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It is not yet official but Ferrari has said in a communication that Sainz should be able to participate in this week's Grand Prix in Australia.

However, Bearman is with the team and will take his place if needed.

The team manager also spoke and declared that Ferrari will adopt a very aggressive strategy this week, will they be able to fight with Max?
Ferrari historically does well on this track.
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I read that the reason why Ducatis bikes are generally faster for the last few seasons is because they've been developing aerodynamic tech to compete with other manufacturers[1]. Not sure how true that is, but at the very least they seem to put more focus on that front based on what I've read so far. Makes sense for them to do it though, especially if other aspects have been heavily optimized based on decades of racing data. On the other hand, this trend seems to be frowned upon and some are suggesting there should be a new rule to limit how far manufacturers can modify their bike to gain aerodynamic advantage.

[1] https://www.the-race.com/motogp/ducati-radical-motogp-aero-2024/
This is indeed true and the Ducati manufacturer was the first manufacturer to introduce this in MotoGP, so that other manufacturers followed suit after seeing the speed of Ducati motorbikes which had developed quite well in the last few seasons and succeeded in making them world champions in the last two seasons. Even though other parties don't like this because it may not look very good in their eyes and it can also take away from the beauty of the motorbike in general, what every MotoGP manufacturer is looking for now is the speed and stability of their motorbike so they can win in each series. So this is indeed true and was born from Ducati before other manufacturers followed suit like now.
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More speculation for Redbull in case Horner does everything by buying the team.

The driver and engineer market could change F1 and 2025 quite a bit.
If Horner will manage to buy the team, the chosen driver would be Alex Albon to replace Max Verstappen for 2025.

It is no coincidence that rumors have come out with Mercedes, based on Jos Verstappen's talks with Toto Wolff.
Aston Martin is also trying for it since it could be bought by Aramco.

Aston is also trying with Adrian Newy but Ferrari seems to be ahead in this negotiation.
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those who suggest limiting the developments that have been made by other manufacturers have of course admitted their inability to be able to compete with the developments made by the Ducati manufacturer.
Some fans also have the same belief though. If I remember correctly, the reasoning is that it makes the race less entertaining since it is difficult to overtake if the rider has an aerodynamic advantage. Not sure how true this is, since I don't watch MotoGP that often nowadays. I find it hard to believe though, I think the safety reason is more believable (more aerodynamic spots reduce the bike strength, etc). Let's see if anything changes next season, hopefully, it will still be a competitive sport instead of one manufacturer winning everything easily.
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This source named Sportskeeda claims that Aramco wants to buy Aston Martin and bring Max Verstappen - Adrian Newey both to play bigger to achieve championships.  Smiley



As you know Aramco is a Saudi Arabian oil and natural gas company. They want to do more in F1 than just sponsoring Aston Martin. If this deal really comes true then I would be really excited about what comes next.  Smiley

There is no such thing like Verstappen wouldn't leave Red Bull in the near future. As long as Aston Martin offers better conditions to him for the future I think Verstappen would seriously think of joining them.
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Because Ducati motorbikes are currently very difficult for other manufacturers to stop, even though KTM could also be a threat this season.
I read that the reason why Ducatis bikes are generally faster for the last few seasons is because they've been developing aerodynamic tech to compete with other manufacturers[1]. Not sure how true that is, but at the very least they seem to put more focus on that front based on what I've read so far. Makes sense for them to do it though, especially if other aspects have been heavily optimized based on decades of racing data. On the other hand, this trend seems to be frowned upon and some are suggesting there should be a new rule to limit how far manufacturers can modify their bike to gain aerodynamic advantage.

[1] https://www.the-race.com/motogp/ducati-radical-motogp-aero-2024/
Yes, in terms of aero technology, the Ducati manufacturer is a manufacturer that has experienced very good development and no other manufacturer can compete and currently we can see that other manufacturers are continuing to try to develop their aero devices to be able to compete with Ducati's dominance and in last week's race they could We see that the KTM manufacturer has been able to compete on straight tracks with Ducati, those who suggest limiting the developments that have been made by other manufacturers have of course admitted their inability to be able to compete with the developments made by the Ducati manufacturer.
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Because Ducati motorbikes are currently very difficult for other manufacturers to stop, even though KTM could also be a threat this season.
I read that the reason why Ducatis bikes are generally faster for the last few seasons is because they've been developing aerodynamic tech to compete with other manufacturers[1]. Not sure how true that is, but at the very least they seem to put more focus on that front based on what I've read so far. Makes sense for them to do it though, especially if other aspects have been heavily optimized based on decades of racing data. On the other hand, this trend seems to be frowned upon and some are suggesting there should be a new rule to limit how far manufacturers can modify their bike to gain aerodynamic advantage.

