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Next of course MotoGP will return to Europe. Next week we will be in Portugal, it looks like Yamaha is strong here, a lot of corners are in Yamaha's favour to win. In 2021 Quartararo won in Portugal, but he was pasted Bagnaia and Mir. I won't guess who the winner is but guessing the Yamaha again, I'm not sure.
The host racer has also won in Portugal, namely Miguel Oliveira with the Satellit KTM motorbike in 2020 and on the podium there is also a Yamaha with the rider Morbidelli.
But at the beginning of last season Fabio Quartararo also won there, which means that the circuit is indeed suitable for Yamaha if the manufacturer can start racing on the front row, because in the second half of last year's season when MotoGP was also held at the same circuit, namely in Portugal, Fabio Quartararo was overwhelmed by all the riders he ended up crashing during the race, so Yamaha would be good there if he started the race in pole position.


Exactly the track was changed because of the accident in 2020 when the motorbikes almost hit Vinales and Rossi. The new layout is only used for the motorbike races, Formula 1 should continue as before. For the Ducatis, the track change is definitely a disadvantage, Yamaha will probably benefit from the change (apart from safety).
I think so too and I also agree more with what you say because before that change in the past, Yamaha did look very difficult there so that until last year it had not tasted a single victory, and maybe it will be different for this year where Yamaha has been able to compete with the changes made to the Austrian straight.
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The Red Bull Ring in Austria has now been completely rebuilt the first straight and should now be safer, whether the new curves are good remains to be seen.
It looks good for safety but it looks easier and better for a bike with great power, maybe Yamaha will suffer at this track. It's still August we're going to see the Austrian MotoGP.
Next of course MotoGP will return to Europe. Next week we will be in Portugal, it looks like Yamaha is strong here, a lot of corners are in Yamaha's favour to win. In 2021 Quartararo won in Portugal, but he was pasted Bagnaia and Mir. I won't guess who the winner is but guessing the Yamaha again, I'm not sure.

Exactly the track was changed because of the accident in 2020 when the motorbikes almost hit Vinales and Rossi. The new layout is only used for the motorbike races, Formula 1 should continue as before. For the Ducatis, the track change is definitely a disadvantage, Yamaha will probably benefit from the change (apart from safety).
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Andrea Dovizioso is not sure that Yamaha will soon make an update to address the problem of the lack of rear tire grip, for the sake of their future.
Maybe he has to think about how to create the winning next after the substitute issue (Jake Dixon). Yamaha wants the winning, and so far Dovizioso has not yet given what the team wants. Only getting 3 points is very bad for racers who have the credibility. But I believe When Yamaha hears what Dovizioso said about rear tire grip, he will have no trouble overcoming the bend as he did on Ducati.
Dovizioso has successfully ridden Ducati for years that is already a change to the Yamaha, completely different driving characteristics and also requires a change in driving style, with the Yamaha you can currently only overtake on the brakes.
He needs time to adjust the situation, His bike is also the same which what Quartararo used, but what is the different the style with each others. We know Quartararo is Senior in Yamaha, his style already integrated for long time. this is different with Dovizioso, he don't have habitual overtake with brake. If he can get over it, I believe he will be a tough competitor Quartararo. He just need a style is the same what he did on Ducati.
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I agree, without the reliability issues, Max would have been second in both races, which means that dude would had 36 points on top of his current 25, which is 61 points, Charles has 71. If you have just 10 points after 3 races, then it looks like it would be decent and not a big problem and too close to call.

This proves that reliability issues is the main thing that separates them. If Red Bull has a few more of these, they will just let go off the season and start working on the next years car for sure, because having zero points in a race means that you shouldn't even raced and all of that money could have gone to winning a title next year.
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The Red Bull Ring in Austria has now been completely rebuilt the first straight and should now be safer, whether the new curves are good remains to be seen.
It looks good for safety but it looks easier and better for a bike with great power, maybe Yamaha will suffer at this track. It's still August we're going to see the Austrian MotoGP.
Next of course MotoGP will return to Europe. Next week we will be in Portugal, it looks like Yamaha is strong here, a lot of corners are in Yamaha's favour to win. In 2021 Quartararo won in Portugal, but he was pasted Bagnaia and Mir. I won't guess who the winner is but guessing the Yamaha again, I'm not sure.
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Ducati CEO Claudio Domenicali revealed why Valentino Rossi had difficulty conquering the Desmosedici GP.

