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I'm glad to hear about that. They still have two weeks ahead of them for the next race. Hopefully this is enough time for Ferrari to fix their problems. Things are much more difficult for Leclerc about the championship maybe but Ferrari still have a significant chance to win the constructor's championship. They had better work things out quick because of that. If Ferrari prepare a better car for the Spa Grand Prix then I will start to favour Leclerc to win that race.

I don't know how it works with the "safety excuse"
Normally in the summer break, teams must stop their work, they can't touch the cars nor work on upgrades.

It may exist a special rule and permission when they need to work for "safety manners" but I really don't know.


For sure they will be able to get a new engine without penalty but I don't know if it will come on next GP or later during the season.
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Ferrari maybe found the problem with their engine.

It would be the drive shaft. They are already working on it and will be able to solve the problem by changing the engine for free as it will fall into the category "change for safety reasons"

I'm glad to hear about that. They still have two weeks ahead of them for the next race. Hopefully this is enough time for Ferrari to fix their problems. Things are much more difficult for Leclerc about the championship maybe but Ferrari still have a significant chance to win the constructor's championship. They had better work things out quick because of that. If Ferrari prepare a better car for the Spa Grand Prix then I will start to favour Leclerc to win that race.
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I also see so, the last 2 decades has led no way past a Japanese manufacturer, somehow something has gone wrong, the first problems there were since the unit electronics, they were in their own electronics development, they were leaders, in the unit electronics have all the same material and it seems that the European manufacturers can handle it better, maybe it is an advantage that Magneti Marelli is an Italian manufacturer?
Yeah, it's very possible that the Magneti Marelli electronic device is from an Italian manufacturer. Because as I read on wikipedia, Magneti Marelli is an Italian company that is currently actively developing and producing high-tech systems, modules, and components for use in the automotive industry.
So it is very clear in this case that motorcycle manufacturers from Italy are currently benefiting from the use of the Magneti Marelli electronic device in MotoGP.
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Steiner, the boss of Hass confirmed that he will not sell the club, we got several rumors during this year about it.

(This is a good news for Ferrari, they can continue to test parts on Haas)
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We are exactly two weeks away from the next race in F1 which is the Spa GP. This is one of the tracks I love in F1 honestly. There have been some suggestions to change the track a little to make it safer for the drivers but I don't know if this will be happening. I just hope that it doesn't become one of the tracks that are removed from the calendar for good. It is really difficult to predict who can win the race now as there have been many different drivers winning this race. Normally it would be Verstappen or Leclerc now. I think Verstappen might be one step ahead considering the recent performances.
They are looking to diversify the F1 circuits to better! between continents, and I really think this is necessary and an excellent decision.
However, I don't believe that the Spa GP will be eliminated from the F1 calendar as this is one of the historic and great circuits like Monza, Silverstone and Monaco, for example.

I think that in fact every circuit should be someone's favorite, whether because of the complexity that requires skill from the drivers, narrow and exciting tracks or those that have a lot of fast lanes, but F1 needs to keep innovating and this change is natural and necessary.
It's obvious that some places are F1 history, like monaco as the most famous one. It's a boring race, and it doesn't give you that much of a racing fun, maybe there are some issues like Ferrari had double stack by mistake which impacts the results, but at the end of the day it's a boring race most of the time.

Even with that in mind, I can say that they are not going to remove it that easily. But we had a lot of historical ones before and yet we saw those tracks gets removed anyway, places that had races for over a decade and then got removed. Hence, I am not sure if all will stay forever, we could see it change, plus there are new tracks built constantly, eventually there could be replacements for sure.
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If you look at the temporary standings in MotoGP this season. I think the European manufacturers are much better and consistent in developing everything for their racing bikes than the Japanese manufacturers at the moment. Because only the Yamaha factory is seen in the MotoGP standings and also in every race that has taken place this season. This makes me feel a little surprised to other Japanese manufacturers why this is so, even though in the previous season several other Japanese manufacturers were also very visible and sharp.

