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Quote from: Distraction on January 05, 2024, 02:18:17 PM

Red Bull have been reported to have started their works on their 2025 car already now. Yeah it sounds really crazy maybe but this is what they say. Grin

This means Red Bull will have a similar season next time probably. Verstappen would carry the team on his shoulders while making his way to another championship. I just wonder how many points Perez will be able to collect after making a brave speech about his next season performance.

Verstappen really admires Norris and Piastri both seemingly according to a recent statement of him. But both of these drivers really deserve to be admired because of being really talented.

I think it is a common thing to do.

Do you remember Mercedes 2 years ago? they failed the test with bad performance during the 1st week.
Back on days, we got 2 weeks of tests and during the second week, they used the new project car for mid/next season.

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Red Bull have been reported to have started their works on their 2025 car already now. Yeah it sounds really crazy maybe but this is what they say. Grin

This means Red Bull will have a similar season next time probably. Verstappen would carry the team on his shoulders while making his way to another championship. I just wonder how many points Perez will be able to collect after making a brave speech about his next season performance.

Verstappen really admires Norris and Piastri both seemingly according to a recent statement of him. But both of these drivers really deserve to be admired because of being really talented.

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ex boss of Alpine already cut off the team from the next world champions.

He said they can't compete with that engine.

So they are just working for 2026 with he new regulations.

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Quote from: Spack17 on January 02, 2024, 03:58:57 PM

I'm wondering another thing which is whether we would see Verstappen driving for another team in the future.

I mean that I'm pretty confident about one thing that he would drive for Red Bull until 2026. But as you must have heard the cars are going to get big changes in Formula 1. After this big changes we never know which car will be the fastest one. If Red Bull lose their dominance then Verstappen can look for his options probably. He should act wisely if he is targeting to break the title record before the end of his career. I would like to see him driving a Ferrari to be honest. Grin

But Ferrari must be much better than this in every way of course.

Why shall not we see it? In the end there isn't such thing like there is a strong bond between Verstappen and Red Bull. It is all about having the fastest car. When his car isn't the fastest one on the grid anymore he would probably start making plans for his future. He signaled that in one of his statements in an interview before.

Like you mentioned maybe it would happen after 2026 season starts. Verstappen is a very competitive driver even if he talks about himself like he doesn't have targets such as breaking a title record. He wouldn't like to drive a slower car than his opponents.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on December 31, 2023, 10:17:40 AM

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I also assume that the 2023 Ducatis will probably be just as fast as the 2024 models from KTM and Aprilia, the 2023 models also have the advantage that they already have available data from the track set-up, so they clearly have an advantage, but I hope KTM and Aprilia are currently doing a good job and can keep the 2023 Ducatis mostly behind them, but that won't be easy.

i also think that the 2023 ducati model is faster than the 2024 ktm and aprilia models, even when they have made improvements to the engine and additional testing allowed, which makes them at an advantage. but even so, it doesn't guarantee that they will be faster than the 2023 ducati model whose development is limited, because it's only on paper that they claim that their engine is better, but the 2023 ducati model has been well tested and has been proven capable of conquering various circuits.

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We have some dates for the new F1 cars.

Ferrari: 13 feb
Williams: 5 feb
Stake F1 Team: 5 feb

Nothine else for the moment.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on January 02, 2024, 08:02:46 AM

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Considering an accident can happen in a race I doubt RBR is okay with paying 40mil yearly to Max and taking the risk with his high salary.

That is of course an argument, but I don't even know if it would be possible with the busy Formula 1 calendar in 2024?

Do you know if RedBull is also a sponsor of the 24h race or also has its own team (but I don't think RedBull has its own team).

Le Mans is one of the most prestigious races in the whole world, as a single race it could be the most important and reputable race there ever was and I think that should definitely be something that Max should consider to do eventually.

However, I do not think the reason why he shouldn't race is because he is getting paid a lot or anything like that, if he wants to race he could, but I think the main reason why he shouldn't is because it happens during the season as far as I know, if I am not wrong then he shouldn't race anywhere else during the season. If he races during off-season, and gets back to racing when the season starts for F1 then you could consider that as training and not a bad way to spend your off-season for sure.

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I'm wondering another thing which is whether we would see Verstappen driving for another team in the future.

