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Remember we will have a sprint race this week so the official qualify will be this evening CET time.

It will start in 5 minutes.

The results of free practice 1...

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.050s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Red Bull Racing   1m09.417s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Red Bull Racing   1m09.492s
4   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.567s
5   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m09.880s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m10.124s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m10.142s
8   Esteban Ocon   FRA   Alpine F1 Team   1m10.145s
9   Fernando Alonso   CHI   Alpine F1 Team   1m10.201s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m10.352s
11   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m10.374s
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m10.413s
13   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m10.443s
14   Antonio Giovinazzi   GBR   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m10.587s
15   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m10.610s
16   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m10.885s
17   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m10.902s
18   George Russell   ISR   Williams Racing   1m10.938s
19   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m10.990s
20   Nikita Mazepin   RUS   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m11.342s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/991805/1/f1-2021-sao-paulo-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1

Has Adrian Newey really found the right tweak and set up for their cars for Verstappen to deserve to be lined at 1.56 to win the Brazilian GP?  Seems like an over adjustment to me.  Hamilton is lined at 3.30?  Are the Merc cars really that slower compared to RBR?  I feel like there’s some fight left in Hamilton in these last couple of races.

Marquez is also missing in the last race due to his eye injury, Honda has not re-nominated a rider and Bradl will not start instead of Marquez. Possibly also a logical decision because Honda can no longer play a decisive role in the constructors' World Championship and important tests are due next week.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/motogp/news-274304-motogp-valencia-stefan-bradl-ersetzt-marc-marquez-nicht/

Yes it is Rossi's last official race in MotoGP, unfortunately he will not reach his 200th podium, it would almost take a miracle this weekend.

This week MotoGP Valencia will be held, as the closing series for MotoGP 2021. Because the MotoGP world champion in 2021 has been locked by Quartararo (Yamaha) I think Nothing is interesting in this series, except Rossi last race and Rossi's farewell moment.
This it's a special day for him and the fans, I can't wait to watch and hopefully there will be a surprising moment in this race.
Grazie, Vale!

No, I haven't saw it. Probably you as Italian know these things better. Yeah, his team probably screwed up him race in Mexico, but how exactly they made him to lose points in other occasions and what's the point of it for them?

Have you seen what Alfa Romeo is doing with him?

He already accused them of sabotage, they made him lose so many points and the radio communication from last week was humiliating for a driver.

Giovinazzi have been performing well in Qualifications especially he most of the times qualifies better tge his teammate Raikonen but when Kimi finish above Gio he gets points which is going to overshadow the performance of Giovinazzi because it's it dose not matter where are you going to start the most important is where are going to finish.
It's still few races left and nothing is official but its still not looking good for his future for next season.

Brazil Gp starts tomorrow with 1 sessions free practice followed by Qualification sessions afterwards preparation for the Sprint Race the day after tomorrow and there is rumours that Hamilton could be facing  a grid penalty fir the Brazilian GP for changing parts in Power Unit this could affect his ability to catch up with Verstappen once more.

Although a team whose name is a race is something that must be taken seriously because if it is drawn basically all the riders are friends outside the track, except for those who have personal problems, but they will all be hostile to each other when they are on the track because it is to prove themselves to be better.
I've been watching MotoGP for a very long time, bro, right in 2000 when Valentino Rossi had just upgraded from 250cc Gp to 500cc 2-stroke MotoGP.

Don't agree about it. How you can say that Giovinazzi have good season when he have just 1 point, while Kimi already got 10. I'm sure that Bottas will perform better. Giovinazzi in all these years in F1 haven't done anything special, he was simply not great, not terrible.
If they will sign Zhou from F2, it's difficult to expect that he will have better results, but he will bring good money for Alfa Romeo.

Well, it was relatively fun in the beginning Indeed, the fundamental events for the race took place at the very start, when Bottas could not hold the lead and Verstappen still overtook Hamilton and broke into first place. Further, the main intrigue was only whether Perez would be able to get ahead of Hamilton at the end of the race, because Hamilton himself, judging by the condition of the car, could not impose a fight on Verstappen for first place. Team tactics also played a positive role here, when Mercedes sent Hamilton to change tires before the Red Bull drivers, which eventually allowed Perez to be left behind.

