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Baku Qualifying result Azerbaijan GP

1   77   Valtteri Bottas   MERCEDES   1:42.026   1:41.500   1:40.495   
2   44   Lewis Hamilton   MERCEDES   1:41.614   1:41.580   1:40.554   
3   5   Sebastian Vettel   FERRARI   1:42.042   1:41.889   1:40.797   
4   33   Max Verstappen   RED BULL RACING HONDA   1:41.727   1:41.388   1:41.069   
5   11   Sergio Perez   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   1:42.249   1:41.870   1:41.593   
6   26   Daniil Kvyat   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   1:42.324   1:42.221   1:41.681   
7   4   Lando Norris   MCLAREN RENAULT   1:42.371   1:42.084   1:41.886   
8   99   Antonio Giovinazzi   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   1:42.140   1:42.381   1:42.424   
9   7   Kimi Räikkönen   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   1:42.059   1:42.082   1:43.068   
10   16   Charles Leclerc   FERRARI   1:41.426   1:41.995      
11   55   Carlos Sainz   MCLAREN RENAULT   1:41.936   1:42.398      
12   3   Daniel Ricciardo   RENAULT   1:42.486   1:42.477      
13   23   Alexander Albon   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   1:42.154   1:42.494      
14   20   Kevin Magnussen   HAAS FERRARI   1:42.382   1:42.699         
15   18   Lance Stroll   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   1:42.630         
16   8   Romain Grosjean   HAAS FERRARI   1:43.407         
17   27   Nico Hulkenberg   RENAULT   1:43.427         
18   63   George Russell   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   1:45.062         
19   88   Robert Kubica   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   1:45.455
NC   10   Pierre Gasly   RED BULL RACING HONDA   1:41.335      


NOTE
Gasly disqualified post-session for his car exceeding the permitted fuel flow rate. (start from pit lane)
Giovinazzi drops 10 grid places for use of additional power unit element. (He will start from 18th place)
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This weekend we have Azerbaijan Formula 1 GP. Watched yesterday little practices and they had to many mistakes. First I was sorry for Young Russel he completely destroy his car after he took hit. Many made mistake and we saw few more crashes so this race no matter if this is street race will be interesting. Think that more interesting will be watch team take battle for point think first 4-5 places are for Ferrari Mercedes and RB Max to be on this positions unless they crash in race.
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1000th race in F1 history wasn't very interesting. After great start Hamilton reached easy win. Again we saw team orders of Ferrari which didn't worked well for this team. Ferrari told Leclerc that he need to pass Vettel, but later when Leclerc was faster than Seb, Charles wasn't allowed to overtake him.It's great to see that Ricciardo finally reached finnish and got his first points.
Next GP after two weeks in Baku.

I think that we will see this problem at Ferrari many many times this year.
Leclerc is faster than Vettel in all the races till the start of the season but still he is said to let Seb pass him because he is the second driver in the team.
This tactic just drop the interest in watching the races.
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I reckon that as long as the cars are required the V6 engines, Mercedes will always have the advantage over every team. They had advanced knowledge and research on it and used politics to have it become the engine specification after dumping the V8 engines beginning on the 2014 season.
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1000th race in F1 history wasn't very interesting. After great start Hamilton reached easy win. Again we saw team orders of Ferrari which didn't worked well for this team. Ferrari told Leclerc that he need to pass Vettel, but later when Leclerc was faster than Seb, Charles wasn't allowed to overtake him.It's great to see that Ricciardo finally reached finnish and got his first points.
Next GP after two weeks in Baku.
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Full Race result from 1000 race in Formula 1 in China GP

