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Looking at the comparison of these two riders in terms of racing, I think they were both great at their time and also able to set new records that had never existed in the past although there are also many old records of Valentino Rossi that new riders still haven't been able to break. at this time, for example like;
  • World champion with satellite team
  • World champion with two different manufacturers
  • World Champion 5 times in a row
  • Capable of a career for 25 years in the Grand Prix
  • Retired from Grand Prix at 42 years old
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Small new for 2026.

As you may know, engines are locked until 2026 but they already talked about it.

The will improve in 4 years giving more power to the Hybrid part.


Redbull now wants to ask FIA to be able to spend more money than the others team because they consider themself a new manufacturer of engines.  Roll Eyes

They are capable of doing that, but I doubt that the engines that they'll make will not have any DNA of Honda engines which they used for a long time. I'm excited with this new season for Ferrari, Merc, and Red Bull. Ferrari and Red Bull so far has been contending for the best car, with Mercedes having some issues lately. Perhaps Red Bull spending more and focusing on creating their new engines will pay off, but Ferrari is still doing their own magic too with their cars.
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Redbull now wants to ask FIA to be able to spend more money than the others team because they consider themself a new manufacturer of engines.  Roll Eyes

Really? That doesn't sound like Red Bull at all!  Roll Eyes




Last year, since the battle for the champion went to the last race, both Mercedes and red bull kept on spending money on their last years car to win it all, which worked for both of them since one of them got driver championship and the other got the constructors, but to be fair that resulted with both teams being worse than Ferrari this year because of it.

Yeah, one won the constructors title and one was given the drivers title. Cheesy

I think Ferrari's focus on this year's car has definitely paid off. But IIRC, although Merc worked on the 2021 car throughout 2021, I think the previous year they stopped development mid-way through the season so they could work on the 2022 car, even though at that time it was a year and a half away. Mercedes have been quite poor really, if they were planning this car from a long way out, and failed to foresee the issues with it.
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It's a huge blow for Red Bull and Verstappen.  But it also doesn't mean that Ferrari doesn't have the fastest package of the season as of now.  Obv their power unit has been way better than last year.  Check out the other cars using a Ferrari power unit.  They're also having better results.

Red Bull would need to get lucky and have the Ferraris finishing a couple of races without points to close the gap.  But seeing how consistent Leclerc is, I pretty much doubt it's happening.
It is both about the car being faster and the engine being better, but it is also about how they handled the new regulations as well. You have to realize that this year is a new year and with a new car everyone had equal chances and Ferrari knew this and put most of their money into this year's car.

Last year, since the battle for the champion went to the last race, both Mercedes and red bull kept on spending money on their last years car to win it all, which worked for both of them since one of them got driver championship and the other got the constructors, but to be fair that resulted with both teams being worse than Ferrari this year because of it.
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Small new for 2026.

As you may know, engines are locked until 2026 but they already talked about it.

The will improve in 4 years giving more power to the Hybrid part.


Redbull now wants to ask FIA to be able to spend more money than the others team because they consider themself a new manufacturer of engines.  Roll Eyes
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Top Speed MotoGP America 2022

Enea Bastianini was able to become a racer with the highest top speed, even though he went down with a motorbike last season, the Ducati Desmosedici GP21.

Yamaha racer, Fabio Quartararo, only recorded a top speed of 337.5 km/hour. When compared with Bastianini, Quartararo's top speed lags by more than 13 km/hour.

Interestingly, even though in terms of top speed, he is still far behind, Fabio Quartararo is still able to finish in seventh place or the best among Yamaha riders in the 2022 American MotoGP. (Source: gpzone.id)
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LeClerc won and domintated the whole GP.
It was not even close for Verstappen who got even problems later and retired.

Sad result for Sainz too.
Leclerc was leading all the laps of the race, had the fastest lap and won the grand prix.  That's some sort of grand slam and it hasn't happened in a while.  I'm not sure when the last it has happened.  Hamilton?  Vettel? 

But yeah, I could see Ferrari winning the constructor's championship and Leclerc with the driver's championship..  And I don't know what's with F1 and hating the dominating team but I kinda feel like rooting for Hamilton now.  Lolol.  Cheesy


Charles definitely looks like he is dominating this season but mainly because Max has failed to finish 2 races so far, and none of them his fault neither, car reliability is a serious question at this point. I am sure that they will start doing better but they are basically screwed right now mainly because of these two races already, and to imagine more in the coming weeks is quite scary.