I also see so, the last 2 decades has led no way past a Japanese manufacturer, somehow something has gone wrong, the first problems there were since the unit electronics, they were in their own electronics development, they were leaders, in the unit electronics have all the same material and it seems that the European manufacturers can handle it better, maybe it is an advantage that Magneti Marelli is an Italian manufacturer?
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If you look at the temporary standings in MotoGP this season. I think the European manufacturers are much better and consistent in developing everything for their racing bikes than the Japanese manufacturers at the moment. Because only the Yamaha factory is seen in the MotoGP standings and also in every race that has taken place this season. This makes me feel a little surprised to other Japanese manufacturers why this is so, even though in the previous season several other Japanese manufacturers were also very visible and sharp.
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We are exactly two weeks away from the next race in F1 which is the Spa GP. This is one of the tracks I love in F1 honestly. There have been some suggestions to change the track a little to make it safer for the drivers but I don't know if this will be happening. I just hope that it doesn't become one of the tracks that are removed from the calendar for good. It is really difficult to predict who can win the race now as there have been many different drivers winning this race. Normally it would be Verstappen or Leclerc now. I think Verstappen might be one step ahead considering the recent performances.

They are looking to diversify the F1 circuits to better! between continents, and I really think this is necessary and an excellent decision.
However, I don't believe that the Spa GP will be eliminated from the F1 calendar as this is one of the historic and great circuits like Monza, Silverstone and Monaco, for example.

I think that in fact every circuit should be someone's favorite, whether because of the complexity that requires skill from the drivers, narrow and exciting tracks or those that have a lot of fast lanes, but F1 needs to keep innovating and this change is natural and necessary.
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Ferrari maybe found the problem with their engine.

It would be the drive shaft. They are already working on it and will be able to solve the problem by changing the engine for free as it will fall into the category "change for safety reasons"
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We are exactly two weeks away from the next race in F1 which is the Spa GP. This is one of the tracks I love in F1 honestly. There have been some suggestions to change the track a little to make it safer for the drivers but I don't know if this will be happening. I just hope that it doesn't become one of the tracks that are removed from the calendar for good. It is really difficult to predict who can win the race now as there have been many different drivers winning this race. Normally it would be Verstappen or Leclerc now. I think Verstappen might be one step ahead considering the recent performances.
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As you may know, Aston Martin used a new "clever back wing" in the last GP.

The other top team instead of complaining against the FIA for the use of the new wing, will probably copy the wing and use themself probably after the break.

So that is why they were in the points after many races not being there in these last race if I remember correctly.The funny thing is no one said a damn thing or complaint against such action most probably because it is the Aston Martin team which is no real threat to any leading team so that is the reason why.I also think that the other teams may copy it but most probably after checking the Aston Martin behavior for one or 2 more races so they can be sure that it will bring them benefits and not downgrade.
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Beside winning races he also need that Quartararo to not do so well and checking his consistency this is highly unlikely.From a fans point of view the fight for the title should be better than this but we are seeing the same situation in F1 also where a lot of errors and crashes are costing the Ferraris and their drivers to be much behind in points compared to their competition which is Redbull.
Quartararo will try to remain consistent for the remainder of the season with his M1-2022 bike, because Quartararo knows that his bike's power is still not matched by Ducati's and other manufacturers' bikes. So he will try to get more points in each race on the condition that he must always be able to finish the race on the podium.

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Misano is one of the best and technical tracks and so is also Austria for MotoGP so it would be interesting to see how these two races will unfold.
Let's wait together. because usually the Austrian MotoGP and Misano have always presented very exciting and interesting spectacles in previous years, but I don't know if this year there will also be more exciting and interesting races.
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Engine regulations for 2026 have come to an end. Porsche and Audi have long shown interest in getting into Formula 1. However, there is nothing official. Both of these brands may be waiting for the finalization of the engine arrangement to announce their entry into the sport. The new engines are produced at the request of these two manufacturers. The 1.6L V6 turbo engine will be continued but the MGU-K unit will be preferred instead of the MGU-H power unit. It is aimed to obtain more power from the engine, reduce costs and use sustainable fuels. Competition is expected to increase but it is making the sport far from organic. Honestly, I miss the 90's.
I do not remember the 90's to be fair. But if it means that Audi and Porsche will come then I am fine with these regulations. I always said that indycar is not getting as many views as F1 because they are using the same cars for everyone, which makes all cars the same so one racer that finished last race, could finish first next race and people want to see rivals fighting it out, and if F1 continues down this path the races will be closer like that.

