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June 02, 2020, 09:39:00 AM
Ok here we go, 1 month at the start of the season now is official by Formula 1.
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May 29, 2020, 05:49:06 PM
@LTU_btc while we all are disappointed that we won’t be able to watch the entire season, but under the current circumstances I’m sure that we all will be more than happy to watch any number of races, that they can organise for us don’t you’ll agree?.
Yeah, it's obviously much better than nothing. We all been waiting for F1 for so long and I really miss it.The tradition team Williams have financial problems and make a split from your sponsor.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html
It's sad to see current situation of legendary F1 team Williams. Just few years ago they were 3rd in constructors championship and now they turned into joke. It's all about bad management. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html
May 29, 2020, 04:58:09 PM
The tradition team Williams have financial problems and make a split from your sponsor.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html
Yeah if you remember the 2019 tests Williams was in such bad position (financial) that they came at the end of the 1st week because they didn't have the money to pay...
Rumors about the money cap is 145m$ for 2021, cut again from 1st idea @ 175m $.
I don't know if it will happen cause teams are already "speculating" with the idea of firing people to save money and I don't think it will be a good thing for the boss of F1 who will be considerer the responsible.
May 29, 2020, 02:31:13 PM
The tradition team Williams have financial problems and make a split from your sponsor.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html
May 29, 2020, 02:48:08 AM
Well, it doesn't looks bad in current situation. Especially because at some moment I was sceptical that 2020 season will not happen at all. And in terms of logistics it doesn't looks very complicated - first races in Europe, then moving to Asia, America and finally in Middle East. It's strange why they don't held Vietnam Gp together with China and Japain. And I'm not sure how they will held races without spectators in city tracks like Baku and Vietnam.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.
This is going to change the whole calendar.
In this end it would be better to change the order of the races than not doing them at all... Spectators are not going to be included but this is a huge negative impact for F1 as a huge stream of income for the organization is spectators.
May 29, 2020, 02:11:37 AM
^ Ugh. That's what's left? Man this pandemic really screwed everything over. Lots of lives are gonna change after this. Seriously. I've now become this weird guy who washes his hands every minute. Lolol.
@tokeweed yea we have no option but to adapt to this new reality, and you shouldn’t wash your hands every minute, because you’ll harm your skin in the long run due to those chemicals that they put in the sanitisers.
Well, it doesn't looks bad in current situation. Especially because at some moment I was sceptical that 2020 season will not happen at all. And in terms of logistics it doesn't looks very complicated - first races in Europe, then moving to Asia, America and finally in Middle East. It's strange why they don't held Vietnam Gp together with China and Japain. And I'm not sure how they will held races without spectators in city tracks like Baku and Vietnam.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.
@LTU_btc while we all are disappointed that we won’t be able to watch the entire season, but under the current circumstances I’m sure that we all will be more than happy to watch any number of races, that they can organise for us don’t you’ll agree?.
Sources:
https://www.thestreet.com/markets/5-hidden-dangers-of-hand-sanitizers-12966410
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/may/28/silverstone-set-to-host-back-to-back-f1-races-in-august
May 28, 2020, 05:53:27 PM
Well, it doesn't looks bad in current situation. Especially because at some moment I was sceptical that 2020 season will not happen at all. And in terms of logistics it doesn't looks very complicated - first races in Europe, then moving to Asia, America and finally in Middle East. It's strange why they don't held Vietnam Gp together with China and Japain. And I'm not sure how they will held races without spectators in city tracks like Baku and Vietnam.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.
May 28, 2020, 01:51:35 PM
Nono, we have a lot more, found one more reliable source in Italian, you can get the names in English is easy.
