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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 23, 2017, 08:06:41 PM

@cicciobtc. But if Sebastian Vettel gets 1st place in qualifying it will make it more clear for Ferrari win. Do not forget the stricter rules imposed by the FIA on oil burning during qualifying that was giving Mercedes the advantage at every Q3.

i agree with you, but also agree with what cicciobtc has written. Belgium Spa is very good for Mercedes. And I think one of the couple of mercedes drivers, Hamilton or Bottas, will win this race. But also I hope ferrari drives will make it difficult.

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Life, Love and Laughter...

I had to rub my eyes to see if it's really true. It's finally an F1 weekend! Now I don't know what to watch this weekend as the schedule is packed with football games and F1. And there's also the dog and pony show between May and Mac. It will be a good weekend. Grin

2017 Belgian Grand Prix Timetable

Thursday August 24

1500 – Drivers' Press Conference

Part 1 – Esteban Ocon (Force India)
– Stoffel Vandoorne (McLaren)
– Max Verstappen (Red Bull)

Part 2 – Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes)
– Felipe Massa (Williams)
– Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)

Friday August 25

1000-1130 – First practice session

1400-1530 – Second practice session

1600 – Team Principal Press Conference

Part 1 – Cyril Abiteboul (Renault)
– Christian Horner (Red Bull)
– Guenther Steiner (Haas)

Part 2 – Zak Brown (McLaren)
– Yusuke Hasegawa (Honda)
– Franz Tost (Toro Rosso)

Saturday August 26

1100-1200 – Third practice session

1400-1500 – Qualifying

Post qualifying – Press conference with three fastest drivers from qualifying

Sunday August 27

1230 – Drivers' Parade

1400 – Race

2017 Belgian Grand Prix | F1 Fast Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Zrj8pfjjs

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@cicciobtc. But if Sebastian Vettel gets 1st place in qualifying it will make it more clear for Ferrari win. Do not forget the stricter rules imposed by the FIA on oil burning during qualifying that was giving Mercedes the advantage at every Q3.

cicciobtc

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This week there is the F1 at Spa, and the MotoGp at Silverstone!
In f1 Hamilton is the big favorite (it's a good track for the Mercedes).
In Motogp maybe it is the last chance for the 2 Yamaha to reduce the gap from Marquez. The race could be wet!

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Quote from: mnixxo on August 22, 2017, 06:16:44 AM

Quote from: cicciobtc on August 22, 2017, 05:51:49 AM

Today Raikkonen (37 years old) has renewed for another year his contract with Ferrari. He deserved the renewal in budapest gp helping Vettel win that Gp.

he should win in budapest. but ... ok .. so new contract only for one year furthermore ... he retained by ferrari for 2018

Ferrari is keeping him as a second driver from quite a few years now. Shame on Raikkonen for finishing like that , when he was at Mclaren he won quite some races and he was not treated like that, he never got order from the team, a common thing in Ferrari, that's why I am not a fan of them. I don't like team orders.

Anyway happy birthday to him, I remember good times from him when he was driving for Mclaren.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on August 22, 2017, 05:51:49 AM

Today Raikkonen (37 years old) has renewed for another year his contract with Ferrari. He deserved the renewal in budapest gp helping Vettel win that Gp.

he should win in budapest. but ... ok .. so new contract only for one year furthermore ... he retained by ferrari for 2018

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Today Raikkonen (37 years old) has renewed for another year his contract with Ferrari. He deserved the renewal in budapest gp helping Vettel win that Gp.

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Current F1 standings:

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1    Sebastian Vettel    GER    Ferrari    202
2    Lewis Hamilton    GBR    Mercedes    188
3    Valtteri Bottas    FIN    Mercedes    169
4    Daniel Ricciardo    AUS    Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer    117
5    Kimi Räikkönen    FIN    Ferrari    116
6    Max Verstappen    NED    Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer    67
7    Sergio Perez    MEX    Force India Mercedes    56
8    Esteban Ocon    FRA    Force India Mercedes    45
9    Carlos Sainz    ESP    Toro Rosso    35
10    Nico Hulkenberg    GER    Renault    26
11    Felipe Massa    BRA    Williams Mercedes    23
12    Lance Stroll    CAN    Williams Mercedes    18
13    Romain Grosjean    FRA    Haas Ferrari    18
14    Kevin Magnussen    DEN    Haas Ferrari    11
15    Fernando Alonso    ESP    McLaren Honda    10
16    Pascal Wehrlein    GER    Sauber Ferrari    5
17    Daniil Kvyat    RUS    Toro Rosso    4
18    Stoffel Vandoorne    BEL    McLaren Honda    1
19    Jolyon Palmer    GBR    Renault    0
20    Marcus Ericsson    SWE    Sauber Ferrari    0
21    Antonio Giovinazzi    ITA    Sauber Ferrari    0

I think it's still very exciting... Vettel will win again if I had to choose a winner and put some money on the line, but Hamilton is very solid on the last fights on every championship... it will be between the two for sure. Bottas will not win his first tournament this year unfortunately for him.