Yup exactly.  It's a huge blow for Red Bull and Verstappen.  But it also doesn't mean that Ferrari doesn't have the fastest package of the season as of now.  Obv their power unit has been way better than last year.  Check out the other cars using a Ferrari power unit.  They're also having better results.

Red Bull would need to get lucky and have the Ferraris finishing a couple of races without points to close the gap.  But seeing how consistent Leclerc is, I pretty much doubt it's happening.
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Charles definitely looks like he is dominating this season but mainly because Max has failed to finish 2 races so far, and none of them his fault neither, car reliability is a serious question at this point. I am sure that they will start doing better but they are basically screwed right now mainly because of these two races already, and to imagine more in the coming weeks is quite scary.

Yep, this problem is made worse when it's always the same people at the front. If Leclerc and Verstappen were vying for places with other drivers, and could be expected to finish anywhere in the top 5, it wouldn't be so much of an issue. But the fact is, RB and Ferrari are a lot faster than other cars, and the #2 drivers for RB and Ferrari aren't as good... so in most races you'd expect Leclerc and Verstappen to always be the front 2, which means if Max retires and Charles wins, it then takes 4 race victories for Max to make up the deficit, because Charles will still be getting 2nd and 18pts each time.
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I think Miller will not be completely satisfied either, at the beginning it looked like Miller could fight for the win, I think Miller had problems with the tyre in the race, the Ducati factory team still has a lot of work to do with the set-up, it seems the Ducati customer teams have the set-up better under control than the factory team with the 2022 bike.
It is very possible because I saw the Pramac Racing Ducati team also having problems when the race was only a few laps away, even though at the beginning of the race the Pramac Racing Ducati team was also good with rider Jorge Martin who also used the GP22 motorcycle spec, and almost the same thing happened to two factory Ducati riders both of whom were already starting to weaken as the race was almost over and I think that has something to do with the worn out tires problem.
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Jack Miller finished the American GP with mixed feelings. This Ducati Team racer led the race for a long time before finally having to settle for finishing third.

"I can no longer count the number of times he overtook me in the last moments of the race and when I saw him slip, I knew very well how well he could manage the tires," Miller said of Bastianini.

Jack Miller, starting from the second grid, did a great job, starting the race and quickly leading 15 laps without threat. But once again, the brilliant management of La Bestia bears positive results.

He had enough resources, especially in terms of tires, to improve his performance in the final laps, when the 24-year-old Rimini rider felt threatened by Alex Rins (Suzuki Ecstar) in P3.

"I did my best to stay away, but they (Bastianini and Rins) pressed intensely. I made a few little mistakes, I was 0.7 or 0.8 seconds ahead, then I missed Turn 11 a little bit once or twice and Enea caught me on the straights," Miller said. (Source: Motorsport.com/gpzone.id)

I think Miller will not be completely satisfied either, at the beginning it looked like Miller could fight for the win, I think Miller had problems with the tyre in the race, the Ducati factory team still has a lot of work to do with the set-up, it seems the Ducati customer teams have the set-up better under control than the factory team with the 2022 bike.
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Jack Miller finished the American GP with mixed feelings. This Ducati Team racer led the race for a long time before finally having to settle for finishing third.

"I can no longer count the number of times he overtook me in the last moments of the race and when I saw him slip, I knew very well how well he could manage the tires," Miller said of Bastianini.

Jack Miller, starting from the second grid, did a great job, starting the race and quickly leading 15 laps without threat. But once again, the brilliant management of La Bestia bears positive results.

He had enough resources, especially in terms of tires, to improve his performance in the final laps, when the 24-year-old Rimini rider felt threatened by Alex Rins (Suzuki Ecstar) in P3.

"I did my best to stay away, but they (Bastianini and Rins) pressed intensely. I made a few little mistakes, I was 0.7 or 0.8 seconds ahead, then I missed Turn 11 a little bit once or twice and Enea caught me on the straights," Miller said. (Source: Motorsport.com/gpzone.id)
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LeClerc won and domintated the whole GP.
It was not even close for Verstappen who got even problems later and retired.

