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August 12, 2013, 01:14:10 PM
Can anyone confirm this conversation?  If this is true, then we need to escalate this to a major news source.  Gox needs to be outed for the fraud that it really is.
I can confirm it - it's on my screen now in the #mtgox channel on freenode.

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[07:40] MagicalTux, people in this forum are saying they are going to go to SEC over not receiving money
[07:40] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.500
[07:41] [ MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] ]<br />[07:41] <DBordello> MagicalTux, that would be great.  I am sure it'd help reduce the load<br />[07:42] <cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />[07:42] <@MagicalTux> cyro432: not much we can do right now because of US govt<br />[07:44] * torment has joined #mtgox<br />[07:49] * sheldonthomas has joined #mtgox<br />[07:53] <phantomcircuit> cyro432, irony of ironies going to the us gov to fix a problem they largely created<br /><br />The differences in time shown here are due to the IRC program displaying local time. My timezone is GMT+7, Bangkok time.<br /></div>Whoa, alright time to hit up some media contacts everyone!  <br /></div>I don't get it.  What is new here?  The Dwolla seizure has been known for a while.  Have you been living in a cave for the last three months? </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/manfred-80952" title="Profile of manfred">manfred</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 966</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1001</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_80952.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of manfred"> </div> <div class="description">Energy is Wealth</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/manfred-80952" title="Profile of manfred"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2918670"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2918670">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 01:12:02 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2918670">#566</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2916856">Quote from: TimJBenham on August 12, 2013, 07:59:43 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">It's not MtGox's fault! They are just a completely innocent victim of US govt! <br /><br />REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL <a class="ul" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro</a><br /><br />02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br />This cyro432 needs to get out more. I am aware of a delayed wire transfer that is over 8 weeks old: mine.<br /></div><br />People waiting over 4 Months for EUR withdrawal. <br /><a class="ul" href="/topic/m.2909636">https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2909636</a> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/zeroblock-112989" title="Profile of zeroblock">zeroblock</a> </div> <div class="position">full member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 238</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 100</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/zeroblock-112989" title="Profile of zeroblock"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2918624"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2918624">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 01:03:02 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2918624">#565</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2918333">Quote from: samson on August 12, 2013, 12:19:30 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2918139">Quote from: zeroblock on August 12, 2013, 11:51:52 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2916856">Quote from: TimJBenham on August 12, 2013, 07:59:43 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">It's not MtGox's fault! They are just a completely innocent victim of US govt! <br /><br />REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL <a class="ul" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro</a><br /><br />02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br />This cyro432 needs to get out more. I am aware of a delayed wire transfer that is over 8 weeks old: mine.<br /></div><br />Can anyone confirm this conversation?  If this is true, then we need to escalate this to a major news source.  Gox needs to be outed for the fraud that it really is. <br /></div><br />I can confirm it - it's on my screen now in the #mtgox channel on freenode.<br /><br />[07:40] * cyro432 has joined #mtgox<br />[07:40] <cyro432> MagicalTux, people in this forum are saying they are going to go to SEC over not receiving money<br />[07:40] <cyro432> <a class="ul" href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.500" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.500</a><br />[07:41] <Title> [ MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] ]<br />[07:41] <DBordello> MagicalTux, that would be great.  I am sure it'd help reduce the load<br />[07:42] <cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />[07:42] <@MagicalTux> cyro432: not much we can do right now because of US govt<br />[07:44] * torment has joined #mtgox<br />[07:49] * sheldonthomas has joined #mtgox<br />[07:53] <phantomcircuit> cyro432, irony of ironies going to the us gov to fix a problem they largely created<br /><br />The differences in time shown here are due to the IRC program displaying local time. My timezone is GMT+7, Bangkok time.<br /></div><br />Whoa, alright time to hit up some media contacts everyone!  </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/ban-curtain-74661" title="Profile of Ban Curtain">Ban Curtain</a> </div> <div class="position">member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 63</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 10</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/ban-curtain-74661" title="Profile of Ban Curtain"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2918597"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2918597">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 12:58:32 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2918597">#564</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> Seems that my experience is already outdated.<br />I have problems with withdraw of bitcoins. <br />Web site writes me that bitcoin address where I trying to send money to is invalid ("Invalid bitcoin address, please confirm your input"), I  tried 3 addresses - the same error (I used the same address as used before ).<br />No support in chat, i hope they'll response me by email.