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Very bad Yamaha.
But I expect an unpredictable Gp because there is a lot of degradation and I expect to see so many falls. Marquez fell about 10 times in 3 days!
Today it will be important to take some points without risking too much

Full Qualifying results for MotoGP Catalunya

Bad performance for factory Yamaha drivers,  not good for then for tomorrow race

1.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   43.870s   [Lap 5/7]   340km/h (Top Speed) 
2.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   44.201s    +0.331s   [2/7]   344km/h 
3.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   44.220s    +0.350s   [6/7]   344km/h 
4.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   44.320s    +0.450s   [5/5]   342km/h 
5.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   44.348s    +0.478s   [7/7]   338km/h 
6.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   44.381s    +0.511s   [5/7]   338km/h 
7.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   44.451s    +0.581s   [5/6]   340km/h 
8.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   44.600s    +0.730s   [3/5]   338km/h 
9.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   44.620s    +0.750s   [6/8]   339km/h 
10.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   44.740s    +0.870s   [6/6]   346km/h 
11.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   44.852s    +0.982s   [7/7]   344km/h 
12.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   44.928s    +1.058s   [6/8]   343km/h 
13.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   44.661s   338km/h   
14.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   44.681s   338km/h   
15.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   44.829s   341km/h   
16.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   44.919s   338km/h   
17.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   45.162s   339km/h   
18.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   45.641s   340km/h   
19.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   45.741s   339km/h   
20.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   45.887s   344km/h   
21.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m   48.803s   331km/h   
Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   No Time   
Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   No Time

This is one of those weekends when we have both formula1 and motogp.

By me he should stay in Ferrari they finally started to work like team and what would be his move going to Mercedes to be driver no.2, not gonna happen.
Vettel is good where he is and it would be vise for him to stay in the Ferrari and i hope he will take title after very long time for Ferrari. The are only competitive team to Mercedes Red Bull is trying but still they are few step behind. On other teams I dont want to take any option.

Why is Vettel holding out on extending his stay with Ferrari?  I think he should jump into it and pledge his future with them.  This could be a beginning of a new era, very much like Schumacher's reign.

Vettel given deadline on Ferrari future – report
http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-given-deadline-on-ferrari-future-report/

In Canada's GP, the Mercedes should be a favorite.
Ferrari won in Canada in 2004!
If Ferrari were to win here too, it would almost certainly win the world championship.


This weekend there will also be the Motogp in Valencia

Another GP already?  Yes!

I'm not updated with F1 lately but last I heard we'll be seeing more of Red Bull's upgrades by the Canadian GP.  Well it's the Canadian GP and so far I haven't read of any upgrades unless I missed it.  I mean it should be big news considering RBR has a big budget for their hype machine.

Anyway here's the schedule for this week's race.

2017 Canadian GP Timetable
All times are local (Montreal is GMT -4)

Thursday June 8
09:30 – 11:00: F1 drivers’ autograph session
11:00: FIA press conference

Friday June 9
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00: FIA press conference

Saturday June 10
08:30 – 9:00: Team pit stop practice
10:00 – 11:00: Third free practice
13:00 – 14:00: Qualifying
14:00: FIA post qualifying press conference

Sunday June 11
12:30: Formula One drivers’ parade
12:45 – 13:15: Starting grid presentation
13:46: National anthem
14:00 – 16:00: Canadian GP
16:00: FIA post race press conference


2017 Canadian Grand Prix: F1 Fast Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83WVSj7pd4U

Yes he was one of the up and coming drivers as seen in his BMW-Sauber days.

Does he still have the same skills as he had 8 - 10 years ago? There is no doubt that he could have been one of the better drivers out there today if it were not for his accident. But in his long absence, the sport may have already evolved too far making it hard for him to have a good impact.

Oh, he was one of my favorite drivers, especially when he was in BMW - Sauber team. I'm still remember his terrible crash on Canada GP
But it will be hard to find a team. Now teams prefer young drivers with rich sponsors instead of veterans.

Robert Kubica (32 years old) is back!

After the terrible accident in a rally race 6 years ago, no one would have thought that he could still compete in f1.
He has been able to complete 115 laps on the Valencia circuit with Lotus-Renault 2012 making competitive time.
He said he wanted to try to make another 1 race in f1.

I hope he can fulfill his dream.