But apparently the teams still find a way, look at how close the races where, and yet the winners are always from the best cars. This is why I do not doubt that teams will find a way to make it work one way or another until that period to get a lot better.
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Aston Martin learns from the best. Grin

Sebastian Vettel inspector is doing his jobs for "Aston Martin", that's would be a different scenario if "Redbull or Mercedes" the team who doing that action. I think this season, not really so much drama between the team.

Due "Redbull" is leading with a huge points comparing to other team, If the situation points like 2021 then complaining to the FIA would be more often.
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Engine regulations for 2026 have come to an end. Porsche and Audi have long shown interest in getting into Formula 1. However, there is nothing official. Both of these brands may be waiting for the finalization of the engine arrangement to announce their entry into the sport. The new engines are produced at the request of these two manufacturers. The 1.6L V6 turbo engine will be continued but the MGU-K unit will be preferred instead of the MGU-H power unit. It is aimed to obtain more power from the engine, reduce costs and use sustainable fuels. Competition is expected to increase but it is making the sport far from organic. Honestly, I miss the 90's.
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There is two very good news in the Austrian MotoGP series. First, Marc Marquez will come to the Honda paddock during the Austria series to provide input to Honda and to get some other updates on Honda. And Marc Marquez will also help the Honda team which is currently in a crisis of victory during the 2022 season.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marc-marquez-to-return-to-motogp-paddock-in-austria-for-honda-progress-update/10351133/

Second. KTM Motorsports Director Pit Beirer will confirm their 2023 rider line-up for the Tech3 KTM Factory Racing team. This of course will be very surprising because I thought that in 2023 there will be no rookie riders for MotoGP.
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/08/09/beirer-confirms-tech3-rider-announcement-due-at-austrian-gp/430971
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As you may know, Aston Martin used a new "clever back wing" in the last GP.

The other top team instead of complaining against the FIA for the use of the new wing, will probably copy the wing and use themself probably after the break.
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Bagnaia had a lot of retirements and now it's going to be like last season where he has to win almost every race until the end.
Well, I think it's true because Bagnaia needs to catch up with Fabio Quartararo in the standings so Bagnaia will have to fight to get a win for the rest of the season in the next few races. And if you look at the two upcoming races, namely at the Red Bull Ring Austria and San Marino Misano, then there is a good chance for Bagnaia in terms of winning the race if he can be very consistent and not crash during the race.

Beside winning races he also need that Quartararo to not do so well and checking his consistency this is highly unlikely.From a fans point of view the fight for the title should be better than this but we are seeing the same situation in F1 also where a lot of errors and crashes are costing the Ferraris and their drivers to be much behind in points compared to their competition which is Redbull.

Misano is one of the best and technical tracks and so is also Austria for MotoGP so it would be interesting to see how these two races will unfold.
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from the remaining series Bagnaia does have a big chance to win several series but it will also be a little difficult for him to be able to catch up to points in the championship standings from Fabio Quartararo because Quartararo's consistency has been very good throughout the season, and this season Bagnaia started the season very badly by losing a lot points for crash.
I think it will be very difficult for Bagnaia to become world champion.
The chances are still there for Bagnaia, so Bagnaia's task now is to try to catch up with Fabio Quartararo points in each race series.
And I see the series remaining in this season is a series that can be very profitable for Ducati and Bagnaia if only he can be very consistent in getting the most points in every race. Although Fabio Quartararo has also been wary of the two riders who are very close to him in the championship standings (Bagnaia and Aleix).
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Bagnaia had a lot of retirements and now it's going to be like last season where he has to win almost every race until the end.
Well, I think it's true because Bagnaia needs to catch up with Fabio Quartararo in the standings so Bagnaia will have to fight to get a win for the rest of the season in the next few races. And if you look at the two upcoming races, namely at the Red Bull Ring Austria and San Marino Misano, then there is a good chance for Bagnaia in terms of winning the race if he can be very consistent and not crash during the race.
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