<br /><br />Very suspicious that they stopped to withdraw bitcoins... <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/ban-curtain-74661" title="Profile of Ban Curtain">Ban Curtain</a> </div> <div class="position">member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 63</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 10</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/ban-curtain-74661" title="Profile of Ban Curtain"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2918526"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2918526">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 12:47:16 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2918526">#563</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> hehe, gox still have problems with withdraws...<br />about month ago I've contacted their support and they canceled my withdrawal (they returned money to mtgox account), I converted them into btcs and withdrawn.<br /><br />So I think that problem is not in lack of money in mtgox but in law restrictions.<br /><br />Modern financial laws are too totalitarian) </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/samson-63337" title="Profile of samson">samson</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 2097</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1070</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/samson-63337" title="Profile of samson"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2918333"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2918333">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 12:19:30 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2918333">#562</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2918139">Quote from: zeroblock on August 12, 2013, 11:51:52 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2916856">Quote from: TimJBenham on August 12, 2013, 07:59:43 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">It's not MtGox's fault! They are just a completely innocent victim of US govt! <br /><br />REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL <a class="ul" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro</a><br /><br />02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br />This cyro432 needs to get out more. I am aware of a delayed wire transfer that is over 8 weeks old: mine.<br /></div><br />Can anyone confirm this conversation?  If this is true, then we need to escalate this to a major news source.  Gox needs to be outed for the fraud that it really is. <br /></div><br />I can confirm it - it's on my screen now in the #mtgox channel on freenode.<br /><br />[07:40] * cyro432 has joined #mtgox<br />[07:40] <cyro432> MagicalTux, people in this forum are saying they are going to go to SEC over not receiving money<br />[07:40] <cyro432> <a class="ul" href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.500" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.500</a><br />[07:41] <Title> [ MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] ]<br />[07:41] <DBordello> MagicalTux, that would be great.  I am sure it'd help reduce the load<br />[07:42] <cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />[07:42] <@MagicalTux> cyro432: not much we can do right now because of US govt<br />[07:44] * torment has joined #mtgox<br />[07:49] * sheldonthomas has joined #mtgox<br />[07:53] <phantomcircuit> cyro432, irony of ironies going to the us gov to fix a problem they largely created<br /><br />The differences in time shown here are due to the IRC program displaying local time. My timezone is GMT+7, Bangkok time. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/zeroblock-112989" title="Profile of zeroblock">zeroblock</a> </div> <div class="position">full member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 238</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 100</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/zeroblock-112989" title="Profile of zeroblock"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2918139"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2918139">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 11:51:52 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2918139">#561</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2916856">Quote from: TimJBenham on August 12, 2013, 07:59:43 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">It's not MtGox's fault! They are just a completely innocent victim of US govt! <br /><br />REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL <a class="ul" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro</a><br /><br />02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br />This cyro432 needs to get out more. I am aware of a delayed wire transfer that is over 8 weeks old: mine.<br /></div><br />Can anyone confirm this conversation?  If this is true, then we need to escalate this to a major news source.  Gox needs to be outed for the fraud that it really is. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/timjbenham-80766" title="Profile of TimJBenham">TimJBenham</a> </div> <div class="position">sr. member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 280</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 250</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/timjbenham-80766" title="Profile of TimJBenham"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2916856"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2916856">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 07:59:43 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2916856">#560</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">It's not MtGox's fault! They are just a completely innocent victim of US govt! <br /><br />REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL <a class="ul" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro</a><br /><br />02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br />This cyro432 needs to get out more. I am aware of a delayed wire transfer that is over 8 weeks old: mine. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/sturle-1876" title="Profile of sturle">sturle</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1437</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1002</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description">https://bitmynt.no</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/sturle-1876" title="Profile of sturle"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2916477"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2916477">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 06:12:11 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2916477">#559</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2915417">Quote from: Nagle on August 12, 2013, 01:46:25 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div>it's the first time I've seen MtGox basically say "Well, it's really not our bank that has limits, it's the US Government who somehow prevents us from sending out USD withdraws". I also think it's important to document the various stories / explanations as they come/change. <br /></div>Eh?  