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Topic: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan (Read 5717 times)

legendary
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I received a handful of missives from chichidori, the last being:

This account and the email used was enrolled to an airdrop, so that`s why i am not approved and received nothing because of your post.

I have all the proof that the account Sarahiko is not in my control anymore as of october 5,2015 i have sold it to neotox i can`t do anything since the damage has been done its up to you to correct it thank you.


I then suggested to chichidori that I would modify my feedback to neutral and received this.

Thank you so much, i appreciate it, using an alt is the same as cheating, because i often join graphic design contest here in bitcointalk, and sorry for my bad english.

chichidori It would help if you post information on the sale of the account Sarahiko here.
legendary
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Hi everyone

This is just to let you know murderouskirk/swingdev and i have finished with this issue. As far as we are concerned this issue is concluded.

Murderouskirk even left the following feedback to confirm this:

murderouskirk 0: -0 / +0   2016-01-31   0.00000000   Reference   Secured my stolen hero / developer account from some thief / scammer. Returned it to me successfully. My faith in Altcoin4Life's ethics and professionalism has been restored. Extremely appreciated!


Also murderouskirk even gave a partial payment of 0.01088945 BTC to my address 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop   as a good gesture to me:

https://blockchain.info/tx/2066340c72bc17f3a38f660994bd674b97d1c9d68c51abce3fbc8946a5f63ce1

He has said he does not have funds now but if he does in the near future he may tip me some more.

ALTCOIN4LIFE AND MURDEROUSKIRK HAVE MOVED ON..... I SUGGEST THAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES THE SAME.

THIS ISSUE IS SOLVED!

OK

Thanks
Altcoin4life


There is still the outstanding issue of the negative feedback / trust that you have left for some of us.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Hi everyone

This is just to let you know murderouskirk/swingdev and i have finished with this issue. As far as we are concerned this issue is concluded.

Murderouskirk even left the following feedback to confirm this:

murderouskirk 0: -0 / +0   2016-01-31   0.00000000   Reference   Secured my stolen hero / developer account from some thief / scammer. Returned it to me successfully. My faith in Altcoin4Life's ethics and professionalism has been restored. Extremely appreciated!


Also murderouskirk even gave a partial payment of 0.01088945 BTC to my address 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop   as a good gesture to me:

https://blockchain.info/tx/2066340c72bc17f3a38f660994bd674b97d1c9d68c51abce3fbc8946a5f63ce1

He has said he does not have funds now but if he does in the near future he may tip me some more.

ALTCOIN4LIFE AND MURDEROUSKIRK HAVE MOVED ON..... I SUGGEST THAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES THE SAME.

THIS ISSUE IS SOLVED!

OK

Thanks
Altcoin4life
legendary
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Quoted for future reference.

You know what.The big LOL here is that the victim and the lender don't have any grudge among themselves and in fact 'murderouskirk' left a positive feedback for 'Altcoin4life' but those who have no concerns towards the account or the money are just trolling by showing that they too can type and press the submit button on the feedback page.Good Luck,stay in the kindergarten.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
You know what.The big LOL here is that the victim and the lender don't have any grudge among themselves and in fact 'murderouskirk' left a positive feedback for 'Altcoin4life' but those who have no concerns towards the account or the money are just trolling by showing that they too can type and press the submit button on the feedback page.Good Luck,stay in the kindergarten.
legendary
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Quoting for future reference...

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Altcoin4life -2: -1 / +0   2016-02-01   0.00000000   Reference   THIS USER IS ABUSING THE FEEDBACK TRUST SYSTEM.

IS LEAVING ME NEUTRAL OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WHILE AN ISSUE IS BEING RESOLVED BETWEEN SWINGDEV/MURDEROUSKIRK HACKED ACCOUNT AND ME ALTCOIN4LIFE.

MALICIOUSLY LEAVES FEEDBACK WHILE THE ISSUE IS BEING SLOWLY RESOLVED. SEE LINK FOR DETAILS:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1343710.0;all

I LOANED MONEY TO A USER, THIS ACCOUNT TURNED OUT TO BE HACKED. I WAITED FOR A SIGNED MESSAGE, ONCE IT WAS PROVIDED I GAVE BACK THE ACCOUNT TO THE VICTIM AND THE ORIGINAL OWNER.

