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sr. member
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March 05, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
Has anyone called to MtGox and asked when it will be possible to return the money?

The phone line is set up because of legal demands under Japanese law. They don't actually process anything or offer any service on that phone number.

A: You can wait and see if Gox becomes reconstructed and you wil be paied in shares?

B: You can join some of the class action lawsuits being launched and possibly get a % back in years.

C: You can camp outside his mother's home in France with a bill board, with a tipping address and hope world media will pick it up and donations will make you good.
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
March 05, 2014, 08:02:13 AM
Only... they are anonymous, so sueing them might be much more complicated.
Which also means they are more likely to just grab any funds they still have and run.

Excuse me, who is anonymous? Are you talking about Bitstamp? Their management has always been very public:

https://twitter.com/nejc_kodric
http://www.crunchbase.com/person/nejc-kodric
http://si.linkedin.com/pub/nejc-kodri%C4%8D/47/227/299
http://si.linkedin.com/pub/damijan-merlak/16/667/4a9?trk=pub-pbmap

Plus you can find other Bitstamp employees on Linkedin just by searching "Bitstamp" with no problem. I really don't know where does this myth about Bitstamp being "anonymous" comes from, Coindesk always mentions Nejc when writes about Stamp, Nejc has a btctalk account under his real name which he used to post about his company when he founded it, when you open a ticket on Stamp the support agent always signs the reply with his first+last name...

And for Christ sake you just need to google "Bitstamp CEO" to find dozens (if not hundreds) of links about Nejc Kodric.
Sorry, my bad.
They are "privacy protected" in the whois, so I just believed when someone else also told me they were anonymous.
No clue why they have a hidden whois if their name are indeed known, it's just free bad publicity for them which they shouldn't deserve.

(that being said, their "hand out your documents or we'll keep your funds" without any email warning has been quite an assy move...)


I live near Bitstamp (10 min away walking), I visited their office a couple of times, I don't know that much about their business model/information as these things are confidential and there is no company that will reveal such internal information, but the guys seemed friendly and yes I've got the feeling that these people know what they are doing...

BTW the first time I visited last year, they had around 7 (or so) employees, the second time I visited they had more than 15 employees (didn't count but the office was big and full) and I hear that they are picking up potential and talented people to work for them...
hero member
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Bitgoblin
March 05, 2014, 07:48:38 AM
Only... they are anonymous, so sueing them might be much more complicated.
Which also means they are more likely to just grab any funds they still have and run.

Excuse me, who is anonymous? Are you talking about Bitstamp? Their management has always been very public:

https://twitter.com/nejc_kodric
http://www.crunchbase.com/person/nejc-kodric
http://si.linkedin.com/pub/nejc-kodri%C4%8D/47/227/299
http://si.linkedin.com/pub/damijan-merlak/16/667/4a9?trk=pub-pbmap

Plus you can find other Bitstamp employees on Linkedin just by searching "Bitstamp" with no problem. I really don't know where does this myth about Bitstamp being "anonymous" comes from, Coindesk always mentions Nejc when writes about Stamp, Nejc has a btctalk account under his real name which he used to post about his company when he founded it, when you open a ticket on Stamp the support agent always signs the reply with his first+last name...

And for Christ sake you just need to google "Bitstamp CEO" to find dozens (if not hundreds) of links about Nejc Kodric.
Sorry, my bad.
They are "privacy protected" in the whois, so I just believed when someone else also told me they were anonymous.
No clue why they have a hidden whois if their names are indeed known, it's just free bad publicity for them which they shouldn't deserve.

(that being said, their "hand out your documents or we'll keep your funds" without any email warning has been quite an assy move...)
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1001
March 05, 2014, 03:16:50 AM
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
March 05, 2014, 01:23:20 AM
"yep – and in fact I actually wire transferred $15,000 the same day the website was shut down. Fuck me."

Ouch...!