I read: Due to the US government regarding MtGox a threat to their homeland security, we are unable to process the bulk of our USD transfers via Dwolla like we used to.  This fact has been known for a while.  There is no word there about banks, and no news. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/joesmoe2012-86594" title="Profile of joesmoe2012">joesmoe2012</a> </div> <div class="position">hero member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 882</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 501</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_86594.gif" alt="" title="Profile photo of joesmoe2012"> </div> <div class="description">Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/joesmoe2012-86594" title="Profile of joesmoe2012"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2915778"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2915778">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 03:12:29 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2915778">#558</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> Still no sign of my japanese domestic wire that went out thursday. <br /><br />So far I've got a bunch of pending USD wires to USA (since june 17th).<br /><br />I have pending SEPA transfers to Poland (one 100 EUR test transfer went through in one day, but the larger transfers have been waiting weeks now). <br /><br />I have several pending SWIFT transfers of GBP and EUR to Polish and US accounts.<br /><br />I have a pending domestic PLN transfer from MtGox's polish accounts to my polish account (this should be nearly instant). <br /><br /><br />The US govt should have absolutely nothing to do with receiving a domestic polish transfer (gox has holding accounts with a polish bank) nor should the US govt have any impact on mtgox's ability to make a domestic japanese transfer. <br /><br />If this is the only empire we can have, i'm not so sure i'm interested. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/justusranvier-14492" title="Profile of justusranvier">justusranvier</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1400</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1013</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_14492.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of justusranvier"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/justusranvier-14492" title="Profile of justusranvier"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2915723"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2915723">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 02:58:20 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2915723">#557</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> I don't think that Mt Gox has lost customer funds, based on conversations I've had with the operator of a business that has worked closely with them. I think the delays are entirely caused by US banks and financial regulators making life difficult for them and their partner bank.<br /><br />On the other hand, I have no way of independently verifying the information I've received and no one reading this has any reason to believe me. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/nagle-28488" title="Profile of Nagle">Nagle</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1204</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1002</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/nagle-28488" title="Profile of Nagle"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2915417"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2915417">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 01:46:25 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2915417">#556</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br />At this point, you have to assume that any statement from Mt. Gox is a lie. They've been issuing contradictory excuses for two months now. <br /><br />It's time to ask the US SEC and the Japan Financial Services Agency to take action to audit Mt. Gox, and shut them down and arrest their management if customer funds are missing. That will prevent the people behind Mt. Gox from running off with the assets. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/solex-77773" title="Profile of solex">solex</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1078</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1006</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_77773.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of solex"> </div> <div class="description">100 satoshis -> ISO code</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/solex-77773" title="Profile of solex"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2915228"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2915228">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 12, 2013, 01:00:35 AM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2915228">#555</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="#?">Quote from: ?? on ??</a></div><div class="quote">It's not MtGox's fault! They are just a completely innocent victim of US govt! <br /><br />REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL <a class="ul" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro</a><br /><br />02:42 < cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old<br />02:42 <@MagicalTux> cyro432: <b>not much we can do right now because of US govt</b><br /></div><br /><img class="userimg" src="https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus.cdn4.123rf.com%2F168nwm%2Fstuartphoto%2Fstuartphoto1302%2Fstuartphoto130200133%2F18039778-time-for-truth-message-showing-honest-and-true.jpg&t=637&c=dE66jv_TsE0LoA" alt="" border="0" /><br /> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/bkava-143390" title="Profile of bkava">bkava</a> </div> <div class="position">newbie</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img 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bank accounts could comment here on the amounts (approx) and delays on their withdrawals. