Topic: My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. - page 110. (Read 147923 times)
August 19, 2016, 09:57:28 PM
Does anyone get email updates from the webpage? I've yet to sign up, but I need to. Turns out a storm took my power out this morning. Took me WAY TOO LONG to figure out my machines were not mining.
August 19, 2016, 09:08:34 PM
yeah old way was far better. the new designer should be fined 
I have a lot of rigs will go to more in the winter. I need too many clicks this way.
I have a lot of rigs will go to more in the winter. I need too many clicks this way.
August 19, 2016, 09:00:23 PM
Does anyone else hate Etherpool's new "pretty but DAMN it's a pain to see all the info that's USEFUL" stats display?
I find having to click a BUNCH of times, AND change pages, just to see all the USEFUL info that was on their old design page irritating.
I want the mining calculation and the INDIVIDUAL CHARTS PER CLIENT on one page, always displayed - the current setup takes me something like 10 TIMES as long to do my "miner check" routine multiple times a day, and just absolutely sucks - yet they insist on wasting a ton of space on "pretty" and "fancy" shit I couldn't care less about like that "shares each hour" chart. Having to click on each client to GET the damned chart is a major waste of time when you have quite a few miners.
They take WAY too long to decide a miner has shut down, which is why I want the CHARTS - I can usually tell by the CHART when a miner is shut down a good hour BEFORE their "oops, client died" stuff figures it out.
I agree man, I hate the new ethermine interface too.. and everybody I talked to hates it as well.. before it was a nice one pager, easy to read.. now it's all tabbed and fancy but slows you down too much..
August 19, 2016, 08:51:00 PM
why you not use usb riser ?
If you can insert 4 cards per rig, it fits into nice pc case and temperatures are in acceptable range - forget about risers. That build is safer.this was my original intention to Phil, to find an optimum method to rack or get them rig into a decent chassis, for ISP hosting.
So far 4xGPU mobo in a decent full ATX may do the trick like Phil's Rosewill case.
Any other suggestions is welcomed.
They're a bit more expensive, but NewEgg DOES list at least 2 actual 4U rackmount cases with "8 perepheral" slots suitable for mounting 4x dual-width GPUs.
One of them had 3x 120mm fans (might need to upgrade to BETTER fans but the spaces are there to do so), the other though looked like a single-fan setup that would NOT provide decent airflow for cooling with anything less than a 140mm Delta top-end screamer (but only has the SPACE to mount a 120, which IME would be marginal but MIGHT be enough with the 250+ CFM Delta 120s).
Does anyone else hate Etherpool's new "pretty but DAMN it's a pain to see all the info that's USEFUL" stats display?
I find having to click a BUNCH of times, AND change pages, just to see all the USEFUL info that was on their old design page irritating.
I want the mining calculation and the INDIVIDUAL CHARTS PER CLIENT on one page, always displayed - the current setup takes me something like 10 TIMES as long to do my "miner check" routine multiple times a day, and just absolutely sucks - yet they insist on wasting a ton of space on "pretty" and "fancy" shit I couldn't care less about like that "shares each hour" chart. Having to click on each client to GET the damned chart is a major waste of time when you have quite a few miners.
They take WAY too long to decide a miner has shut down, which is why I want the CHARTS - I can usually tell by the CHART when a miner is shut down a good hour BEFORE their "oops, client died" stuff figures it out.
August 19, 2016, 02:08:41 PM
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
hello redrose
can share your 300 dollar rig?
-Intel G1820 : 43,14$
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Kingston HyperX 8 Gb : 39,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 Gb : 20,99$
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TOTAL : 299,1$
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Exit strategy... It is easier to sell higher end parts to gamers when you're done using the cards for mining.
It might sounds a good plan, but depending of where you live, reselling parts may be a real pain. I prefer to go cheaper and keep it, that'll always be useful in some way.
A good suggestion so you don't waste money if you buy many of those..
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=413
Don't.
For a budget build ok, but the PSU, and I speak for very high direct experience, given that it's the most important thing in a system, needs to be very good, with high quality components and topology.