The MotoGP legend failed to find his best form aboard the Desmosedici GP and managed just three podiums, without a win.

At that time, the Ducati was still the most difficult bike to ride, in contrast to today which many riders can ride easily.

"Today's Ducati is very different from the one Vale rode for two years, I think he will be competitive with the 2021 bike.

"We don't regret having raced with him, it's just that at that time we weren't made for each other. It was a very developed bike for Casey Stoner.

"He has a very high performance in his hands, but it is very difficult to get used to a rider who is used to a more balanced behaviour." Source : Motorsport.com / breaking_news_motogp.id
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Am I the only one thinking that Ferrari was going to dominate anyway even if Red Bull didn't have reliability issues?  It seems like the narrative the journalists want to sell us is 'it will close season between Ferrari and Red Bull if not for the reliability issues' when it's pretty obvious Ferrari has the better package.

And that race Verstappen won was situational.  It took two yellow flags to help him close the gap with Leclerc.

No, I think without the reliability issues it's still too close to call. You're right about Verstappen getting lucky with safety cars for that win, but if we ignore that race, then we've had...

Bahrain, where RB qualified right up with the Ferraris, and in the race Verstappen was right up with Leclerc, until the DNF.
Australia, the latest race, where the Ferraris appear to have the advantage and Leclerc was clearly faster than Verstappen.

So as far as I can see, we've only really had Australia where Ferrari look clearly better... which I think is far too early to call it, if we're ignoring reliability. Different tracks will suit different cars, and it may just be that this year Australia is a Ferrari track.

Of course this is just if we're ignoring reliability... if RB have to make some modifications and compromises in order to be more reliable, that will likely slow them down, and hand the advantage to Ferrari.
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Andrea Dovizioso is not sure that Yamaha will soon make an update to address the problem of the lack of rear tire grip, for the sake of their future.
Maybe he has to think about how to create the winning next after the substitute issue (Jake Dixon). Yamaha wants the winning, and so far Dovizioso has not yet given what the team wants. Only getting 3 points is very bad for racers who have the credibility. But I believe When Yamaha hears what Dovizioso said about rear tire grip, he will have no trouble overcoming the bend as he did on Ducati.


Dovizioso has successfully ridden Ducati for years that is already a change to the Yamaha, completely different driving characteristics and also requires a change in driving style, with the Yamaha you can currently only overtake on the brakes.

The Red Bull Ring in Austria has now been completely rebuilt the first straight and should now be safer, whether the new curves are good remains to be seen.



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Andrea Dovizioso is not sure that Yamaha will soon make an update to address the problem of the lack of rear tire grip, for the sake of their future.
Maybe he has to think about how to create the winning next after the substitute issue (Jake Dixon). Yamaha wants the winning, and so far Dovizioso has not yet given what the team wants. Only getting 3 points is very bad for racers who have the credibility. But I believe When Yamaha hears what Dovizioso said about rear tire grip, he will have no trouble overcoming the bend as he did on Ducati.
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Not long ago, Mooney VR46 Racing Team Manager, Pablo Nieto told how he first met Valentino Rossi. "We first met at Jarama, Spain, in 1997. After that, we were able to work well together," said Nieto.

“We were lucky enough to meet in 1997, during the Aprilia scooter presentation at Jarama. At that time, the two of us destroyed four scooters. Since then, we've been together a lot," Nieto said as quoted by El Mundo.

“Rossi started the squad for Moto3 with Vittoriano Guareschi as team manager in 2014. Meanwhile, I became manager of Rossi's Moto3 team in 2015. Many don't know how our partnership started"

“The passion and passion for racing from Valentino Rossi has always been in this team. Our goal is to take the podium this year. At the same time proving to those who think we are just decorations in MotoGP, are wrong," said Pablo Nieto. (Source : Motorsport.com / gpindonesia.id)

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Exactly, that's what I read too. Ferrari is only working on setup and porposing because of the sprint race at Imola due to limited time. According to Binotto there is no time to test new components and understand them because Friday is already the qualifying for the sprint race.