[1] https://www.the-race.com/motogp/ducati-radical-motogp-aero-2024/
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^  I think with Horner's contract at Red Bull expiring at the end of 2026 and Verstappen's contract expiring at 2028, there's really nothing both camps could do if Red Bull doesn't allow them to leave right?  Between Horner's camp and Verstappen's camp, I think the more likely to be given to boot is Verstappen.  And I do I mean I think...  So if anybody tells me I'm wrong then I wouldn't take it against them.  :/

I do hope Horner is given the boot tho and he goes to Ferrari.  Horner, Newey and Hamilton with the Prancing Horse would be the most ideal 2025 season for me.  Please F1 gods, make it happen.
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More progress on the Redbull issue.
Horner has just been reported to the ethics commission from the girl.
I think the best possible scenario for him at the moment is a suspension.
At the moment he appears to be firmly in his position while the girl appears to be suspended from Redbull.

Things are getting more complicated at Red Bull when there are new details about the contracts risen to the surface. It looks like there is a condition about Helmut Marko - Verstappen similar to Christian Horner - Adrian Newey. I mean if one of Marko and Verstappen leaves Red Bull the other one is also doing so because of having such term on their contracts.  Smiley

This means Red Bull could be affected substantially in case departures start to be seen among these people. This could cause Red Bull to lose their dominant look even next season.



We are in a new race week, Australia GP! I have missed F1 after a break of one week. The last winner here was Verstappen and I don't expect this to change this year either. Maybe we might see another VER - PER - LEC podium.  Grin
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This weekend, MotoGP will return to Portimao, which is located in Portugal, and from the shape of the circuit and the current development of MotoGP motorbikes, I think there will be fierce racing there. Moreover, home riders like Miguel Oliveira also often get very good times there, although I am still quite confident that the Ducati riders will still dominate the race on Saturday and Sunday. Because Ducati motorbikes are currently very difficult for other manufacturers to stop, even though KTM could also be a threat this season.
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News of the day:
Alpine is going so bad that it is rumored that they leave F1 from next year according to Jordan.

we also have some news regarding the next grand prix.
The weather forecast for the race is sunny but wet tests are expected, even in qualifying the possibility of rain is not excluded.

Nothing is known yet about Sainz, he will probably leave for Australia and if he doesn't receive the OK from the doctors it will be the second time for the young Bearman driving Ferrari.
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More progress on the Redbull issue.
Horner has just been reported to the ethics commission from the girl.
I think the best possible scenario for him at the moment is a suspension.
At the moment he appears to be firmly in his position while the girl appears to be suspended from Redbull.

Red Bull will use everything in their power to protect Horner.  If there are signs that Red Bull will support the girl because of Jos Verstappen then this affects Newey and they're season.  I really do hope they suspend Horner so we see him get fed up and go to Ferrari with Newey.  It will be a new look for F1 and a welcome one as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway Australian GP is next!  This is where the new season really starts!

2024 F1 Australian GP Schedule
Track:  Albert Park Circuit, Melbourne



March 22:  Practice 1  12:30 - 13:30
March 22:  Practice 2  16:00 - 17:00
March 23:  Practice 3  12:30 - 13:30
March 23:  Qualifying  16:00 - 17:00
March 24:  Race  15:00
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The red-bull case is not over yet.
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As far as I know, the Thai majority owner is behind Marko and Horner, and he still has the final say. When Mateschitz was still alive he didn't interfere at all, but apparently he doesn't want to have internal disputes, so I assume he will have the last word.

It will be interesting to see how the decision turns out.
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More progress on the Redbull issue.
Horner has just been reported to the ethics commission from the girl.
I think the best possible scenario for him at the moment is a suspension.
At the moment he appears to be firmly in his position while the girl appears to be suspended from Redbull.

Of course the girl cannot really expect that she to be given the right against the top principal of the Redbull team.I also think that Horner should stay in Redbull and this should be sorted outside of F1 circus.I know the soap opera is always wanted especially in a sport like this that rarely happen such things people would love to see such drama.

The suspension of the girl from Redbull I am assuming that is a good move as Redbull as a team needs to be focused,most people would not agree with this but I think it is the right move so the girl moves out of the equation and the season continues normally.
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More progress on the Redbull issue.
Horner has just been reported to the ethics commission from the girl.
I think the best possible scenario for him at the moment is a suspension.
At the moment he appears to be firmly in his position while the girl appears to be suspended from Redbull.
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So I've been thinking...  With Hamilton going to Ferrari and taking Sainz spot, who you guys think will take Hamilton's drive at Mercedes..?  Sainz?  There are also words going around that Toto Wolff wants Fernando Alonso paired up with Russell as it's a name that's known in F1 that's worthy to replace Hamilton.  If so then I guess Sainz goes to Aston Martin..?  Better yet, Sainz goes back to Red Bull and Perez goes back to Aston Martin which originally was Force India.  I wouldn't mind if it came out like that tbh.  All solid drivers getting good seats.