1   44   Lewis Hamilton   MERCEDES   56   1:32:06.350   
2   77   Valtteri Bottas   MERCEDES   56   +6.552s   
3   5   Sebastian Vettel   FERRARI   56   +13.744s   
4   33   Max Verstappen   RED BULL RACING HONDA   56   +27.627s   
5   16   Charles Leclerc   FERRARI   56   +31.276s   
6   10   Pierre Gasly   RED BULL RACING HONDA   56   +89.307s   
7   3   Daniel Ricciardo   RENAULT   55   +1 lap   
8   11   Sergio Perez   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   55   +1 lap   
9   7   Kimi Räikkönen   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   55   +1 lap   
10   23   Alexander Albon   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   55   +1 lap   
11   8   Romain Grosjean   HAAS FERRARI   55   +1 lap   
12   18   Lance Stroll   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   55   +1 lap   
13   20   Kevin Magnussen   HAAS FERRARI   55   +1 lap   
14   55   Carlos Sainz   MCLAREN RENAULT   55   +1 lap   
15   99   Antonio Giovinazzi   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   55   +1 lap   
16   63   George Russell   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   54   +2 laps   
17   88   Robert Kubica   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   54   +2 laps   
18   4   Lando Norris   MCLAREN RENAULT   50   DNF
NC   26   Daniil Kvyat   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   41   DNF   
NC   27   Nico Hulkenberg   RENAULT   16   DNF   
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Qualifying result for China Formula 1 GP

1   77   Valtteri Bottas   MERCEDES   1:32.658   1:31.728   1:31.547   
2   44   Lewis Hamilton   MERCEDES   1:33.115   1:31.637   1:31.570   
3   5   Sebastian Vettel   FERRARI   1:33.557   1:32.232   1:31.848   17
4   16   Charles Leclerc   FERRARI   1:32.712   1:32.324   1:31.865   
5   33   Max Verstappen   RED BULL RACING HONDA   1:33.274   1:32.369   1:32.089   
6   10   Pierre Gasly   RED BULL RACING HONDA   1:33.863   1:32.948   1:32.930   
7   3   Daniel Ricciardo   RENAULT   1:33.709   1:33.214   1:32.958   
8   27   Nico Hulkenberg   RENAULT   1:33.644   1:32.968   1:32.962   
9   20   Kevin Magnussen   HAAS FERRARI   1:34.036   1:33.150
10   8   Romain Grosjean   HAAS FERRARI   1:33.752   1:33.156   
11   26   Daniil Kvyat   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   1:33.783   1:33.236      
12   11   Sergio Perez   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   1:34.026   1:33.299      
13   7   Kimi Räikkönen   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   1:34.125   1:33.419      
14   55   Carlos Sainz   MCLAREN RENAULT   1:33.686   1:33.523      
15   4   Lando Norris   MCLAREN RENAULT   1:34.148   1:33.967      
16   18   Lance Stroll   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   1:34.292         
17   63   George Russell   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   1:35.253         
18   88   Robert Kubica   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   1:35.281         
NC   99   Antonio Giovinazzi   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI      

Q1 107% time - 1:39.144

Note - Albon didn't take part in qualifying after crash in FP3. Giovinazzi failed to set a time in Q1. Both will race at the stewards' discretion.

Hey once again it’s Mercedes drivers who’re going to start from the first and second spot, I feel winner will be one of them either Bottas or Hamilton. It’s interesting to see that Ferrari drivers have the third and fourth spot, I wonder if they’ll be able to take any advantage of it. Also I’m hoping for some exciting race, and not one way victory for Mercedes.
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Qualifying result for China Formula 1 GP