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Quote from: ocimjr on August 17, 2017, 12:05:14 AM

Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship. Grin

lol . you are one year behind. Grin

this season isnt bore till now. and we can see two teams fighting for champions title. try to turn on tv next sunday.

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Quote from: ocimjr on August 17, 2017, 12:05:14 AM

Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship. Grin

Rosberg? He is retired from formula1 his season. Don't post rubbish not time at least read some infos about any moto sport.

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Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship. Grin

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Standing MotoGP after 11 of 18 races:

1)Marquez 174 gap
2)Dovizioso 158 -16
3)Vinales 150 -24
4)Rossi 141 -33
5)Pedrosa 139 -35

6)Zarco 99 -75
7)Lorenzo 79 -95
8 )Folger 77 -97
9)Crutchlow 76 -98
10)Petrucci 75 -99

Marquez at this point seems to be the big favorite for the championship win. Vinales and Rossi must win in next GP at Silverstone (August 27) if they want to fight for the championship.

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Gp Austria final result top 10:

1)DOVIZIOSO Ducati   39'43.323 gap
2)MARQUEZ   Honda +0.176
3)PEDROSA   Honda   +2.661
4)LORENZO   Ducati   +6.663
5)ZARCO   Yamaha   +7.262
6)VIÑALES   Yamaha   +7.447
7)ROSSI      Yamaha   +8.995
8 )BAUTISTA   Ducati +14.515
9)BAZ    Ducati +19.620
10)KALLIO   KTM +19.766

Great victory for Dovizioso who seems to be the only one to fight Marquez in the world championship.
Disastrous the Yamaha of Vinales and V. Rossi lose so many points today

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 12, 2017, 08:29:54 PM

Quote from: thebatletbet on August 12, 2017, 05:56:18 PM

Quote from: cicciobtc on August 11, 2017, 08:44:19 AM

Gp Austria fp1+fp2 top 10 times:

1) DOVIZIOSO Ducati   1'24.046    gap
2) VIÑALES Yamaha 1'24.280    0.234
3) PEDROSA Honda 1'24.474    0.428
4) ZARCO Yamaha   1'24.522    0.476
5) LORENZO   Ducati 1'24.616    0.570
6) BARBERA Ducati 1'24.631 0.585
7) MARQUEZ    Honda 1'24.649    0.603
8 )CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'24.668 0.622
9) ESPARGARO aprilia 1'24.726 0.680
10) REDDING Ducati      1'24.765 0.719

Valentino Rossi is out of 10!
Ducati confirms to be very strong on this track!

iam not understand about valentino rossi and marc marques performance why is ver bad
and ducati is amazing, another dovi get pole position, 4 ducati rider get big 10 in start race

What you quote is not the qualifying result but thats the free practice only. Here is the qualifying result for the Austria Race :

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 23.235s [Lap 8/10] 311km/h (Max)
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 23.379s +0.144s [10/10] 306km/h
3. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 23.621s +0.386s [6/8] 305km/h
4. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 23.754s +0.519s [8/9] 306km/h
5. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 23.780s +0.545s [8/8] 303km/h
6. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 23.879s +0.644s [7/8] 306km/h
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 23.982s +0.747s [8/9] 304km/h
8. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 23.985s +0.750s [9/9] 308km/h
9. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 24.024s +0.789s [8/10] 304km/h
10. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 24.185s +0.950s [9/10] 303km/h
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So you are wrong if Marquez is very bad as he will start from the pole position.

Marquez and Dovizioso are the great favorites today. Even in warm up were the best.The Ducati on this track is very strong and Dovizioso will try in every way to win. While Marquez could settle for second place. V.Rossi can complete the podium.

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Quote from: thebatletbet on August 12, 2017, 05:56:18 PM

Quote from: cicciobtc on August 11, 2017, 08:44:19 AM

Gp Austria fp1+fp2 top 10 times:

1) DOVIZIOSO Ducati   1'24.046    gap
2) VIÑALES Yamaha 1'24.280    0.234
3) PEDROSA Honda 1'24.474    0.428
4) ZARCO Yamaha   1'24.522    0.476
5) LORENZO   Ducati 1'24.616    0.570
6) BARBERA Ducati 1'24.631 0.585
7) MARQUEZ    Honda 1'24.649    0.603
8 )CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'24.668 0.622
9) ESPARGARO aprilia 1'24.726 0.680
10) REDDING Ducati      1'24.765 0.719

Valentino Rossi is out of 10!
Ducati confirms to be very strong on this track!

iam not understand about valentino rossi and marc marques performance why is ver bad
and ducati is amazing, another dovi get pole position, 4 ducati rider get big 10 in start race

What you quote is not the qualifying result but thats the free practice only. Here is the qualifying result for the Austria Race :