Be careful with budget PSU's, there's a reason if it has a very low MSRP.
yeah I get better psu's as routine when when I find a good price I get them.
Oh four card build in that case has been a disaster. I shorted two pcie slots on the mobo. not sure if it was the fault of the case my self or the mobo.
one problem was the rx 470's I used had a back plate and were not fitting due to the backplate.
did not kill the cards. for now I am using the mobo as a two card miner.
I have a lot of things on my plate I will not be doing more build I am now at 400mh +
Yeah that's the crappy thing about the 470s ref card that damn backplate being too thick..
So how many cards are you pushing now? 20ish?
How many watts you looking at?
Okay I have an rx 470 sealed plus below>
11 rx 480s
6 rx 470's add to about 402mh.
Total watts is 2600 I need to check that. I could run 1 more going to 425mh and 2725 watts
look below
August 19, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
hello redrose
can share your 300 dollar rig?
-Intel G1820 : 43,14$
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Kingston HyperX 8 Gb : 39,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 Gb : 20,99$
---------------------------------------------------
TOTAL : 299,1$
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Exit strategy... It is easier to sell higher end parts to gamers when you're done using the cards for mining.
It might sounds a good plan, but depending of where you live, reselling parts may be a real pain. I prefer to go cheaper and keep it, that'll always be useful in some way.
A good suggestion so you don't waste money if you buy many of those..
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=413
Don't.
For a budget build ok, but the PSU, and I speak for very high direct experience, given that it's the most important thing in a system, needs to be very good, with high quality components and topology.
Be careful with budget PSU's, there's a reason if it has a very low MSRP.
yeah I get better psu's as routine when when I find a good price I get them.
Oh four card build in that case has been a disaster. I shorted two pcie slots on the mobo. not sure if it was the fault of the case my self or the mobo.
one problem was the rx 470's I used had a back plate and were not fitting due to the backplate.
did not kill the cards. for now I am using the mobo as a two card miner.
I have a lot of things on my plate I will not be doing more build I am now at 400mh +
Yeah that's the crappy thing about the 470s ref card that damn backplate being too thick..
So how many cards are you pushing now? 20ish?
How many watts you looking at?
August 19, 2016, 08:24:47 AM
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
hello redrose
can share your 300 dollar rig?
-Intel G1820 : 43,14$
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Kingston HyperX 8 Gb : 39,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 Gb : 20,99$
---------------------------------------------------
TOTAL : 299,1$
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Exit strategy... It is easier to sell higher end parts to gamers when you're done using the cards for mining.
It might sounds a good plan, but depending of where you live, reselling parts may be a real pain. I prefer to go cheaper and keep it, that'll always be useful in some way.
A good suggestion so you don't waste money if you buy many of those..
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=413
Don't.
For a budget build ok, but the PSU, and I speak for very high direct experience, given that it's the most important thing in a system, needs to be very good, with high quality components and topology.
Be careful with budget PSU's, there's a reason if it has a very low MSRP.
yeah I get better psu's as routine when when I find a good price I get them.
Oh four card build in that case has been a disaster. I shorted two pcie slots on the mobo. not sure if it was the fault of the case my self or the mobo.
one problem was the rx 470's I used had a back plate and were not fitting due to the backplate.
did not kill the cards. for now I am using the mobo as a two card miner.
I have a lot of things on my plate I will not be doing more build I am now at 400mh +
August 19, 2016, 05:18:28 AM
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
hello redrose
can share your 300 dollar rig?
-Intel G1820 : 43,14$
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Kingston HyperX 8 Gb : 39,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 Gb : 20,99$
---------------------------------------------------
TOTAL : 299,1$
Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.
Exit strategy... It is easier to sell higher end parts to gamers when you're done using the cards for mining.
It might sounds a good plan, but depending of where you live, reselling parts may be a real pain. I prefer to go cheaper and keep it, that'll always be useful in some way.
A good suggestion so you don't waste money if you buy many of those..
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=413
Don't.
For a budget build ok, but the PSU, and I speak for very high direct experience, given that it's the most important thing in a system, needs to be very good, with high quality components and topology.