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/sturle-1876" title="Profile of sturle">sturle</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1437</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1002</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description">https://bitmynt.no</div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/sturle-1876" title="Profile of sturle"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2913151"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2913151">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 11, 2013, 05:28:46 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2913151">#553</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2912693">Quote from: Grinder on August 11, 2013, 04:18:36 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2912129">Quote from: sturle on August 11, 2013, 02:52:53 PM</a></div><div class="quote">Why do you think the U.S. government have any interest in solving the problem after all they've done to create it?  If you are an enemy of Bitcoin and want to make trouble for alternative exchanges as well, SEC is the way.  Bitstamp can be closed any time due to obvious breach of an EU directive.  Bitfinex do their trading at Bitstamp and will go down the same drain.  What are we left with then?  Do you want to trust your money with BTC-E?  An exchange in China, perhaps?<br /></div>Everybody should keep quiet about the emperor having no clothes, because it's the only one we've got?<br /></div>Read again. </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/minerlt-70748" title="Profile of MinerLT">MinerLT</a> </div> <div class="position">full member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 194</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 100</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_70748.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of MinerLT"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/minerlt-70748" title="Profile of MinerLT"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img 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<div class="position">full member</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> <img src="/images/user_position/star.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 194</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 100</div> <div class="avatar"> <img src="https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_70748.png" alt="" title="Profile photo of MinerLT"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/minerlt-70748" title="Profile of MinerLT"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2912796"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2912796">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 11, 2013, 04:35:42 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2912796">#550</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> how long time took from mtgox to okpay? anyone know? </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div class="item-content"> <div class="user-data"> <div class="username"> <a href="/user/grinder-4527" title="Profile of Grinder">Grinder</a> </div> <div class="position">legendary</div> <div class="position-coins"> <img src="/images/user_position/legendary.gif" alt="" title="Legendary level"> </div> <div class="activity">Activity: 1284</div> <div class="merit">Merit: 1001</div> <div class="avatar"> </div> <div class="description"></div> <div class="view-profile"> <a href="/user/grinder-4527" title="Profile of Grinder"><img src="/images/profile_sm.gif" alt=""></a> </div> </div> <div class="message-data"> <div class="header clearfix"> <div class="icon"> <img src="/images/xx.gif" alt=""> </div> <div class="title-wrapper"> <div class="title"> <a name="msg2912693"></a> <a href="/topic/m.2912693">Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]</a> </div> <div class="date">August 11, 2013, 04:18:36 PM</div> </div> <div class="item-number text-right"> <a href="/topic/m.2912693">#549</a> </div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2912129">Quote from: sturle on August 11, 2013, 02:52:53 PM</a></div><div class="quote">Why do you think the U.S. government have any interest in solving the problem after all they've done to create it?  If you are an enemy of Bitcoin and want to make trouble for alternative exchanges as well, SEC is the way.  Bitstamp can be closed any time due to obvious breach of an EU directive.  Bitfinex do their trading at Bitstamp and will go down the same drain.  What are we left with then?  Do you want to trust your money with BTC-E?  An exchange in China, perhaps?<br /></div>Everybody should keep quiet about the emperor having no clothes, because it's the only one we've got? </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="item clearfix"> <div 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</div> </div> <div class="content"> <div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2906935">Quote from: CurbsideProphet on August 10, 2013, 04:37:02 PM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2898345">Quote from: S3052 on August 09, 2013, 09:44:17 AM</a></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote-header"><a href="/topic/m.2898063">Quote from: sturle on August 09, 2013, 08:53:07 AM</a></div><div class="quote">I and other customers would be grateful if you could wait until their banking problems are solved.  If it isn't helping, don't.<br /></div>Well, if the consensus is that it won't help the majority of bitcoiners , I will hold off with the complaint.<br /></div>I don't see a consensus, I see one person trying to speak for the whole.  I would file a complaint with the SEC if I were you.  I would do it myself if I had any funds with MtGox but I saw this coming before the Dwolla shutdown. <br /></div>So you are not a customer.  You are not entitled to vote.<br /><br />Why do you think the U.S. government have any interest in solving the problem after all they've done to create it?  If you are an enemy of Bitcoin and want to make trouble for alternative exchanges as well, SEC is the way.  Bitstamp can be closed any time due to obvious breach of an EU directive.  Bitfinex do their trading at Bitstamp and will go down the same drain.  What are we left with then?  Do you want to trust your money with BTC-E?  An exchange in China, perhaps? </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="pagination-wrapper"> <span class="pages-text ">Pages:</span> <ul class="pagination"><li class="prev"><a href="/topic/mtgox-withdrawal-delays-gathering-179586/319-page.html" data-page="318">«</a></li> <li><a href="/topic/mtgox-withdrawal-delays-gathering-179586/315-page.html" data-page="314">315</a></li> <li><a href="/topic/mtgox-withdrawal-delays-gathering-179586/316-page.html" data-page="315">316</a></li> <li><a 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