THIS ISSUE IS NOW FULLY RESOLVED BUT SOME USERS STILL FEEL THE NEED TO LEAVE MALICIOUS FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS

THANKS
ALTCOIN4LIFE

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Altcoin4life -2: -1 / +0   2016-02-01   0.00000000      THIS USER IS LEAVING FAKE AND FALSE FEEDBACK IN A MALICIOUS WAY.



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Altcoin4life -2: -1 / +0   2016-01-29   0.00000000   Reference   Altcoin4life admitted to being in possession of SwingDev 's account that was stolen and is refusing to return the account unless a bribe is paid for its return.

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Altcoin4life -2: -1 / +0   2016-01-30   0.00000000   Reference   Altcoin4life claims I have scammed him out of 0.13 BTC - I have never traded with him / her.
legendary
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Hey Heutenamos that's very smart (er, no, no it's not) splitting my two sentences and interpreting them differently when they were written together.
member
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i am sick of this, post a fucking address and i will send 0.01... wont make me poor, wont solve it but by doing so we are on a way to silence all the ladys here.....

god damn....

if I'm not mistaking, he posted this & got the guy with the hacked account to send btc here
https://blockchain.info/address/1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop
it's on the page before this
legendary
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i am sick of this, post a fucking address and i will send 0.01... wont make me poor, wont solve it but by doing so we are on a way to silence all the ladys here.....

god damn....
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
He edited that later.The original post is the one I quoted.
copper member
Activity: 1904
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Goodbye, Z.
Why?
Because you didn't did it when you had a chance to.However, why not do it now ? Give him 0.05 or something similar & I think it would be a lot more pleasing.
Did you read the thread? He stated that he hasn't got the funds liquid right now, easy as that. And you know what, to a point, I believe him. All his known addresses are empty right now.

Altcoin4Life I have sent you all of my bitcoin.
I only had 0.01108945.
I understand this is laughably small. I'll send more your way as I get it.
so far I've given him all the bitcoin I have (0.011)



He edited that later.The original post is the one I quoted.
Doesn't change the first quote, that was written yesterday.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
Why?
Because you didn't did it when you had a chance to.However, why not do it now ? Give him 0.05 or something similar & I think it would be a lot more pleasing.

Also like I said in another post I can respect you pointing out the possibilities. I was just showing the holes in the possibilities you presented.
Thanks.But there are holes everywhere and i didn't liked people accusing the lender particularly.This was the only point of mine.
hero member
Activity: 938
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I doubt you would do that ever.

Why? That's pretty cynical of you, not that i really blame you for being that way in the world of bitcoin I guess. Half is only 0.065, so far I've given him all the bitcoin I have (0.011). Not a huge stretch of the imagination or wallet to think I might pass .054+ his way in the future (~$20 USD).

Also like I said in another post I can respect you pointing out the possibilities. I was just showing the holes in the possibilities you presented.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
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I just pointed out the possibilities and this could have been resolved pretty easily if staff involves but they don't ,so its just waste of time as both the parties would eventually get the benefit of doubt.

Though,you coming just after the loan is not a convincing hack story to me but again i wouldn't accuse anyone basing on such low value info.In the end you are definitely not the innocent here and the perfect solution would be to refund half of the coins to the lender,I doubt you would do that ever.

See what blazed did on a similar situation.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12233755

It was a nice try but you'll have to do better to put together a logical accusation against me.
No try ,I would have posted it in the beginning if i had to try anything but i got pissed by other comments against the lender while he is angry about his loss.
Now the edited & bolded words are just proving my points.Do you mean that you planned everything in a professional manner by which you are assuming the difficulty ?

You claim that suchmoon , Lutpin and myself have each scammed you of BTC 0.13
I don't think he is claiming that you people scammed but IMO he is annoyed because of unnecessary interference.The money is just a reference.
However the ratings seem to be edited now.

I again ask you to either show proof or to remove your negative trust - both of them.
Why don't you show proof that he has not returned the account and why don't you remove your fake(first) feedback from his profile even after he returned the account to the assumed rightful owner ?