Do Ferrari still have a joker and may still improve the MGU-K?

https://de.motorsport.com/f1/news/warum-ferrari-keine-updates-zum-heimrennen-nach-imola-bringt-22041605/9959481
I've read the same rumor but If I not miss understood it if they do the improvement they will take a penalty.

I'm not sure about it so don't take it as news.

I'm also doubtful if this could cause any penalties for Ferrari, but I think in any case this is a necessary investment, because at a time when Max Verstappen has suffered two retirements in three races, Ferrari needs to deliver a "master stroke". "To the driver who is the reigning world champion, he must be disheartened by the reliability issues he is facing with his power unit, so I believe that Ferrari are doing the right thing to invest in the car if they believe it will be to Verstappen's advantage.
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Exactly, that's what I read too. Ferrari is only working on setup and porposing because of the sprint race at Imola due to limited time. According to Binotto there is no time to test new components and understand them because Friday is already the qualifying for the sprint race.

Do Ferrari still have a joker and may still improve the MGU-K?

https://de.motorsport.com/f1/news/warum-ferrari-keine-updates-zum-heimrennen-nach-imola-bringt-22041605/9959481



I've read the same rumor but If I not miss understood it if they do the improvement they will take a penalty.

I'm not sure about it so don't take it as news.
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Andrea Dovizioso is not sure that Yamaha will soon make an update to address the problem of the lack of rear tire grip, for the sake of their future.

“The work to be done on these aspects, in order to improve grip, will definitely be very complex. It will definitely take time.

"Honestly, I don't believe there will be significant development in the near future to understand the direction of improvement and development. I didn't really expect that. But there will be a meeting soon, so, I will get information.”

Andrea Dovizioso also added, what he can do now is to adapt to the bike as best as possible.

“After all, we have fallen too far behind. Even if we succeed, even if a little, our gap is too big,” said Dovi. Source: Motorsport.com / gpnews.ig

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For Imola, RedBull is rumored to bring a new big update on his suspension.

Ferrari however is rumored to have 0 updates but hard work on proposing.

Ferrari is also rumored to have an engine upgrade to fight the top speed of Redbull with then engine 2, and if nothing happens will be in Barcelona.

Exactly, that's what I read too. Ferrari is only working on setup and porposing because of the sprint race at Imola due to limited time. According to Binotto there is no time to test new components and understand them because Friday is already the qualifying for the sprint race.

Do Ferrari still have a joker and may still improve the MGU-K?

https://de.motorsport.com/f1/news/warum-ferrari-keine-updates-zum-heimrennen-nach-imola-bringt-22041605/9959481



Let's hope that new massive update on the suspension from Redbull makes them somewhat better,at least to the level where the cars be equal in performance and at such scenario only the drivers bravery will decide which one will win the race.As far as I recall didn't Mercedes won a lot of races in their beginning era of winning races because of the better MGU-K or am I mistaken?
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Marc Marquez warns Honda about the performance of the RC213V. He continues to find the weaknesses of the bike used to conquer the 2022 MotoGP.
In the pre-season test, the RC213V was predicted to be able to make them a champion challenger. However, as the competition progressed, their performance slackened.
The six-edition MotoGP champion is still having trouble controlling the bike in the middle of an update. The bigger grip at the back has consequences that make it difficult for Honda riders, including Marquez.

“This bike is the opposite of last year. We have to understand the right path," said the Repsol Honda rider.

"I've already told Honda what needs to be done if we want to be competitive in the next few races. It is true that Pol Espargaro performed well on several tracks.

“Takaaki Nakagami has also performed well on certain circuits. However, we still have some weaknesses.”

After missing the Argentine MotoGP, Marquez forced himself down in Austin, United States. Circuit of The Americas (COTA) is one of his favorite tracks.

Last weekend, he managed to dart from the back and finish to sixth position.

"After trying different things in Austin, I said, 'This is the way' and we have to move forward," he said.

"Now, we have to understand our level on the European circuit. I don't think that we can fight for victory in every race. But it's important to see how weak the bike is at a circuit I'm very familiar with."