It is good to have races three weeks in a row. We had the Mexico GP last weekend and we have the Brazil GP this weekend. And there is going to be another race next week too which is the Qatar GP. This is wonderful for us, the F1 lovers.    But it may not be very good mentally for the two drivers in the title race these days. Max Verstappen has opened the gap more now and it is 19 points. They both need to focus on every race remaining. We'll see if Hamilton will end in front of Verstappen this time. If he doesn't, his chance of winning the title will lessen and the chance of seeing a new champion will increase more.

According to rumors next week Alfa Romeo will say publicly the new driver of the car over Giovinazzi.

It's a shame IMHO, he is doing a good season and for sure he should deserve another year.

Do they really think Bottas will do better?

It was a boring race for sure, and there wasn't much aside from Bottas trying to overtake Ricciardo and failing + Perez trying to overtake Hamillton on the last 10 laps and failing. Those were the only things that matter and both failed as well so there wasn't much to watch. However it is a long season and each race plays a role honestly, even if you are getting bored from the race like some Austria 2021 type of situation where it is clear from the start that who will win is right there, it is still a good thing to watch because it fills a hole in the whole season.

If you do not watch even one race, then you are going to end up with not knowing what happened in one of the races and you can't see the full picture. Bottas did had a very weird race, from being at pole to crashing to failing to take over a McLaren to trying to take fastest lap with 2 different sets, all of them were very weird but I guess it made it a bit more entertaining for him since he had a goal at least.

If I look at the moto2 class it looks like only 2 people have a chance to win Moto 2. There is Remy Gardner with 305 points, while in 2nd place there is Raul Fernandez with 282 points. You're right they are one team from Red Bull KTM AJO. As for the 3rd position there is Marco Bezzecchi with a fairly far margin because it only has 214 points. Wondering if they're going to take it seriously? Because they're one team.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/

I too agree that he did not bought it on himself, and as you’ll know that timing is very crucial when drivers need to take such turns and in his case it was just a matter of seconds which resulted in the crash, and hence one can’t blame him for being passive.

Also each crash is a lesson for the drivers to learn, and I’m sure that Bottas may have gained experience to avoid such crashes for future races.

The race for the World title for MotoGP is over as well as Moto3 and the factory constructors, so all that's left now is the race for the world title for the Moto2 class where the candidates are both riders from the KTM team so it will be very interesting to look forward to the last race of the year in Valencia

I wouldn't say he brought it himself, but I wouldn't say Ricciardo was at fault there neither. Bottas had a much tigther cut there, with Max on his left and Hamilton on his front because Hamilton actually took the lead for a second there, or at least was in front of Bottas if you check. So, what did Bottas had to do? Do a sharp cut so that he would close anyone coming in and be at the third place, if not hit from the behind there, dude would have been at least third or fourth.

However, when you do a sharp cut like that, which requires you to break a lot earlier, that leaves the door open for other cars coming from behind, he took a sharp turn while Ricciardo was there and he basically touched Ricciardos wings himself. This wasn't "his fault" because that was literally what he had to do, if he was just one meter ahead or if Ricciardo was 1 meter behind, that was a great move, and the move he had to do. Just unlucky positioning a that moment, that’s all.

Yep, they did.
And Verstappen tried to sabotage Bottas too slowing down.

This was very unsportsmanlike behavior by him.

One point difference, prefer Mercedes over Red Bull.
A faster lap point has become very important and may be decisive.
We saw how Mercedes introduced Valtteri to change his tires twice, more than their strategy to snatch a point from Max and Red Bull, which is what
Help them maintain the lead of the manufacturers' championship

The Mexico GP was boring unfortunately. I didn't expect a this much boring race honestly. The only delightful part was the start of the race undoubtedly. Because just as I guessed, there was a huge competition between the first three drivers on the grid. And I really appreciated Verstappen's big start and having a clean race. It was also nice to see Perez being on the podium by ending at the third position. After this race, the gap between Verstappen and Hamilton has gone up to 19 points which is really critical considering there are only four races left.