People want to leave a neutral even after the situation is resolved completely but they fear or simply don't like when the same happens to them ? huh...doesn't seems fair to me cause if you think someone is dishonest and leave a feedback then he too has the right to do such.

I didn't knew that someone could use DT3 or force anyone ? I think people just wanted to troll him with the neutral/negative game but sadly he doesn't seems to have enough knowledge about forum drama and started retaliating it simply.I don't see anything wrong if you discuss and resolve the rating issues.
legendary
Activity: 3696
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Hi everyone

Just to let you know that i am being much more careful now to who i loan money to including now getting an old staked message as well as taking collateral and looking for other red flags.

I WILL NOW ALSO SEARCH THE BTC ADDRESS THEY GIVE TO FIND OUT ANY INFO ABOUT ANY ALTS THEY MAY HAVE ON THIS FORUM.

Many Thanks
Alcoin4life

All these can be avoided if you guys stop taking accounts collateral. It's what's encouraging scammers/hackers to hijack high ranked accounts and then offering them out again as collateral. Anyway, glad this issue is settled, would also be good if you would revise your rushed feedback left on others.

I have received this mesage in my PM

Timelord2067 1: -0 / +1   2016-01-29   0.13000000   Reference   Has left negative feedback in haste while me and the original owner of hacked account are trying to solve the issue.

Will remove this after it has been solved.

Thanks

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Timelord2067 1: -0 / +1   2016-01-30   0.00000000      FALSE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK SPAM WHILE I AM TRYING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE WITH SWINGDEV HACKED ACCOUNT

HAS NO PATIENCE TO WAIT UNTIL ISSUE SOLVED

Thanks
Altcoin4life

I consider yo to be little more than a compulsive liar.
hero member
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Hi everyone

Just to let you know that i am being much more careful now to who i loan money to including now getting an old staked message as well as taking collateral and looking for other red flags.

I WILL NOW ALSO SEARCH THE BTC ADDRESS THEY GIVE TO FIND OUT ANY INFO ABOUT ANY ALTS THEY MAY HAVE ON THIS FORUM.

Many Thanks
Alcoin4life

All these can be avoided if you guys stop taking accounts collateral. It's what's encouraging scammers/hackers to hijack high ranked accounts and then offering them out again as collateral. Anyway, glad this issue is settled, would also be good if you would revise your rushed feedback left on others.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Hi everyone

Just to let you know that i am being much more careful now to who i loan money to including now getting an old staked message as well as taking collateral and looking for other red flags.

I WILL NOW ALSO SEARCH THE BTC ADDRESS THEY GIVE TO FIND OUT ANY INFO ABOUT ANY ALTS THEY MAY HAVE ON THIS FORUM.

Many Thanks
Alcoin4life
hero member
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Altcoin4life loaned rajat08 some BTC

Loan amount : 0.03 BTC
Collateral : my account
Loan reason : Personal
Your BTC address : 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF
Repayment offered : 0.032
Date of repayment : After 5 days

Hi​

Please ​see the PM i have sent you.

Thanks

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​Altcoin4life
​​​Contact between 2-10 pm UK time only!
​----------------------------------------------------​--​--

after having been unable to get a loan elsewhere...

Loan Amount :0.044
Collateral :This account
Loan reason     : Short on some funds
Your BTC Address  : 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF
Date of repayment  : 12/1/16



The wallet is also used by sellaccount99

@shorena-okay.got your point. By making new address in my wallet will it not create any issue??

No, but you should not create a new transaction that needs the funds from the above transaction(s). Creating new addresses are not an issue.
So you mean making new address in my wallet of blockchain will not resolve the issue.is that you meant??

I want to do some transactions. I need some address to send or receive bitcoins.
I will not use the address 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF to do any transaction.

Give me best solution.

As I said above, stop using shitty services. There is no issue on your end, so you cant fix it. The person that made the transaction needs to change their software.

how can I see All incoming transactions that are confirmed are currently spendable. All unconfirmed/rejected/pruned transactions are not spendable.

