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February 25, 2014, 07:22:15 AM
So is it actually registered by Mark, or has someone hijacked this domain?
To me it's not logic to register a domainname elsewhere if you already have a domain+hosting.
You are possibly reading too much into someone simply using a different company than last time to register a domain.

http://gox.com today redirects to http://mtgox.com
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February 25, 2014, 07:20:27 AM
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Who wrote this?
That's a very good question. It's quite possible that it's fake. I've been bugging news outlets to insist that the guy who posted it post the actual file, not a link to scribd, so that forensic tools can be used on the source.

It also might be something someone at Mt. Gox planted, to direct attention away from internal theft and discourage efforts to force what's left of Mt. Gox into bankruptcy now.

it may be fake, but the latest development at gox (trading halted, site gone, twitter gone, the combined press release by other bitcoin actors, ..) makes me think its probably not.

As for who wrote it; assuming its legit, it reads like something that a major shareholder or otherwise stake holder might write. Someone at the bitcoin foundation?
 
Sure does explain the $100 price at gox though, someone with deep pockets knew. And that was always my fear, that the low price at gox wasnt caused by panic due to whats known publicly (made no sense) but by someone with big wallet and inside info.


gox.com was domain was acquired yesterday by Mt.Gox.  So who ever wrote this was privy to the actions of Mark Karpeles.  

I think Mark wants you to believe that Mt.Gox is being acquired.... unfortunately Gox.com is also Mark.

But isn't it strange that gox.com is registered via GoDaddy while mtgox.com registered via '1 API GMBH'?
http://www.whois.com/whois/gox.com
http://www.whois.com/whois/mtgox.com

So is it actually registered by Mark, or has someone hijacked this domain?
To me it's not logic to register a domainname elsewhere if you already have a domain+hosting.
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February 25, 2014, 07:14:39 AM
True dat:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/fukkenanything.backup

Same Access Denied... seems to work for *.backup

I presume kano realised this just after posting Tongue

yea I expected it was just some fun then after posting he reconsidered. Doh I feel bad for pasting it now but still wanted to know what was going on with it. 
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February 25, 2014, 07:08:05 AM
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Who wrote this?
That's a very good question. It's quite possible that it's fake. I've been bugging news outlets to insist that the guy who posted it post the actual file, not a link to scribd, so that forensic tools can be used on the source.

It also might be something someone at Mt. Gox planted, to direct attention away from internal theft and discourage efforts to force what's left of Mt. Gox into bankruptcy now.

it may be fake, but the latest development at gox (trading halted, site gone, twitter gone, the combined press release by other bitcoin actors, ..) makes me think its probably not.

As for who wrote it; assuming its legit, it reads like something that a major shareholder or otherwise stake holder might write. Someone at the bitcoin foundation?
 
Sure does explain the $100 price at gox though, someone with deep pockets knew. And that was always my fear, that the low price at gox wasnt caused by panic due to whats known publicly (made no sense) but by someone with big wallet and inside info.


gox.com was domain was acquired yesterday by Mt.Gox.  So who ever wrote this was privy to the actions of Mark Karpeles.  

I think Mark wants you to believe that Mt.Gox is being acquired.... unfortunately Gox.com is also Mark.
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February 25, 2014, 07:07:50 AM
it's the same if you put:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency1-Announcement.backup" on this server.
Reference #18.721d434d.1393326101.7a50edc5

or this:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency11000-Announcement.backup" on this server.
Reference #18.721d434d.1393326165.7a528caf

True dat:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/fukkenanything.backup

Same Access Denied... seems to work for *.backup
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February 25, 2014, 07:07:22 AM
it is not the script executing - They are running a cluster of front end servers and one of them has a different index page. The load balancer is using "round robin" aka passing each subsequent request to the next server in the cluster - so eventually if you keep reloading the page you end up on the one with the different index document.