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 23.235s [Lap 8/10] 311km/h (Max)
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 23.379s +0.144s [10/10] 306km/h
3. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 23.621s +0.386s [6/8] 305km/h
4. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 23.754s +0.519s [8/9] 306km/h
5. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 23.780s +0.545s [8/8] 303km/h
6. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 23.879s +0.644s [7/8] 306km/h
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 23.982s +0.747s [8/9] 304km/h
8. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 23.985s +0.750s [9/9] 308km/h
9. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 24.024s +0.789s [8/10] 304km/h
10. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 24.185s +0.950s [9/10] 303km/h
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So you are wrong if Marquez is very bad as he will start from the pole position.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on August 11, 2017, 08:44:19 AM

Gp Austria fp1+fp2 top 10 times:

1) DOVIZIOSO Ducati   1'24.046    gap
2) VIÑALES Yamaha 1'24.280    0.234
3) PEDROSA Honda 1'24.474    0.428
4) ZARCO Yamaha   1'24.522    0.476
5) LORENZO   Ducati 1'24.616    0.570
6) BARBERA Ducati 1'24.631 0.585
7) MARQUEZ    Honda 1'24.649    0.603
8 )CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'24.668 0.622
9) ESPARGARO aprilia 1'24.726 0.680
10) REDDING Ducati      1'24.765 0.719

Valentino Rossi is out of 10!
Ducati confirms to be very strong on this track!

iam not understand about valentino rossi and marc marques performance why is ver bad
and ducati is amazing, another dovi get pole position, 4 ducati rider get big 10 in start race

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Quote from: cicciobtc on August 11, 2017, 08:44:19 AM

Gp Austria fp1+fp2 top 10 times:

1) DOVIZIOSO Ducati   1'24.046    gap
2) VIÑALES Yamaha 1'24.280    0.234
3) PEDROSA Honda 1'24.474    0.428
4) ZARCO Yamaha   1'24.522    0.476
5) LORENZO   Ducati 1'24.616    0.570
6) BARBERA Ducati 1'24.631 0.585
7) MARQUEZ    Honda 1'24.649    0.603
8 )CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'24.668 0.622
9) ESPARGARO aprilia 1'24.726 0.680
10) REDDING Ducati      1'24.765 0.719

Valentino Rossi is out of 10!
Ducati confirms to be very strong on this track!

Marc Marquez is too low there, but I suspect that he will pass everyone in the track. When he doesn't qualify with a top3 he always manages to pass a ton of people like Valentino Rossi. I think Marc Marquez will become the next Angel Nieto. He still very young, and he can reach 13 world champions if he keeps trying. He already has 5 and he is only 24. Maybe he can even surpass Ago, but he would need to win 11 more titles.

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Gp Austria fp1+fp2 top 10 times:

1) DOVIZIOSO Ducati   1'24.046    gap
2) VIÑALES Yamaha 1'24.280    0.234
3) PEDROSA Honda 1'24.474    0.428
4) ZARCO Yamaha   1'24.522    0.476
5) LORENZO   Ducati 1'24.616    0.570
6) BARBERA Ducati 1'24.631 0.585
7) MARQUEZ    Honda 1'24.649    0.603
8 )CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'24.668 0.622
9) ESPARGARO aprilia 1'24.726 0.680
10) REDDING Ducati      1'24.765 0.719

Valentino Rossi is out of 10!
Ducati confirms to be very strong on this track!

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This week there is the gp of Austria (track Red Bull Ring).
The Ducati dominated last year so they should be favorite.
Lorenzo can finally make a leading run, while Dovizioso can retrieve points on Marquez.

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Quote from: Dux2K on August 08, 2017, 11:13:36 AM

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Today was a boring race at Circuit of Brno in Czech Republic. Rossi as always failed to go change the bike within the same time as his contender for the race. Fortune is with the bolds and this time I see this saying in practice. In my country we say "Gara bagnata, gara fortunate" which means "Wet race, luck race" but this time this saying for Rossi was "Gara bagnata, gara sfortunata" meaning "Wet race, unlucky race".

Still the championship is wide open with plenty more races to go.

because marques the best in replace tire
after all rider pitstop and replace tire, marques leading with defeat 18 second, so very boring this race. without over take winner in brno

He truly is. He did it again change in the right moment and again won like last year.
Can't believe that Yamaha made same mistake again.

It was not only Yamaha fault, it was both Rossi and Yamaha fault. If Rossi would have gone in to change the tire at least 2 laps before he did, he would have had a chance to have a go at the win of the race. He has done this mistake a lot of times by not changing bike when needed, and this is the only minus in the career of "The Doctor".

Valentino Rossi made an incredible comeback coming fourth. He had to fight for the win but his team made a big mistake while waiting for too many laps. These lost points might be decisive.

OK he made good in race but when will he made first move. He is good driver but he needs to take more risks.

Unfortunately this time his team made so many mistakes. He took great risks by making a crazy comeback with so many overtakings. Right now he is in a good shape and looks the only one that can undermine Marquez.

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