" pit stops that RB had? Basically they are making sure that Mercedes ends up getting a better result every time they can, and this is another year where they are doing it again.

There is no denying the fact that FIA loves Mercedes more than they love any other team, and to anyone who may say that if FIA loved Mercedes so much they wouldn't have given the last championship to Lewis, it was all the guy who did it and got fired right after, so you know how much Mercedes is protected when you see him getting fired that easily for making Mercedes lose.
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Very good and confident race from Bagnaia, he's picking up important points for the championship, I would have thought Aleix would have finished second on the Aprilia, but I think he was still a bit affected by his crash in FP4. This race was very important for the tension in the championship, Aleix is still only about 20 points behind Fabio and Bagnaia only about 50 points behind him, so it could be a three-way fight for the championship. Ducati will be strong again in Austria. There are still 8 races to go
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OK, Toto Wolff spoke.

He said something like, "with the new rules will have fixed the proposing and we will have no more problems".

Be ready Mercedes will dominate the second part of the season, for a never happened change in rules during a season.

This is really bad news for me.  Grin  Because I don't want to see another boring Mercedes domination in the near future. I'm thinking the same for any team on the grid actually. We all must be just wishing to see a solid competition between at least two drivers and teams for the championship. I agree with the people who say that Hamilton deserves his 8th title. But I wouldn't like to see it happening by a boring season. It isn't happening for this season but the next one can be really interesting.
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I thought today to be a boring Sunday until end of August when F1 will be back.I completely forgot that luckily there are MotoGP races,I think I will not miss the next one,it has been a long time I don't follow MotoGP because for me these new names that are the riders of the moment do not produce the same level of entertainment that produced Rossi and company when MotoGP were at the highest level of action,overtaking and entertainment.
In yesterday's MotoGP race, there was also overtaking carried out by several riders such as Alex Rins, Maverick Vinales, and also Pecco Bagnaia.
But for the level of entertaining or not a sport in the form of racing, it really depends on the judgment of each person although I also agree that during Rossi and his other colleagues it was a very entertaining time for everyone when there was a race going on.

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Silverstone is not a good track for MotoGP I think as it is more suitable for F1 races,Assen is the university of MotoGP as they say,that track is one of the best if not the best of all the calendar.
Completely agree with what you said because the Silverstone track was first used by MotoGP in 2010 because before that the MotoGP race in England took place at the Donington Park track which I think is still more suitable for MotoGP until now.
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OK, Toto Wolff spoke.

He said something like, "with the new rules will have fixed the proposing and we will have no more problems".

Be ready Mercedes will dominate the second part of the season, for a never happened change in rules during a season.
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What a fantastic day for Pecco Bagnaia at the Silverstone MotoGp race today. He was very consistent in today's race and also served every available duel including with Maverick Vinales when the race entered the final laps. And it is a very unfortunate thing for Fabio Quartararo because he had to follow the Long Lap Penalty penalty and also had to settle for finishing eighth after the race was over. Alex Rins from Suzuki also couldn't do much after leading the race for a few laps to be overtaken by the other Ducati riders and he was only able to finish the race in seventh place.

I thought today to be a boring Sunday until end of August when F1 will be back.I completely forgot that luckily there are MotoGP races,I think I will not miss the next one,it has been a long time I don't follow MotoGP because for me these new names that are the riders of the moment do not produce the same level of entertainment that produced Rossi and company when MotoGP were at the highest level of action,overtaking and entertainment.

Silverstone is not a good track for MotoGP I think as it is more suitable for F1 races,Assen is the university of MotoGP as they say,that track is one of the best if not the best of all the calendar.
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Ricciardo had lot of potential when he was in Red Bull and it looked like only matter of time when he will become champion. Until Verstappen didn't appeared. Daniel didn't wanted to be No. 2 driver and made step back by joining Renault. Years in Renault weren't good. Joining Mclaren looked like step forward, but so far his performance there was one big disappointed. It's sad, Daniel is my favourite person on the grid, but now he is more like a great guy, rather than good driver.
It wasn't exactly his fault at red bull neither. He was there with an aggressive driver who didn't like to be second guessed by his teammate, you are number 2 and you have to be like that, and when Verstappen was so young, he acted as the first driver right away which he shouldn't have.

When you are like 17-18 years old, you let Daniel to be the number one for a while and then let Verstappen grow into his shoes. But both Verstappen declined that and wanted to be best right away, and also Red Bull gave him the greenlight to be the number one when he was just a kid who couldn't get a license yet. So all in all Daniel was unlucky there, but rest was a bit of a tough situation.
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What a fantastic day for Pecco Bagnaia at the Silverstone MotoGp race today. He was very consistent in today's race and also served every available duel including with Maverick Vinales when the race entered the final laps. And it is a very unfortunate thing for Fabio Quartararo because he had to follow the Long Lap Penalty penalty and also had to settle for finishing eighth after the race was over. Alex Rins from Suzuki also couldn't do much after leading the race for a few laps to be overtaken by the other Ducati riders and he was only able to finish the race in seventh place.
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Daniel is kicked off Mclaren by 2023, Piastri is taking his position. Riccardio has been an amazing racer all his career, amazing entertainer and he raced very well until he came to Mclaren which didn't really worked out for him to be fair, he was always outpaced by his teammate, but I do not know how long will Mclaren let Lando Norris take up that space neither, dude never won a single race so far, not saying that he should have been a title winner or something, but not a single win? Really?

