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Watch the fast facts vid for the Spanish GP.

2017 Spanish Grand Prix | F1 Fast Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AisBLnW2Kc

Towards the end it pointed out that 'Verstappen became the 10th different winner in the last 10 years in Spain'.  That's an interesting statistic because there's a chance that there could be an 11th.  And the only names I don't see there are Bottas and Ricciardo who are valued at 4.50 and 23.00 respectively.  

The Spanish grand prix might be Mercedes' race. They still have the engine power advantage and if they start pushing hard, Lewis and Valtteri has shown that they are quick enough at qualifying and at the race. The Ferrari is also quick but not very dominating.

Who will win the F1 GP of Spain?


Hamilton     @2.50
Vettel          @2.60
Bottas         @4.50
Raikkonen  @14.00
Verstappen @19.00
Ricciardo    @20.00
Massa       @250.00
Perez        @250.00

Slightly favored Hamilton on Vettel.
Interestingly, Raikkonen at [email protected], he came second place last year with a less powerful car than this year

After some time we have formula1 again my prediction is win on Ferrari for first race. Maybe RB can make surprise but hard to accomplish but with some good tactics this can happen.

It would be sure interesting for competition to see them do something 3 team in battle for win is more interesting then 2 of them fighting for win.
Somehow i have anticipated that Williams will do something with Mercedes engines but it only disappointing so far.

Let see how will first race in Europe will end up.

Finally the two week wait is over and we're back with an F1 weekend!  This is the part of the season where it all starts to become more interesting.  Basically it's the start of the European leg and, let's face it, the wins are more prestigous.

Will the Red Bulls finally close the gap with the Ferraris with their latest upgrades?  And what of Hamilton?  I hope we see him rejuvenated and ready to win races again.

2017 Spanish GP Time Table
All times are local (Spain is GMT +2)

Thursday 11 May
15:00: FIA press conference
16:00 – 18:30: Public pit lane walk for 3-day ticket holders only

Friday 12 May
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00: FIA press conference

Saturday 13 May
11:00 – 12:00: Third free practice
14:00 – 15:00: Qualifying
15:00: FIA post qualifying press conference

Sunday 14 May
13:00 – 13:15: Starting grid presentation
13:46: National anthem
14:00 – 16:00: Spanish GP
16:00: FIA post race press conference

It is good to see Pedrosa back when everyone had forgot about him. A good performance which maybe will make the gap wider regarding who will win the MotoGP 2017 Championship and the odds to bet on the four main drivers a bit better for us bettors. It was a beautiful race to watch as is the case almost always in Moto GP where overtaking is possible in every single track, much different than Formula 1. That is why I like more MotoGP comparing to F1.

i think four rider same chance to world champhionship this season
rossi, vinales, marques and pedrosa, but big chance still marques

Yeah, yesterday was a disastrous gp for yamaha. The next race in Le Mans has a track similar to Jerez. Yamaha has to solve its problems as soon as possible.

The only consolation for Valentino Rossi is to be the first in the standings:

1) Rossi        62     gap
2) Vinales     60      -2
3) Marquez   58      -4
4) Pedrosa    52     -10
5) Dovizioso  41     -21
6) Zarco        35    -27
7) Crutchlow  29    -33
7) Folger       29    -33
9) Lorenzo     28    -34
10) Petrucci   26     -36
10) Redding   26     -36

What a disaster for Yamaha factory team very poor tire choice for Rossi, and then he barely kept leading in championship he almost end up 11. As I said in my previous post watch out for Lorenzo he really done his good job on this track. In the end we have 3 Spanish drivers on podium this was and will remain to be Spanish track.

This is really spanish track we see on this race

1.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   45m   26.827s   
2.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   45m   32.963s   
3.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   45m   41.594s   
4.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   45m   44.428s   
5.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   45m   49.740s   
6.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   45m   51.383s   
7.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   45m   51.786s   
8.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   45m   54.548s   
9.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   45m   58.060s   
10.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   46m   5.509s   
11.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   46m   7.806s   
12.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   46m   10.026s   
13.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   46m   10.038s   
14.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   46m   14.791s   
15.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   46m   18.106s   
16.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   46m   35.712s   
17.   Takuya Tsuda   JPN   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   46m   54.277s   
Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   DNF   
Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   DNF   
Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   DNF   
Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   DNF   
Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   
Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   DNF   

WARM-UP:

1 M. VIÑALES    1:39.433
2 LORENZO        +0.000
3 CRUTCHLOW   +0.140
4 MILLER           +0.148
5 ESPARGARO    +0.300
6 A. BAUTISTA   +0.308
7 D. PEDROSA   +0.404
8 M. MARQUEZ  +0.419
9 S. REDDING   +0.434
10 V. ROSSI      +0.502

Still in trouble Valentino Rossi but he in the race always proves to solve everything.
 Lorenzo seems to have finally found the right feeling with his motorbike

Odds for winner :
- Marquez 2.34
- Dani Pedrosa 3.1
- Vinales 4.6
- Rossi 8
- Crutchlow 13
- Lorenzo 21

Nice odds for marquez, but I will take a risk to bet small amount on Rossi @8 and bigger amount on Marquez. Hope one of them win the race, but if others win it so I lose all my bets lol.

Today Marquez Day 

Full Qualifying results

1.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   38.249s   [Lap 6/7]   291km/h (Top Speed) 
2.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   38.298s    +0.049s   [8/8]   291km/h 
3.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   38.453s    +0.204s   [6/7]   291km/h 
4.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   38.677s    +0.428s   [3/7]   292km/h 
5.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   38.744s    +0.495s   [3/8]   291km/h 
6.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   38.861s    +0.612s   [6/8]   291km/h 
7.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   38.908s    +0.659s   [6/7]   290km/h 
8.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   38.910s    +0.661s   [6/8]   293km/h 
9.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   39.108s    +0.859s   [8/8]   291km/h 
10.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   39.125s    +0.876s   [3/8]   290km/h 
11.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   39.152s    +0.903s   [5/8]   292km/h 
12.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   39.400s    +1.151s   [2/5]   288km/h 
13.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   39.090s   290km/h   
14.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   39.255s   294km/h   
15.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   39.282s   294km/h   
16.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   39.321s   291km/h   
17.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   39.462s   291km/h   
18.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   39.564s   292km/h   
19.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   39.678s   294km/h   
20.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   39.824s   287km/h   
21.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   39.906s   293km/h   
22.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m   40.213s   287km/h   
23.   Takuya Tsuda   JPN   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   40.386s   287km/h   

Still we can debate all day and night history is that this is still Spanish track and more Spanish drivers won here, so i expect that some of the win here tomorrow as well.
Dont want to say that i wont be pleased if someone else win is would be good but from championship perspective image this scenario that Lorenzo wins on Ducati here, what would be then.

I was thinking on this and know that its almost impossible but it will make championship little more interesting if Lorenzo take win on Ducati.

If he already participated in the races on this track It's a victory in his hands. Only beginners feel uncomfortable on the new routes.

This track is usually good for Spanish drivers im thinking that someone from then will win but i would not underestimate yamaha duo in this race maybe old man Rossi can win.

There is an opinion that not all applicants can qualify, How do you think with what it may be related?

This is still practice times, but as i mentioned above Lorenzo might surprise us all, he really loves this track.
Will see after tomorrows qualifying session how will it be on the starting grid.
Expect to be hell of the race in Sunday.