1   77   Valtteri Bottas   MERCEDES   1:32.658   1:31.728   1:31.547   
2   44   Lewis Hamilton   MERCEDES   1:33.115   1:31.637   1:31.570   
3   5   Sebastian Vettel   FERRARI   1:33.557   1:32.232   1:31.848   17
4   16   Charles Leclerc   FERRARI   1:32.712   1:32.324   1:31.865   
5   33   Max Verstappen   RED BULL RACING HONDA   1:33.274   1:32.369   1:32.089   
6   10   Pierre Gasly   RED BULL RACING HONDA   1:33.863   1:32.948   1:32.930   
7   3   Daniel Ricciardo   RENAULT   1:33.709   1:33.214   1:32.958   
8   27   Nico Hulkenberg   RENAULT   1:33.644   1:32.968   1:32.962   
9   20   Kevin Magnussen   HAAS FERRARI   1:34.036   1:33.150
10   8   Romain Grosjean   HAAS FERRARI   1:33.752   1:33.156   
11   26   Daniil Kvyat   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   1:33.783   1:33.236      
12   11   Sergio Perez   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   1:34.026   1:33.299      
13   7   Kimi Räikkönen   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   1:34.125   1:33.419      
14   55   Carlos Sainz   MCLAREN RENAULT   1:33.686   1:33.523      
15   4   Lando Norris   MCLAREN RENAULT   1:34.148   1:33.967      
16   18   Lance Stroll   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   1:34.292         
17   63   George Russell   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   1:35.253         
18   88   Robert Kubica   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   1:35.281         
NC   99   Antonio Giovinazzi   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI      

Q1 107% time - 1:39.144

Note - Albon didn't take part in qualifying after crash in FP3. Giovinazzi failed to set a time in Q1. Both will race at the stewards' discretion.
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@LTU_b, @slocker. I would then speculate that Sebastian might make the transfer to Mercedes. However, with the new engine specifications beginning on 2021, he might be driving for only the 2nd fastest car again hehehehe.

Seb is going to make a transfer to Mercedes only if Hamilton retires. If not, the team doesn't have any benefit of having two drivers that compete for the title. It will bring only conflict.

Funny one. You think he is having bad luck since he left RB. Probably true. He had everything in his hands last season and he personally blow that out. We will see seems like this 2021 will be huge for everything in F1, from rules and regulation to teams and drivers. But this is still to early to say anything on this subject.
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@LTU_b, @slocker. I would then speculate that Sebastian might make the transfer to Mercedes. However, with the new engine specifications beginning on 2021, he might be driving for only the 2nd fastest car again hehehehe.

Seb is going to make a transfer to Mercedes only if Hamilton retires. If not, the team doesn't have any benefit of having two drivers that compete for the title. It will bring only conflict.
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@LTU_b, @slocker. I would then speculate that Sebastian might make the transfer to Mercedes. However, with the new engine specifications beginning on 2021, he might be driving for only the 2nd fastest car again hehehehe.
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Found out something interesting seem like Hamilton will retire after his contract expire or maybe after this season. His contract is like Vettels expire at the end of 2020 season, Lewis said that he is after some more challenges dunno on what he mean only thing that is mentioned is that he wanted to try formula E. Same as this one but with electric engines. If this comes to be and Lewis goes out as well as Vettel, then what could be drivers sets in Mercedes and Ferrari. For Ferrari believe that we could see Leclerk and Shumis kid and for Mercedes this is try mystery.

After Alonso leaving F1 this could be very sad to see. On some point we could see some new kids. This is something that we could guess who will be in Mercedes in 2021.
Interesting. If Hamilton will retire, it would be terrible news for F1. He is face of current F1 and if he will leave, it can cause decreasing popularity of F1, especially in UK which is their main market. Lewis already achieved everything what he can in F1, so maybe he want some new challenges. But Formula E wouldn't be best choice IMO. I tried to watch these races several times and it was so boring.
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Found out something interesting seem like Hamilton will retire after his contract expire or maybe after this season. His contract is like Vettels expire at the end of 2020 season, Lewis said that he is after some more challenges dunno on what he mean only thing that is mentioned is that he wanted to try formula E. Same as this one but with electric engines. If this comes to be and Lewis goes out as well as Vettel, then what could be drivers sets in Mercedes and Ferrari. For Ferrari believe that we could see Leclerk and Shumis kid and for Mercedes this is try mystery.