Their car is good enough to have at least one win so far, dude is just straight up not amazing. Piastri there means that they could have a young gun who could be the next big thing for them.
Ricciardo had lot of potential when he was in Red Bull and it looked like only matter of time when he will become champion. Until Verstappen didn't appeared. Daniel didn't wanted to be No. 2 driver and made step back by joining Renault. Years in Renault weren't good. Joining Mclaren looked like step forward, but so far his performance there was one big disappointed. It's sad, Daniel is my favourite person on the grid, but now he is more like a great guy, rather than good driver.
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We are weeks away from the next race which is in Spa. This track is among my favourites first of all. Verstappen is the last winner of this Grand Prix and there isn't any dominance of any driver here in the recent seasons. However Verstappen can continue his streak as Red Bull's car is still very strong. I will be curious about what Leclerc will do as well because he might be the only driver who can stop Verstappen now. He has had serious problems because of Ferrari's strategies so far but hopefully he won't experience this here again.

Yea and yet teams don't know if the regulation will change or not, it is probable but nothing official yet..

This is a joke.
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By the way the Spa GP is under the threat of being removed from the calendar by next season also. At least there have been some rumours regarding that. To tell the truth I would rather seeing the track being kept in the calendar. Because I believe that it is still one of the very special tracks in F1. There are some other boring tracks already that should be thought of for that first. For example the Monaco GP is one of the most boring races as it is nearly impossible to overtake drivers there.
The amount of money that goes into this sport is just not making any sense right now. I mean they are not making that much back, but they are spending so much. How could we say that Haas could continue to afford this for example, like let's assume Aston Martin puts some money from their factory car profits, but what could Haas do? If teams keep on making a loss then it will continue to be like this. Same goes for tracks, F1 wants a lot of money from tracks, and tracks can't pay that much and make it back, hence why it becomes a trouble.

I know for a fact that it can't be a big deal like this for a long time, we need to find a way to make sure all tracks are free, and we do not get "Saudi Arabia paid a ton, so now all the others have to as well" situation.
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We are weeks away from the next race which is in Spa. This track is among my favourites first of all. Verstappen is the last winner of this Grand Prix and there isn't any dominance of any driver here in the recent seasons. However Verstappen can continue his streak as Red Bull's car is still very strong. I will be curious about what Leclerc will do as well because he might be the only driver who can stop Verstappen now. He has had serious problems because of Ferrari's strategies so far but hopefully he won't experience this here again.
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Finally today Johann Zarco was able to get the best time (1:57.767) in today's Silverstone MotoGP qualifying and that was also a New All Time Lap Record and placed him as the Position Pole for the Silverstone MotoGP race tomorrow. Congratulations to Johann Zarco today for getting to the front of the grid although I doubt for you in terms of winning the race tomorrow.
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By the way the Spa GP is under the threat of being removed from the calendar by next season also. At least there have been some rumours regarding that. To tell the truth I would rather seeing the track being kept in the calendar. Because I believe that it is still one of the very special tracks in F1. There are some other boring tracks already that should be thought of for that first. For example the Monaco GP is one of the most boring races as it is nearly impossible to overtake drivers there.
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we are getting more rumors about the change from SPA.

FOR no reason, they are talking about increasing the high of the cars by about 6 millimeters, to reduce the porposing.

But this is BS, some cars like RBR have fewer problems because they worked better, so why will they need to be penalized because some other team's car sucks?


With the new regulation according to the simulations, the car that will earn the most is Mercedes and they will recover 3/10 over RBR and Ferrari, and they may be the new fastest car in the circus...

What a joke.

A complete joke for real if these come into place.Why the FIA seem to over love them in particular I don't know,nevertheless the problem is that their drivers are far behind in points and they pose no threat for this F1 season as nor Hamilton and nor Russell can win it.Seeing from this point of view it can be somewhat entertaining to see Mercedes drivers winning races,in fact Hamilton told in the team radio in Hungary that if he was not starting 7th then most probably they would have been fighting for the win.

In SPA I hope to see a normal race this year and not just 2 laps like last season.
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Jorge Lorenzo is still the record holder champion in a row Silverstone circuit 2011,2012 and 2013, and so far not yet a racer who can break his domination. the last racer is Quartararo in 2021, but for this year, can he try to win in a row? because bad weather is always an obstacle in the Silverstone circuit, Quartararo always has a problem with a rainy and wet track, so when this happens, I believe we can get a new winner, and he can't still break Jorge Lorenzo's domination.
There seems to be a bit of confusion over the data you say. While the retired Jorge Lorenzo has won back-to-back wins at Silverstone since the circuit was used by MotoGP in 2010, Jorge Lorenzo has only won successively in 2012 and 2013, meaning Jorge Lorenzo has only won twice in a row. of the three wins he had at Silverstone. Meanwhile, the winner of the MotoGP Race in 2011 was Casey Stoner, who at that time was in the Repsol Honda team.
I say this because I refer to the data attached to the motorplus-online.com website.

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