A couple of interesting articles:

http://gawker.com/does-mt-goxs-ceo-have-a-secret-history-of-online-payme-1534752110

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/mt-gox-source-code-leaked-by-hackers-along-with-team-information-customer-data/

Looks like Empty Gox's 20GB database of customer info (along with bank/passport scans) has been hacked...

Talk about adding insult to injury....

The last one, ouch. Before I was just disappointed, now I am angry.

Never trust a PHP coder!

does this mean we'll have to go silk road to buy our passports back?

From what I understood from thr IRC chat it's an old database with documents.
They stored it previously in the MySQL database.

They had 500,000 verified customers, everyone had to send minimum 2 scanned documents.
If you assume that the average size of a document is 1MB the database should be of 1000 gigabytes size, not 20.

Nevertheless, storing that kind of sensitive data in a (non-airgapped) database is INEXCUSABLE. You just DO NOT DO THAT. EVER.

What is database airgapping?

Shorthand for a database on an airgapped system.
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
March 05, 2014, 01:13:25 AM
"yep – and in fact I actually wire transferred $15,000 the same day the website was shut down. Fuck me."

Ouch...!

A couple of interesting articles:

http://gawker.com/does-mt-goxs-ceo-have-a-secret-history-of-online-payme-1534752110

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/mt-gox-source-code-leaked-by-hackers-along-with-team-information-customer-data/

Looks like Empty Gox's 20GB database of customer info (along with bank/passport scans) has been hacked...

Talk about adding insult to injury....

The last one, ouch. Before I was just disappointed, now I am angry.

Never trust a PHP coder!

does this mean we'll have to go silk road to buy our passports back?

From what I understood from thr IRC chat it's an old database with documents.
They stored it previously in the MySQL database.

They had 500,000 verified customers, everyone had to send minimum 2 scanned documents.
If you assume that the average size of a document is 1MB the database should be of 1000 gigabytes size, not 20.

Nevertheless, storing that kind of sensitive data in a (non-airgapped) database is INEXCUSABLE. You just DO NOT DO THAT. EVER.

What is database airgapping?
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
March 05, 2014, 12:44:41 AM
"yep – and in fact I actually wire transferred $15,000 the same day the website was shut down. Fuck me."

Ouch...!

A couple of interesting articles:

http://gawker.com/does-mt-goxs-ceo-have-a-secret-history-of-online-payme-1534752110

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/mt-gox-source-code-leaked-by-hackers-along-with-team-information-customer-data/

Looks like Empty Gox's 20GB database of customer info (along with bank/passport scans) has been hacked...

Talk about adding insult to injury....

The last one, ouch. Before I was just disappointed, now I am angry.

Never trust a PHP coder!

does this mean we'll have to go silk road to buy our passports back?

From what I understood from thr IRC chat it's an old database with documents.
They stored it previously in the MySQL database.

They had 500,000 verified customers, everyone had to send minimum 2 scanned documents.
If you assume that the average size of a document is 1MB the database should be of 1000 gigabytes size, not 20.

Nevertheless, storing that kind of sensitive data in a (non-airgapped) database is INEXCUSABLE. You just DO NOT DO THAT. EVER.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
March 05, 2014, 12:06:02 AM
please advise

i have not followed the whole mtgox bullshit

is all of my money (btc/usd) gone? is there any chance of getting it back? if so how?

I'm sorry to tell you.  Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone.

If by some miracle there is any restitution it will most likely take a very long time to see it.


 Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
March 04, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
Has anyone called to MtGox and asked when it will be possible to return the money?

Yes Smiley
Perhaps many people did Tongue and I think you should try it on your own Tongue
hero member
Activity: 644
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One Token to Move Anything Anywhere
March 04, 2014, 05:56:07 PM
"Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone." 

I like this. When they build a Bitcoin stock market exchange in New York City I want that engraved in Marble in 10 foot high letters over the bronze doors.