19 races atm on this schedule, with 2 races in Austria and 2 in Great Britain and 2 Bahrain
5 luglio: Austria
12 luglio: Austria 2
26 luglio: Gran Bretagna
2 agosto: Gran Bretagna 2
9 agosto: Ungheria
23 agosto: Spagna
30 agosto: Belgio
6 settembre: Italia
20 settembre: Baku
27 settembre: Russia
4 ottobre: Cina
11 ottobre: Giappone
25 ottobre: Stati Uniti
1 novembre: Messico
8 novembre: Brasile
22 Novembre: Vietnam
29 Novembre: Bahrain 1
6 Dicembre: Bahrain 2
13 Dicembre: Abu Dhabi
Source: https://www.fanpage.it/sport/motori/formula-1-nuovo-calendario-2020-19-gp-in-programma-a-monza-il-6-settembre/
19 races atm on this schedule, with 2 races in Austria and 2 in Great Britain and 2 Bahrain
5 luglio: Austria
12 luglio: Austria 2
26 luglio: Gran Bretagna
2 agosto: Gran Bretagna 2
9 agosto: Ungheria
23 agosto: Spagna
30 agosto: Belgio
6 settembre: Italia
20 settembre: Baku
27 settembre: Russia
4 ottobre: Cina
11 ottobre: Giappone
25 ottobre: Stati Uniti
1 novembre: Messico
8 novembre: Brasile
22 Novembre: Vietnam
29 Novembre: Bahrain 1
6 Dicembre: Bahrain 2
13 Dicembre: Abu Dhabi
Source: https://www.fanpage.it/sport/motori/formula-1-nuovo-calendario-2020-19-gp-in-programma-a-monza-il-6-settembre/
May 28, 2020, 12:34:03 PM
^ Ugh. That's what's left? Man this pandemic really screwed everything over. Lots of lives are gonna change after this. Seriously. I've now become this weird guy who washes his hands every minute. Lolol.
May 28, 2020, 10:33:52 AM
Adding more info on this season of F1 according to Mediaset
Budget cap approved for 2021-2022-2023-2024-2025
GP Austria 1st GP, they will race 2 times here.
GP Hungary 19 July
GP England delayed to 2 August, they will race 2 times here
GP Barcelona 15 August
GP Belgium 30 August
GP Italy 6 September
GP Holland canceled and delayed to 2021
Getting more info later.
Budget cap approved for 2021-2022-2023-2024-2025
GP Austria 1st GP, they will race 2 times here.
GP Hungary 19 July
GP England delayed to 2 August, they will race 2 times here
GP Barcelona 15 August
GP Belgium 30 August
GP Italy 6 September
GP Holland canceled and delayed to 2021
Getting more info later.
May 28, 2020, 09:13:52 AM
Of course, and I think more teams will save money over the next few years. The first team McLaren than i mean Renault will the first factory team will save costs. Mercedes is also under pressure from the shareholders, I think. So the cost cap is inevitable.
AFAIK if Coronavirus will end with this wave the resources of teams should be damaged for at least 2 years.
This is why they will postpone the revolution of new cars by one year, to save money and use this car one more year.
That's correct the no factory teams have all problems with the money.
Back to a confusion MotoGP News
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/27/miller-signs-with-the-official-ducati-team-for-2021/331005
Miller is a solid driver, but Ducati don't will a champion? I think Miller is not the right driver for Ducati to win the championship...
Miller is a good driver but he has never had a good ride like Ducati.Beside that he is also one of the rain masters which can be a determining factor if Ducati makes a great moto for the season and it is also accompanied with rain then this is a winning combination.I look forward to see Miller in Ducati together with Dovizioso.
That's correct Miller is a good driver, but he's good enough to beat Dovizioso? Or one of the two can beat Honda/Marquez very difficult
May 28, 2020, 06:43:26 AM
Of course, and I think more teams will save money over the next few years. The first team McLaren than i mean Renault will the first factory team will save costs. Mercedes is also under pressure from the shareholders, I think. So the cost cap is inevitable.
AFAIK if Coronavirus will end with this wave the resources of teams should be damaged for at least 2 years.
This is why they will postpone the revolution of new cars by one year, to save money and use this car one more year.
That's correct the no factory teams have all problems with the money.
Back to a confusion MotoGP News
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/27/miller-signs-with-the-official-ducati-team-for-2021/331005
Miller is a solid driver, but Ducati don't will a champion? I think Miller is not the right driver for Ducati to win the championship...
Miller is a good driver but he has never had a good ride like Ducati.Beside that he is also one of the rain masters which can be a determining factor if Ducati makes a great moto for the season and it is also accompanied with rain then this is a winning combination.I look forward to see Miller in Ducati together with Dovizioso.
May 28, 2020, 02:38:48 AM
Of course, and I think more teams will save money over the next few years. The first team McLaren than i mean Renault will the first factory team will save costs. Mercedes is also under pressure from the shareholders, I think. So the cost cap is inevitable.