Sad result for Sainz too.
Leclerc was leading all the laps of the race, had the fastest lap and won the grand prix.  That's some sort of grand slam and it hasn't happened in a while.  I'm not sure when the last it has happened.  Hamilton?  Vettel? 

But yeah, I could see Ferrari winning the constructor's championship and Leclerc with the driver's championship..  And I don't know what's with F1 and hating the dominating team but I kinda feel like rooting for Hamilton now.  Lolol.  Cheesy
I am sure it shouldn't be that far back, that sounds like something one racer can done at least once a season. Max had that Austrian race he dominated but can't remember if he had the fastest lap, with how things looked there, I am sure someone else may have stolen it since it was obvious they couldn't win.

Charles definitely looks like he is dominating this season but mainly because Max has failed to finish 2 races so far, and none of them his fault neither, car reliability is a serious question at this point. I am sure that they will start doing better but they are basically screwed right now mainly because of these two races already, and to imagine more in the coming weeks is quite scary.
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I kinda feel like rooting for Hamilton now.  Lolol.  Cheesy

I never thought I'd see you write that!

My favourite Hamilton races are the ones where it's either a masterclass in the wet, or else where he starts halfway down the field or even at the back, and then fights his way through the pack... I think we'll see a lot of him fighting through the pack this season, which I'm quite looking forward to.

As for how this last weekend went for everyone else, I think we all knew Leclerc was good, but the gulf between him and Sainz has surprised me a bit (although I know Sainz has had some bad luck). And I'm happy and surprised at the pace Alonso was showing before, again, some bad luck. The Red Bull reliability issue that looked resolved in the last race now seems more of an ongoing concern. And I still think Vettel is overrated Cheesy.
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Enea Bastianini opens the opportunity to move to another MotoGP team in the future. However, his statement was not in accordance with the wishes of the manager, Carlo Pernat. The talent of the 2020 Moto2 world champion has attracted the attention of several teams. Some have contacted their manager, Carlo Pernat, but have been turned down for different reasons.

"Bastianini could be a good catch for Honda, but he's not leaving. He already had a bad experience in Moto3 with the Monlau team, where he risks not being able to be a racer anymore," said the old man who had worked with Valentino Rossi to Sky Sport.

“The Spaniards can't control the Italians. Enea must stay in the Italian team and be managed by the Italians”
Meanwhile, Bastianini has a different opinion with Pernat. The 24-year racer hinted that he could jump into a different boat.
However, every important decision must be taken in a calm condition and consider many factors. That's not a priority right now.

"In fact, the Spaniards made me grow a lot more. At the Monlau team, we actually built a beautiful relationship,” he explains.
"I don't know if Honda had an eye on me, but I didn't suddenly. I'm not excluding anything at this point.

“Moving to the factory Ducati team? For now, it's not something I'm looking forward to. Right now, I'm only thinking about doing a good race. At some point, I will make a decision about the future.

"Of course, there are always offers, but I don't want to rush into a decision. Now, I'm still doing well in the Gresini Racing team. I want to concentrate on the race. I'll talk about the rest later." (Source : Motorsport.com and breaking_news_motogp.id)

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LeClerc won and domintated the whole GP.
It was not even close for Verstappen who got even problems later and retired.

Sad result for Sainz too.



Leclerc was leading all the laps of the race, had the fastest lap and won the grand prix.  That's some sort of grand slam and it hasn't happened in a while.  I'm not sure when the last it has happened.  Hamilton?  Vettel? 

But yeah, I could see Ferrari winning the constructor's championship and Leclerc with the driver's championship..  And I don't know what's with F1 and hating the dominating team but I kinda feel like rooting for Hamilton now.  Lolol.  Cheesy
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LeClerc won and domintated the whole GP.
It was not even close for Verstappen who got even problems later and retired.

Sad result for Sainz too.