In other news it looks like Ferrari are looking to tempt a couple of Red Bull's enginners who are specializing in aerodynamics away and work for them. 

Who would not want to tempt winners?I have seen it first hand in our daily life,when you achieve something in your career you see Linkedin offers coming to you right away,the same in every business,once you affirm yourself as a winner most likely other good teams will come looking after you with better job offers.I would also love to see the same moves of such drivers as this would mean better competition in the years to come.

Not saying there's anything wrong with it.  Lol.  I'm just saying it's happening and if that's really going on then I wouldn't take it against them if they go after the best CTO in F1...  And that's Adrian Newey.  And where Newey goes, Horner goes and it works the other way around too.  Newey won't work with any other team principal and Horner won't work with any other CTO.  Not at this point of their careers.  And if ever that happens there's one guy to blame and that' Jos Verstappen.

And you know what, I really hope it happens.  I wanna see Hamilton win his next title with Ferrari and with Horner and Newey behind him.
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So I've been thinking...  With Hamilton going to Ferrari and taking Sainz spot, who you guys think will take Hamilton's drive at Mercedes..?  Sainz?  There are also words going around that Toto Wolff wants Fernando Alonso paired up with Russell as it's a name that's known in F1 that's worthy to replace Hamilton.  If so then I guess Sainz goes to Aston Martin..?  Better yet, Sainz goes back to Red Bull and Perez goes back to Aston Martin which originally was Force India.  I wouldn't mind if it came out like that tbh.  All solid drivers getting good seats.

In other news it looks like Ferrari are looking to tempt a couple of Red Bull's enginners who are specializing in aerodynamics away and work for them. 

Sainz is one of the rumoured drivers to take Hamilton's seat at Merecedes lately yeah. However Sainz's condition is really complicated also. You know Audi are planning to enter Formula 1 by 2026 season. Probably Sainz will be one of their drivers as it has been said for a long while. In this case will Sainz drive for Mercedes for only a year?  Smiley

If Mercedes don't plan to make a long-term signing then there is no problem. They would plan to make Russell their main driver I guess.

I thought about Mick Schumacher beside Russell also but if I were in their place I would prioritize drivers like Sainz who could potentially bring more points.  Smiley
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The red-bull case is not over yet.
The woman who is interested has changed lawyers and will appeal in the next few days.
The investigation has been going on for months even though it was only made public a few weeks ago.
In case Horner is suspended Marko will probably leave the team. In addition to this, there is a release clause for Adrian Newvy in the case of Horner being sacked.

And not only that, the most important part: Verstappen has already stated that he will leave in case Marko leaves the team.
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Sainz had a pretty major surgery, it is not something you just get up from in a week and race, he should be resting. This is probably one of the worst things that could happen to him, not only because he got a surgery which is always a bad thing and nobody would want that but considering he is a millionaire and he is taken care of at the best hospitals with best doctors and care, I feel like that part is not the worst part.

The worst part is that he needs to show the world what he can do, and while it doesn't matter what he does in a few races, it is also important that he needs to show what he can at the end of the season. So, ending up above Charles means more to him than ending up above Sainz means to Charles. With Hamilton taking his spot, he will want another spot, and that's a tough situation right now.
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So I've been thinking...  With Hamilton going to Ferrari and taking Sainz spot, who you guys think will take Hamilton's drive at Mercedes..?  Sainz?  There are also words going around that Toto Wolff wants Fernando Alonso paired up with Russell as it's a name that's known in F1 that's worthy to replace Hamilton.  If so then I guess Sainz goes to Aston Martin..?  Better yet, Sainz goes back to Red Bull and Perez goes back to Aston Martin which originally was Force India.  I wouldn't mind if it came out like that tbh.  All solid drivers getting good seats.

In other news it looks like Ferrari are looking to tempt a couple of Red Bull's enginners who are specializing in aerodynamics away and work for them. 

Who would not want to tempt winners?I have seen it first hand in our daily life,when you achieve something in your career you see Linkedin offers coming to you right away,the same in every business,once you affirm yourself as a winner most likely other good teams will come looking after you with better job offers.I would also love to see the same moves of such drivers as this would mean better competition in the years to come.
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