Questions about predictions about the next race arose. Will the track in Europe be difficult for Honda or not ? Source: motorsport.com & sport.zone_id
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For Imola, RedBull is rumored to bring a new big update on his suspension.

Ferrari however is rumored to have 0 updates but hard work on proposing.

Ferrari is also rumored to have an engine upgrade to fight the top speed of Redbull with then engine 2, and if nothing happens will be in Barcelona.

Exactly, that's what I read too. Ferrari is only working on setup and porposing because of the sprint race at Imola due to limited time. According to Binotto there is no time to test new components and understand them because Friday is already the qualifying for the sprint race.

Do Ferrari still have a joker and may still improve the MGU-K?

https://de.motorsport.com/f1/news/warum-ferrari-keine-updates-zum-heimrennen-nach-imola-bringt-22041605/9959481

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Manager Fabio Quartararo, Eric Mahe, said that currently only Honda and Ducati were able to fulfill the wishes of the 2021 MotoGP world champion.

"We are not in a hurry. Our job now is to study all the offers and see what the situation is like," said Mahe, some time ago.
Fabio Quartararo added: "I am ready for any offer that gives the best bike to be able to compete for the title."

The racer market for MotoGP 2023 is likely to be started by Fabio Quartararo, one of the riders that teams want the most at the moment. Teams have always been looking for good drivers at a price (read: salary) that they can reach.

The problem is, Quartararo is now not just looking for a manufacturer that is able to provide him with a competitive motorcycle package. The 22-year-old racer also wants a fantastic salary.

As revealed by the Italian media, Corriere dello Sport, Quartararo wants a contract with a double-digit value in other words tens of millions of euros.

Even though the public has always known that the contract with the number zero seven is currently only owned by Marc Marquez in the Honda Racing Corporation (Repsol Honda) factory team. Or, when Ducati “hijacked” Jorge Lorenzo from Yamaha in 2017.

Yamaha itself has said it is ready to meet Quartararo's request. The reason is, only Quartararo is now able to fly the Yamaha flag in MotoGP.
Source : Motorsport.com / breaking_news_motogp.id
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Ferrari certainly has the best package at the moment in terms of performance and reliability, in the corners the Ferrari is very fast and on the straights they have a reliable and strong power unit. RedBull is slightly faster on the straights, which is actually unusual, but the power unit is not reliable enough to always be operated at the limit. If there are more defects, there will soon be a penalty for RedBull.

Mercedes does not yet understand the porposing exactly, but in the last race Hamilton had sensors on the car, which is not usual to understand it better. Will be an exciting season with no advantages for Ferrari.

For Imola, RedBull is rumored to bring a new big update on his suspension.

Ferrari however is rumored to have 0 updates but hard work on proposing.

Ferrari is also rumored to have an engine upgrade to fight the top speed of Redbull with then engine 2, and if nothing happens will be in Barcelona.
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I have heard some news like Ferrari engineers are working on increasing the engine power of their car by 10 hp. Ferrari's car is already the best one in the grid for sure. They are the fastest even though Red Bull are really close to them. And Ferrari still want to do better and dominate the season even more than this. But I'm really contented with seeing them this much powerful also. Because I was bored of seeing Mercedes being dominant most of the time. Ferrari's time has come finally!
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Ferrari certainly has the best package at the moment in terms of performance and reliability, in the corners the Ferrari is very fast and on the straights they have a reliable and strong power unit. RedBull is slightly faster on the straights, which is actually unusual, but the power unit is not reliable enough to always be operated at the limit. If there are more defects, there will soon be a penalty for RedBull.

Mercedes does not yet understand the porposing exactly, but in the last race Hamilton had sensors on the car, which is not usual to understand it better. Will be an exciting season with no advantages for Ferrari.

What makes the big difference between Ferrari and Red Bull at the moment is the fact that Ferrari seems to have absolutely no problems in term of reliability so far, while Verstappen had to stop the car before the end of the race two times already now. In terms of pace i think Red Bull and Ferrari are pretty close to each other at the moment, maybe also a little advantage for Ferrari here, but on specific tracks where the top speed matters more Red Bull could be in front.
Looking at the current standings now Hamilton is in front of Verstappen because the mercedes seems to be reliable at least. Red Bull really needs to fix this problems very soon or they won't win a championship this year.
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