I mean that I'm pretty confident about one thing that he would drive for Red Bull until 2026. But as you must have heard the cars are going to get big changes in Formula 1. After this big changes we never know which car will be the fastest one. If Red Bull lose their dominance then Verstappen can look for his options probably. He should act wisely if he is targeting to break the title record before the end of his career. I would like to see him driving a Ferrari to be honest. Grin

But Ferrari must be much better than this in every way of course.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 31, 2023, 04:55:30 PM

Considering an accident can happen in a race I doubt RBR is okay with paying 40mil yearly to Max and taking the risk with his high salary.

That is of course an argument, but I don't even know if it would be possible with the busy Formula 1 calendar in 2024?

Do you know if RedBull is also a sponsor of the 24h race or also has its own team (but I don't think RedBull has its own team).

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 29, 2023, 11:51:05 AM

My personal prediction is that the ducats of 2023 will end ahead of the Aprilia of 2024 in the final leaderboard.

Your prediction might be correct because Aprilia has also been moving frequently in development and is no longer standing still like Asian manufacturers. So it could be quite possible for Aprilia to again create fiercer competition next season, but on the one hand I also see that KTM can sometimes be an obstacle for other manufacturers like last season.

Quote from: Koal-84 on December 30, 2023, 09:51:48 AM

That's not quite true, next season there will be a total of four groups, Group A, B, C and Group D.

Ducati is in Group A, KTM and Aprilia in Group C and the Japanese manufacturers in Group D.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/motogp-confirms-concession-plans-for-the-2024-season/10552831/

I haven't had time to read the news in the past few days so I still haven't separated all the manufacturers with their respective rankings based on their respective performance percentages. And I think what you said through the news is also more appropriate to use as a basic reference in making predictions for next season, because next season perhaps all manufacturers will make more changes in official test sessions.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on December 31, 2023, 04:47:16 PM

Why not? I think that would be a really good duo and with a proper team behind them and a good third driver, for example Raikkonen, that would even be a team with very good chances of winning. Why not if the Formula 1 calendar allows it?

Considering an accident can happen in a race I doubt RBR is okay with paying 40mil yearly to Max and taking the risk with his high salary.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 31, 2023, 03:46:25 PM

Side news.

Alonso asked to Max Verstappen to run with him the 24 hours of LeMans.

I don't think it will be next year, even if the 2 races should not overlap.

Why not? I think that would be a really good duo and with a proper team behind them and a good third driver, for example Raikkonen, that would even be a team with very good chances of winning. Why not if the Formula 1 calendar allows it?

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Side news.

Alonso asked to Max Verstappen to run with him the 24 hours of LeMans.

I don't think it will be next year, even if the 2 races should not overlap.

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Quote from: FanEagle on December 30, 2023, 04:08:51 PM

Red Bull has decided to push Perez to the end of the contract, he will be racing until 2026 apparently, or at least that is the decision they have taken this season, don't know if they will continue to do that next season as well, but for 2024 he stays.

It is bot ha great news but also a terrible news for Daniel Ricciardo as well, because it's terrible since he will not be going to Red Bull and going there would have been better for him, and yet it also means that he will not be on Max's shadow, and he doesn't have pressure on him and he got used to his car at AT for a while, so he could do very well this season. The fact is, if he does better than his teammate, he will be fine there, he is getting older anyway, so it would be fine to have a few more decent seasons, that's it.

It doesn't make big difference whether Red Bull have Sergio Perez or another driver at the moment honestly. Because they have a beast like Verstappen who can win nearly all of the races in a calendar. This is just an insane domination. Verstappen literally carried the team to the constructors title very easily by himself.

Even if Perez didn't collect any points in the whole season Red Bull were going to become the champions anyway. Cheesy

I expect pretty much the same performance from Verstappen next season as well.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on December 31, 2023, 10:17:40 AM

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My personal prediction is that the ducats of 2023 will end ahead of the Aprilia of 2024 in the final leaderboard.

I also assume that the 2023 Ducatis will probably be just as fast as the 2024 models from KTM and Aprilia, the 2023 models also have the advantage that they already have available data from the track set-up, so they clearly have an advantage, but I hope KTM and Aprilia are currently doing a good job and can keep the 2023 Ducatis mostly behind them, but that won't be easy.

That should be the case most likely as Aprilia has always been a weak bike in the premier class of MotoGp something I have never understood well as they make some pretty awesome bikes in the lower classes of 125 and 250 cc.Ducati on the other side has been a good bike in the premier class and that is why I also think that Aprilia will be behind even against a 2023 Ducati in this upcoming 2024 MotoGp season.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 29, 2023, 11:51:05 AM

My personal prediction is that the ducats of 2023 will end ahead of the Aprilia of 2024 in the final leaderboard.