After Alonso leaving F1 this could be very sad to see. On some point we could see some new kids. This is something that we could guess who will be in Mercedes in 2021.
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Sebastian Vettel decided to make all the mistakes on the 1st half of this season and be over with it instead of doing it similar to his last season's performance where he did all the mistakes in the 2nd half hehehe.

I reckon Sebastian might leave Ferrari after his contact expires on 2020.


This is indeed a very sad happenings to Sebastian why all a sudden of mistakes being made. What do you think is it really a mistake or it was really done intentionally? We so noy know team's grievances but I think that Sebastian has the problem with the team or either vice versa.
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Maybe when Vettel contract will expire?

His contract expire next year and so far he didnt show what he could do. Last season he had title in his hand and then in his home track he ended up off track losing point and loosing gap between him and Hamilton. Mick and Leclerc are Ferrari future. Just hopefully for them if it comes to this that they wont fight each other but that they will work as team. Both have more then good potential and think that Ferrari needs to wait two more years until they have again some champ in there team..
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I think that Vettel just can't handle the pressure and this is why he makes these mistakes, especially when fighting with Hamilton for position on the track. In previous season he made many mistakes like spinning on the track and it cost him champion title. This season we see same thing. I agree that he may leave Ferrari after end of current contract if he won't win champion title.
Leclerc is a grest talent, he is very mature considering his young age. He is the future of Ferrari.
About Mick Schumacher - it's interesting to follow his progress, but I thing it's a bit too much hype about him. But I have no doubts that we will see him in Ferrari after few years. Maybe when Vettel contract will expire?
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I think that Leclerc has a brilliant future ahead of him at Ferrari and he did overtake his team mate also Ferrari favourite boy in even conditions on the track.For me that says a lot that this newcomer to Ferrari to be taken very seriously although it is the first time Ferrari trusr someone without titles before.

Schumacher and Vettel were both already World Champions before joining Ferrari.

Leclerc has shown great skills and abilities and he can evolve to be a champion
I hope that Ferrari will not keep him behind Vettel because they think that Vettel is a better driver for winning the title. We have seen that in the past and I didn't see it working. It is bad for the sport.
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I think that Leclerc has a brilliant future ahead of him at Ferrari and he did overtake his team mate also Ferrari favourite boy in even conditions on the track.For me that says a lot that this newcomer to Ferrari to be taken very seriously although it is the first time Ferrari trusr someone without titles before.

Schumacher and Vettel were both already World Champions before joining Ferrari.
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Sebastian Vettel decided to make all the mistakes on the 1st half of this season and be over with it instead of doing it similar to his last season's performance where he did all the mistakes in the 2nd half hehehe.
I reckon Sebastian might leave Ferrari after his contact expires on 2020.

Probably true. Schumi son tester after this race for Ferrari and he was to good, yesterday tested for Alfa Romeo and he was 6th. He definitely got thing ot two from his dad.
If Vettel is to leave Schumi son is first in line for that seat and with this Leclerc he could be next Ferrari team that they are so eager to have.

I don’t understand what has happened to Vettel and Ferrari both are so good, but on the track both are disappointing us. I feel you’re right it’s time for them to part unless he suddenly changes himself and starts winning which I highly doubt. Also it’s interesting to see Schumi son progress I feel it’ll be bit too soon for him to step up in Ferrari’s hot seat, but I feel in coming years he’ll definitely win them titles when he rides for them.
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Sebastian Vettel decided to make all the mistakes on the 1st half of this season and be over with it instead of doing it similar to his last season's performance where he did all the mistakes in the 2nd half hehehe.

I reckon Sebastian might leave Ferrari after his contact expires on 2020.



That's really bad attitude. If you want to be a champion you try not making mistakes.
By moving the mistakes that he made in the 2nd half to the 1st half will not make him a champion. Just see how Hamilton has improved his attitude all these years and see what he has achieved.
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