Standing MotoGP after 6 races:


1) Vinales     105    
2) Dovizioso   79     -26
3) Rossi         75     -30
4) Marquez    68     -37
4) Pedrosa     68     -37
6) Zarco        64     -41
7) Lorenzo     46     -59
8 ) Petrucci     42     -63
9) Folger        41    -64
10 Crutchlow  40    -65


Great balance this year in motogp with 4 different winners in 6 races.
Vinales had a great start to the season but if he makes 0 points in 1 race, we have 6 riders in less than 25 points

2017 Italian MotoGP, Mugello - Full Race Results

1.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 41m 32.126s
2.   Maverick Viñales   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 41m 33.407s
3.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 41m 34.460s
4.   Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 41m 35.811s
5.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16) 41m 37.928s
6.   Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 41m 38.011s
7.   Johann Zarco   FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 41m 45.331s
8.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 41m 46.519s
9.   Michele Pirro   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 41m 47.006s
10.   Andrea Iannone   ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 41m 47.628s
11.   Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 41m 54.130s
12.   Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 41m 57.078s
13.   Jonas Folger   GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 42m 0.286s
14.   Hector Barbera   ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 42m 2.802s
15.   Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 42m 2.905s
16.   Karel Abraham   CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15) 42m 14.432s
17.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 42m 18.420s
18.   Loris Baz   FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 42m 22.857s
19.   Sam Lowes   GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 42m 22.866s
20.   Bradley Smith   GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 42m 23.023s
Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) DNF
Dani Pedrosa   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) DNF
Aleix Espargaro   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) DNF
Pol Espargaro   ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) DNF

even still not on the fit condition but Valentino Rossi able to reach 2nd position for Qualifying results and i think that was pretty good but in my point of view in this race probably he still on the podium but regarding the first position i think it does not belong to him

2017 Italian MotoGP, Mugello - Full Qualifying Results

1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m 46.575s [Lap 6/7]   340km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m 46.814s +0.239s   [6/7]   343km/h
3.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m 46.835s +0.260s   [6/7]   350km/h
4.   Michele Pirro   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m 46.878s +0.303s   [7/8]   351km/h
5.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m 46.999s +0.424s   [7/8]   345km/h
6.   Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m 47.050s +0.475s   [7/7]   344km/h
7.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m 47.152s +0.577s   [8/9]   349km/h
8.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m 47.167s +0.592s   [6/8]   351km/h
9.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m 47.266s +0.691s   [3/7]   352km/h
10.   Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m 47.282s +0.707s   [6/8]   343km/h
11.   Johann Zarco   FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m 47.319s +0.744s   [5/6]   343km/h
12.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m 47.475s +0.900s   [4/5]   344km/h
13.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m 47.220s 340km/h   
14.   Hector Barbera   ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m 47.272s 351km/h   
15.   Jonas Folger   GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m 47.305s 339km/h   
16.   Andrea Iannone   ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m 47.625s 342km/h   
17.   Loris Baz   FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m 47.809s 342km/h   
18.   Pol Espargaro   ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m 47.940s 340km/h   
19.   Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m 47.961s 342km/h   
20.   Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m 47.975s 345km/h   
21.   Karel Abraham   CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m 48.361s 344km/h   
22.   Sam Lowes   GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m 48.416s 338km/h   
23.   Bradley Smith   GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m 48.594s 338km/h   
24.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m 48.892s 342km/h

Redbull is not a killer team anymore. I remember the Vettel year how they had an amazing car, there were even doubts of the car having illegal improvements because the performance was from another planet.

Then suddenly Redbull is not as competitive anymore and Mercedes is the best.

In the first free practice session of Italy GP (Mugello), best time for Dovizioso 1'47 "394,
2)Pirro 0.201    3)Vinales 0.275    4)Zarco    6)Lorenzo 9)Marquez.

Valentino Rossi is only 15th to over 1.100 from the best time but seems to be in good condition to run the race.
I'm convinced he will find the strength to get on the podium

Among the top teams that have drivers that are out of contract in the end of the season are, Mercedes - Valterri Bottas, Ferrari - Sebastian and Kimi, and Redbull - Daniel Riccardio.

My prediction for the 2018 drives would be Daniel goes to Ferrari to replace Kimi. Kimi goes to Redbull with Fernando Alonso. Mercedes stays the same.

Well, you need more than a car that can finish races. If you can finish the race and never be able to fight for the tournament, you are still in a way getting scammed as a racer that is obviously a top3 driver if not the best driver.

He may get tired of the bullshit and if next year his car is not only more stable but still not a competitive car, then he will try again Indy500 or LeMans.

Good news for Valentino Rossi!
He just got the go-ahead to participate in the next race of Italian GP at Mugello.
He will not be 100% physically fit, but his talent can offset this deficit.

Speculation on him leaving are true, there were also talks that McLaren will take Mercedes engines, but this turn out to be scam. Alonso is probably best driver here, he showed this with less competitive cars in last few season and for him it would be good to see him in RedBull but dont think it is possible. It was even announced at one point at the end of last season that he will join in Mercedes but turn out to be scan again. Think that Alonso will wait for last possible moment to decide and make decision.