AFAIK if Coronavirus will end with this wave the resources of teams should be damaged for at least 2 years.
This is why they will postpone the revolution of new cars by one year, to save money and use this car one more year.
That's correct the no factory teams have all problems with the money.
Back to a confusion MotoGP News
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/27/miller-signs-with-the-official-ducati-team-for-2021/331005
Miller is a solid driver, but Ducati don't will a champion? I think Miller is not the right driver for Ducati to win the championship...
May 27, 2020, 12:52:49 PM
Of course, and I think more teams will save money over the next few years. The first team McLaren than i mean Renault will the first factory team will save costs. Mercedes is also under pressure from the shareholders, I think. So the cost cap is inevitable.
AFAIK if Coronavirus will end with this wave the resources of teams should be damaged for at least 2 years.
This is why they will postpone the revolution of new cars by one year, to save money and use this car one more year.
May 27, 2020, 06:02:39 AM
The first Team McLaren reduce your employees by over 1200 😱
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-f1-team-mass-redundancies/4796788/
But the most are from the group, not primary from the F1 Team.
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McLaren Group to lay off 1200 employees amid restructure
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-f1-team-mass-redundancies/4796788/
But the most are from the group, not primary from the F1 Team.
If Coronavirus has hit massively companies like McLaren then I think that we are in a bad situation.
F1 is an expensive sport for the car industry companies so it is the first place that they are going to seek in order to cut costs. I hope that we are not going to read the same news from other companies in F1.
Of course, and I think more teams will save money over the next few years. The first team McLaren than i mean Renault will the first factory team will save costs. Mercedes is also under pressure from the shareholders, I think. So the cost cap is inevitable.
May 27, 2020, 03:03:35 AM
The first Team McLaren reduce your employees by over 1200 😱
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-f1-team-mass-redundancies/4796788/
But the most are from the group, not primary from the F1 Team.
Quote
McLaren Group to lay off 1200 employees amid restructure
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-f1-team-mass-redundancies/4796788/
But the most are from the group, not primary from the F1 Team.
If Coronavirus has hit massively companies like McLaren then I think that we are in a bad situation.
F1 is an expensive sport for the car industry companies so it is the first place that they are going to seek in order to cut costs. I hope that we are not going to read the same news from other companies in F1.
May 26, 2020, 03:06:10 PM
The first Team McLaren reduce your employees by over 1200 😱
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-f1-team-mass-redundancies/4796788/
But the most are from the group, not primary from the F1 Team.
Quote
McLaren Group to lay off 1200 employees amid restructure
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-f1-team-mass-redundancies/4796788/
But the most are from the group, not primary from the F1 Team.
May 25, 2020, 07:57:57 AM
^ Sure... But at least it levels the playing field 'within' the sport itself to encourage other manufacturers to get in instead of having what the sport currently has, that's not Ferrari or Merc, go out.
But yeah, I get what you're saying.
Anyway, I trust Brawn on this. Let's see how it pans out.
But yeah, I get what you're saying.
Anyway, I trust Brawn on this. Let's see how it pans out.
I also and hope it's for the fans and tension at the races the right way. For the big teams it's difficult the have many employment for a higher budget so what make with the many people?
May 23, 2020, 03:09:53 PM
^ Sure... But at least it levels the playing field 'within' the sport itself to encourage other manufacturers to get in instead of having what the sport currently has, that's not Ferrari or Merc, go out.
But yeah, I get what you're saying.
Anyway, I trust Brawn on this. Let's see how it pans out.
But yeah, I get what you're saying.
Anyway, I trust Brawn on this. Let's see how it pans out.
May 23, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
^ What do you mean?
I mean they can set even a 100m € as cap but teams are already exploiting and invest everything they have by enhancing their wind tunnels for example and going red in the budget in these years till the cap will be a thing, to then have a technical advantage in the following years.
A team, always considering 100 hypothetical millions of caps for Formula 1, can invest another 300 million through other categories (like Mercedes in Formula E) to develop the hybrid engine.
In formula E there are no budget limits.
Once the improvement electric motor has been developed, you can transport the technology in formula 1 "free of charge".
The same goes for every single piece of a car, which I know, for example, developments on petrol, Drs gear and more spend on progress outside Formula 1 cars and import it at cost "0" for the cap.
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