So the drivers of the young season are simply Leclerc and Verstappen, in Australia Verstappen could not have challenged Leclerc for the victory but he would have finished second. RedBull really has a reliability problem at the moment, if it continues like this (there are only 4 engines available for the whole season without penalty) RedBull will lose the world championship chances with the reliability. I have the feeling that RedBull pushes their car to the limit more than Ferrari?
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I think there is a valid reason for such happenings at Redbull,they are trying to squeeze the maximum power from their car and engine,surely they have not found this perfect spot and they are fighting hard to get it by changing a lot of things mostly like many other cars are doing.If they don't try different setups they stand 0 chances against Ferrari so they are forced to try this and being aware of the risks involved,there is no other way to win races during this year for them.

I don't think it's because they're pushing the car to the limit to catch Ferrari. They've had these issues since the first race, and no-one knew at that point which car was fastest. In fact Australia is the first race so far where Ferrari had a clear pace advantage. Plus there's the fact that the Alpha Tauri drivers (with the same powertrain) have been plagued by reliability issues, too. It looks like a genuine issue (or issues) with the car, not just a result of pushing too hard).
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After successfully winning the race at the circuit of the Americas, now Enea Bastianini is again leading the temporary standings with Alex Rins and also Aleix Espargaro. And what impressed me when I was racing at the Circuit of the Americas was Suzuki, especially Alex Rins who was able to overtake several Ducati motorcycles at certain corners, even though he himself started the race from the 7th Grid but was able to finish in 2nd place after fighting back. with several Ducati motorcycles in front of him.
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Red Bull reliability issue is still going on and there is really a big problem about it for sure. I mean imagine a scenario where both Merecedes drivers are still higher up than Max right now, I get that Ferrari is higher because they are the best this year but it is 100% clear that Mercedes is worse this year and yet even with that in mind they are both higher because Max lost out on 2 races and got zero points.

The difference is 46 points right now, and even if Max ends up winning the next 4 races, if Leclerc is second in those games, then we will end up not getting Max to the top with that. This shows that finishing the race is more important than being first sometimes, Hamilton had like one podium total right? Or whatever he has done so far, not great, and yet even with that he is still higher only because he managed to finish those races.

I think there is a valid reason for such happenings at Redbull,they are trying to squeeze the maximum power from their car and engine,surely they have not found this perfect spot and they are fighting hard to get it by changing a lot of things mostly like many other cars are doing.If they don't try different setups they stand 0 chances against Ferrari so they are forced to try this and being aware of the risks involved,there is no other way to win races during this year for them.
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Was fine if Hamilton lost the title in fair conditions.
Doing what they did, putting Verstappen with fresh tires behind Hamilton without any reason is like robbing the title to Hamilton.

Exactly, which is why Masi's job was untenable. He broke the rules twice in order to engineer that situation. Max didn't win the title, it was given to him.



You are still salty because of the last grand prix of the 2021 season i guess. I don't really think that this as Red Bull's fault though as the decision were made by someone else, but i understand that  you are still angry about that if you are a Hamilton and/or a Mercedes fan. Regarding this season so far: Despite Mercedes being so far away in terms of performance level of the cars in comparison to Red Bull and Ferrari i think that especially Hamilton collected a good amount of points so far for the driver championship. Looking at the standings after 3 races he even is 3 points ahead of Verstappen at the moment, which is more than Mercedes deserves at the moment.

I'd argue the opposite, that any F1 fan who is impartial would be angry about the last race of last season. If you're happy with the way that race turned out, then you're biased.
And this post underlines my point. You say Mercedes this year have more points than they deserve, "especially Hamilton"... despite Russell driving a Merc and having more points than Hamilton? Why not "especially Russell"?

Mercedes look to have the third fastest car. The Red Bull is considerably faster, but less reliable. Which suggests that the Red Bull will run ahead of the Merc in a race, but sometimes retire and get zero points... which is exactly what has happened. I don't think Merc have been lucky or RB unlucky, it's just a reflection of the state of their cars.





As for the season as a whole, I think it's looking quite exciting... I like Leclerc and think he definitely has the makings of a champion. It's a bit of a concern at that last race that maybe Ferrari are starting to edge too far ahead, and I hope RB can pull it back. I kind of like Mercedes where they are, it's always fun watching Hamilton battling for places. And I like it that other cars seemingly come from nowhere to challenge near the front, particularly Alonso in that last race (and qualifying), he was really unlucky and on another day could quite easily have finished second here.

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