C

... because we still won't have a straight answer from Karpeles by then!  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3164
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
March 04, 2014, 05:30:36 PM
"Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone." 

I like this. When they build a Bitcoin stock market exchange in New York City I want that engraved in Marble in 10 foot high letters over the bronze doors.

C
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
March 04, 2014, 05:29:02 PM
please advise

i have not followed the whole mtgox bullshit

is all of my money (btc/usd) gone? is there any chance of getting it back? if so how?

I'm sorry to tell you.  Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone.

If by some miracle there is any restitution it will most likely take a very long time to see it.

"Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone."   wait for final don't say it before you don't know it.




^^^^Denial^^^^
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
March 04, 2014, 05:13:54 PM
please advise

i have not followed the whole mtgox bullshit

is all of my money (btc/usd) gone? is there any chance of getting it back? if so how?

I'm sorry to tell you.  Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone.

If by some miracle there is any restitution it will most likely take a very long time to see it.

"Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone."   wait for final don't say it before you don't know it.


legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
March 04, 2014, 04:45:46 PM
please advise

i have not followed the whole mtgox bullshit

is all of my money (btc/usd) gone? is there any chance of getting it back? if so how?

I'm sorry to tell you.  Most likely all your fiat and BTC on Gox is gone.

If by some miracle there is any restitution it will most likely take a very long time to see it.
member
Activity: 96
Merit: 10
March 04, 2014, 04:27:13 PM
"yep – and in fact I actually wire transferred $15,000 the same day the website was shut down. Fuck me."

Ouch...!

A couple of interesting articles:

http://gawker.com/does-mt-goxs-ceo-have-a-secret-history-of-online-payme-1534752110

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/mt-gox-source-code-leaked-by-hackers-along-with-team-information-customer-data/

Looks like Empty Gox's 20GB database of customer info (along with bank/passport scans) has been hacked...

Talk about adding insult to injury....

The last one, ouch. Before I was just disappointed, now I am angry.

Never trust a PHP coder!

does this mean we'll have to go silk road to buy our passports back?

From what I understood from thr IRC chat it's an old database with documents.
They stored it previously in the MySQL database.

They had 500,000 verified customers, everyone had to send minimum 2 scanned documents.
If you assume that the average size of a document is 1MB the database should be of 1000 gigabytes size, not 20.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
"yep – and in fact I actually wire transferred $15,000 the same day the website was shut down. Fuck me."

Ouch...!

A couple of interesting articles:

http://gawker.com/does-mt-goxs-ceo-have-a-secret-history-of-online-payme-1534752110

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/mt-gox-source-code-leaked-by-hackers-along-with-team-information-customer-data/

Looks like Empty Gox's 20GB database of customer info (along with bank/passport scans) has been hacked...

Talk about adding insult to injury....

The last one, ouch. Before I was just disappointed, now I am angry.

Never trust a PHP coder!

does this mean we'll have to go silk road to buy our passports back?
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
March 04, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
"yep – and in fact I actually wire transferred $15,000 the same day the website was shut down. Fuck me."

Ouch...!

A couple of interesting articles:

http://gawker.com/does-mt-goxs-ceo-have-a-secret-history-of-online-payme-1534752110

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/03/mt-gox-source-code-leaked-by-hackers-along-with-team-information-customer-data/

Looks like Empty Gox's 20GB database of customer info (along with bank/passport scans) has been hacked...

Talk about adding insult to injury....

The last one, ouch. Before I was just disappointed, now I am angry.

Never trust a PHP coder!
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
March 04, 2014, 02:08:49 PM
Has anyone called to MtGox and asked when it will be possible to return the money?


lolz Grin
newbie
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March 04, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
Has anyone called to MtGox and asked when it will be possible to return the money?
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 253
March 04, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Doggox or emptygox didn't even manage to renew the domain name:

see mtgox.com

Best regards,
ilpirata79

p.s. I want my bitcoins back
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