I also assume that the 2023 Ducatis will probably be just as fast as the 2024 models from KTM and Aprilia, the 2023 models also have the advantage that they already have available data from the track set-up, so they clearly have an advantage, but I hope KTM and Aprilia are currently doing a good job and can keep the 2023 Ducatis mostly behind them, but that won't be easy.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 30, 2023, 07:59:22 PM

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Red Bull has decided to push Perez to the end of the contract, he will be racing until 2026 apparently, or at least that is the decision they have taken this season, don't know if they will continue to do that next season as well, but for 2024 he stays.

It is bot ha great news but also a terrible news for Daniel Ricciardo as well, because it's terrible since he will not be going to Red Bull and going there would have been better for him, and yet it also means that he will not be on Max's shadow, and he doesn't have pressure on him and he got used to his car at AT for a while, so he could do very well this season. The fact is, if he does better than his teammate, he will be fine there, he is getting older anyway, so it would be fine to have a few more decent seasons, that's it.

I think that the only possible way for him to stay until 2026 is to have RBR dominate for the other 2 years.

If someone will catch them, he will be benched.

@coinlocket$ it makes sense that they’re retaining him for now because his presence will ensure that Max will always know he has to step up or he’ll be beaten by him. Furthermore I also liked the dynamics between these two last season and I feel that Red Bull doesn’t want to change the winning combination so it’ll be interesting to see if they both can continue to dominate like they did in the last season.

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Quote from: FanEagle on December 30, 2023, 04:08:51 PM

Red Bull has decided to push Perez to the end of the contract, he will be racing until 2026 apparently, or at least that is the decision they have taken this season, don't know if they will continue to do that next season as well, but for 2024 he stays.

It is bot ha great news but also a terrible news for Daniel Ricciardo as well, because it's terrible since he will not be going to Red Bull and going there would have been better for him, and yet it also means that he will not be on Max's shadow, and he doesn't have pressure on him and he got used to his car at AT for a while, so he could do very well this season. The fact is, if he does better than his teammate, he will be fine there, he is getting older anyway, so it would be fine to have a few more decent seasons, that's it.

This 2023 season saw an unexpected return in Daniel Ricciardo.... after he left McLaren at the end of 2022, the Australian seemed destined to spend the year as a reserve, but gained an opportunity at AlphaTauri after the team replaced Nyck de Vries on account of the poor results in the first half of the championship.

The problem is that Sergio Pérez's poor performance at Red Bull, the most powerful team in the group, meant that Ricciardo's name was also speculated about a possible promotion for 2024 or even 2025, even though the Mexican is still under contract and honestly I believed that this would happen, I still don't understand why they actually decided to go with Perez.

Anyway, this must be an "ultimatum" for Sergio Pérez and I hope Ricciardo doesn't lose hope of racing for Red Bull again.

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Quote from: FanEagle on December 30, 2023, 04:08:51 PM

Red Bull has decided to push Perez to the end of the contract, he will be racing until 2026 apparently, or at least that is the decision they have taken this season, don't know if they will continue to do that next season as well, but for 2024 he stays.

It is bot ha great news but also a terrible news for Daniel Ricciardo as well, because it's terrible since he will not be going to Red Bull and going there would have been better for him, and yet it also means that he will not be on Max's shadow, and he doesn't have pressure on him and he got used to his car at AT for a while, so he could do very well this season. The fact is, if he does better than his teammate, he will be fine there, he is getting older anyway, so it would be fine to have a few more decent seasons, that's it.

I think that the only possible way for him to stay until 2026 is to have RBR dominate for the other 2 years.

If someone will catch them, he will be benched.

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Red Bull has decided to push Perez to the end of the contract, he will be racing until 2026 apparently, or at least that is the decision they have taken this season, don't know if they will continue to do that next season as well, but for 2024 he stays.

It is bot ha great news but also a terrible news for Daniel Ricciardo as well, because it's terrible since he will not be going to Red Bull and going there would have been better for him, and yet it also means that he will not be on Max's shadow, and he doesn't have pressure on him and he got used to his car at AT for a while, so he could do very well this season. The fact is, if he does better than his teammate, he will be fine there, he is getting older anyway, so it would be fine to have a few more decent seasons, that's it.

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