I suspect their stuff is not that complicated at this moment - especially with just one page to be served...

btw I noticed that FF executes the script almost immediately, but (fortunately?) IE is much slower...

and of course the easiest way to capture the whole thing was to make a dummy link to the site, right-click (using IE!) and select Save Target.
just copy-paste and save to something.htm file:
Code:
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February 25, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
In that case what a dick.
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February 25, 2014, 07:02:53 AM
it's the same if you put:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency1-Announcement.backup" on this server.
Reference #18.721d434d.1393326101.7a50edc5

or this:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency11000-Announcement.backup" on this server.
Reference #18.721d434d.1393326165.7a528caf
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February 25, 2014, 07:01:54 AM
Kano where did you get that link from? Smiley That was clever!

edit: Did you accidentally delete your post?

here are the two links again:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup2 - that's how 404 error should look like
https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup - this one does not give you a 404 but instead you get Access Denied
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February 25, 2014, 07:00:32 AM
it is not the script executing - They are running a cluster of front end servers and one of them has a different index page. The load balancer is using "round robin" aka passing each subsequent request to the next server in the cluster - so eventually if you keep reloading the page you end up on the one with the different index document.

Just shows what utter tools they are that they can not even ensure the deployment of a single page is the same across all the servers. No wonder they did not notice that the BTC were missing - any normal business would have a daily audit to make sure the total BTC in the DB matches what is in the wallets. It would have taken a few hours of development to write the code for that and it would have ensured they were not leaking BTC. The worrying thing is this - if they were not auditing the BTC balances against the wallets what is the chance that they were auditing the FIAT balances against the bank accounts.

I truly hope someone does time for this because the negligence  is truly criminal.

 
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February 25, 2014, 07:00:25 AM
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Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]
Today at 10:56:26 AM
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Then of course there's some fun:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup

Now what is that you may ask?

Well ... notice it doesn't give a 404 error?

Click on this to see what it looks like if it doesn't exist:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup2

Wtf is this ? He just posted it then it got deleted right here on this thread.
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February 25, 2014, 06:59:28 AM
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Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]
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Then of course there's some fun:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup

Now what is that you may ask?

Well ... notice it doesn't give a 404 error?

Click on this to see what it looks like if it doesn't exist:

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup2
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February 25, 2014, 06:58:14 AM
i tried to access through my Android app, but it can't connect to the server.
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February 25, 2014, 06:52:41 AM
Ok and what does that code mean? I don't speak java.

Can anyone else check MtGox Android app? Is it really displaying some bogus balance, like for me? (1.3 instead of the actual 8.5)
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February 25, 2014, 06:51:14 AM
What happens is that the script works. If you catch the page before the script has executed then you'll see the source of the script. Once the script runs you get the blank page.

Here is what the script looked like for me:

Code:
MtGox.com loading

Please wait...




(I've added the CRLF stuff - it's all one line otherwise)
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February 25, 2014, 06:34:21 AM
this is what i see now


   
      MtGox.com
   
   
      
   
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February 25, 2014, 06:32:27 AM
you need to go to source of the page

right click and source

yeah I know but whenever I check, it's the simple html placeholder w/o any kind of javascript (yes I'm refreshing and no it's not from the cache)
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February 25, 2014, 06:31:09 AM
Fun fact: just logged in to mtgox through the Android client. It lets me in, and it says my balance is 1.3 BTC. My actual balance was ~8.5 yesterday when the site was still up. I'm not sure if this is some kind of a cached value being displayed or what... (I don't remember when did I use the Android app for the last time, it was quite a few weeks ago).
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February 25, 2014, 06:27:30 AM
Hi guys,

Is bitcoin builder still working?

If yes, I guess it s only working for people who had already withdrew their Gox coins.

Is there by chace any crazy way to still transfer the coins from gox to bitcoin builder. Maybe the API still works??

Better find a way fast because I think there's only going to be one overall direction of trade today!  Smiley
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