Be careful with budget PSU's, there's a reason if it has a very low MSRP.
August 19, 2016, 04:34:57 AM
For hosting and utilizing open air and risers this case works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EGREBKM
Just buit two of them myself, pretty nifty design Idea as the vents face up as a lot of server racks exhaust at the top
As a bonus they give you 6 usb risers free, plus a power button and a cool little case with all the screws and mobo standoffs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EGREBKM
Just buit two of them myself, pretty nifty design Idea as the vents face up as a lot of server racks exhaust at the top
As a bonus they give you 6 usb risers free, plus a power button and a cool little case with all the screws and mobo standoffs
That's so expensive ! Even though I use a horizontal build, if you want to use such a type of cases, you should better take some planks, a good old handscaw, some nails and an hammer. Then you're fine for a near free case ! If you're a lazy rich man, you can even buy little square planks that do not need to be cut
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August 19, 2016, 03:45:07 AM
For hosting and utilizing open air and risers this case works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EGREBKM
Just buit two of them myself, pretty nifty design Idea as the vents face up as a lot of server racks exhaust at the top
As a bonus they give you 6 usb risers free, plus a power button and a cool little case with all the screws and mobo standoffs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EGREBKM
Just buit two of them myself, pretty nifty design Idea as the vents face up as a lot of server racks exhaust at the top
As a bonus they give you 6 usb risers free, plus a power button and a cool little case with all the screws and mobo standoffs
August 18, 2016, 06:49:00 PM
why you not use usb riser ?
If you can insert 4 cards per rig, it fits into nice pc case and temperatures are in acceptable range - forget about risers. That build is safer.this was my original intention to Phil, to find an optimum method to rack or get them rig into a decent chassis, for ISP hosting.
So far 4xGPU mobo in a decent full ATX may do the trick like Phil's Rosewill case.
Any other suggestions is welcomed.
August 18, 2016, 05:30:42 PM
why you not use usb riser ?
If you can insert 4 cards per rig, it fits into nice pc case and temperatures are in acceptable range - forget about risers. That build is safer. August 18, 2016, 03:59:59 AM
why you not use usb riser ?
He said the quality of the USB risers are not so good.
I use all my rigs with USB or ribbon risers as the heating is a concern for my mining operation.
August 17, 2016, 11:21:02 PM
why you not use usb riser ?
August 17, 2016, 09:35:27 PM
If that side fan doesn't keep the cards cool nothing will!
August 17, 2016, 09:23:36 PM
Okay the Rosewill Thor V2 arrived today and I am building a four card rig.
the good it all fits.
will post back later.
the good it all fits.
will post back later.
looking forward to this build Phil.
pls do take some notes and findings to share on cooling/air flow/top-vent etc.
I think the heat from the 4 cards will be the biggest challenge.
August 17, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
August 17, 2016, 05:43:15 PM
Okay the Rosewill Thor V2 arrived today and I am building a four card rig.
the good it all fits.
will post back later.
the good it all fits.
will post back later.
August 16, 2016, 05:32:56 PM
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
You also need risers to use that setup, which you did NOT include in your pricing.
For a mining-specific build, might be a good setup, though I suspect I could shave a few $$ off the total price - and I'm not impressed with anything I've read about the long-term reliability of the LEPA power supplies vs. EVGA G2 series or especially Seasonic X-series.
I do agree with you on the "don't worry about an exit strategy" option, as I've already got long-term plans in place for all the machines I'm currently mining Ethereum with.
To don't fake the prices of the setup, I usuallt include price of the risers (about 10$ each) in the price card in my ROI plans.
August 16, 2016, 04:06:24 PM
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
You also need risers to use that setup, which you did NOT include in your pricing.
For a mining-specific build, might be a good setup, though I suspect I could shave a few $$ off the total price - and I'm not impressed with anything I've read about the long-term reliability of the LEPA power supplies vs. EVGA G2 series or especially Seasonic X-series.
I do agree with you on the "don't worry about an exit strategy" option, as I've already got long-term plans in place for all the machines I'm currently mining Ethereum with.
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