Plz in details i am newbie.

which wallet are you using? if it's blockchain, you should only have 1 address, can you post this addresess? In case you're using a desktop wallet (core, multibit, electrum,...) you'll have multiple addresses. can you post the address you were using?
blockchain
1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF



sellaccount99 is an Alt of rajat08



​Altcoin4life doesn't appear to be very careful in who he loans BitCoins to.

Hi Timelord2067

I have never loaned rajat08 any coins. I simply sent him a PM to say that i am unable to give this loan.

ALL THE LOANS I HAVE MADE IN THE PAST ARE ACTUALLY AT THE TOP OF MY LENDING THREAD AND CAN BE FOUND BELOW:

THIS LEDGER HAS FULL DETAILS INCLUDING LINKS OF PAYMENT PROOF ETC

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13297793

Many Thanks
Altcoin4life
hero member
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Altcoin4Life I have sent you all of my bitcoin.

I only had 0.01108945.

I understand this is laughably small. I'll send more your way as I get it.

I just didn't felt that it is any serious issue but it so annoying as I see people putting it all over the lender.I mean what the fuck did the developer learned in his years of crypto experience if he is unable to prevent a simple hack ?

He is running a Coin and suddenly a gap of 2 weeks ?

However,the password is changed for the first time on 6th and if that was the time of hack then what the heck was the hacker waiting for and why wanted to pull off the scam while hacking it 8 days before ? Doesn't makes sense.

Lets assume the above reset was done by dev itself and he had complete control on the account.The next reset is on 13th and just one day before the loan,its not a single reset but was done thrice.However the user/hacker tried to scam in a variety of ways and urged others to send first.I am pretty sure all this process might have involved several pm's and he might have also received a pm from Altcoin4Life too(can be confirmed) but afaik you receive a pm notification to your e-mail but the dev ignored/missed this too ? lol but he is suddenly active as the loan is processed.I don't find this story to be a coincidence but i wouldn't conclude that he a pulled a scam.

If the dev would have been active in the mean time then he could have reported and no one would have ever loaned the hacker,right ? but you reported right after the loan was processed.Not convincing.

You're making some failed assumptions.

Why would the intruder fail to change my email? If it was still tied to my original email address (which i have access to) I probably would have been able to get back in.

BitcoinTalk does not email you when your email address has been changed. Try it yourself if you don't believe me. (It's a little absurd I know..)

The last email I got from a message was 12/17/15 from one of my holders discussing volume.

I got nothing after that and especially didn't get emails containing the intruders PM's...

And in regards to

He is running a Coin and suddenly a gap of 2 weeks ?

Swing doesn't pay the bills man. I've been trying to find an income for myself. You don't have to be employed with a quality job and 100% free time to make a cryptocurrency.

It was a nice try but you'll have to do better to put together a logical accusation against me.



Also,

I have removed the neg's left on users like Mexxer etc.. done by the intruder. I took a screenshot of those that left me warning negs and will be adding +Rep to anyone that correctly placed a warning on the account before the account was returned.

Hi Swingdev/murderouskirk

Many Thanks for the small tip you gave to my address like you said you would.

https://blockchain.info/tx/2066340c72bc17f3a38f660994bd674b97d1c9d68c51abce3fbc8946a5f63ce1

I appreciate this is a good gesture and glad you paid something and kept your word.

If you do develop the swing coin much more or you do profit it would be good if you give some tip like you said you would.

Anyway thanks again, and i hope you are back up and running and its good that this issue is solved.

Cheers
Altcoin4life

legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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Altcoin4life loaned rajat08 some BTC

Loan amount : 0.03 BTC
Collateral : my account
Loan reason : Personal
Your BTC address : 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF
Repayment offered : 0.032
Date of repayment : After 5 days

Hi​

Please ​see the PM i have sent you.

Thanks

​--------------------------------------------------------
​Altcoin4life
​​​Contact between 2-10 pm UK time only!
​----------------------------------------------------​--​--

after having been unable to get a loan elsewhere...

Loan Amount :0.044
Collateral :This account
Loan reason     : Short on some funds
Your BTC Address  : 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF
Date of repayment  : 12/1/16



The wallet is also used by sellaccount99

@shorena-okay.got your point. By making new address in my wallet will it not create any issue??

No, but you should not create a new transaction that needs the funds from the above transaction(s). Creating new addresses are not an issue.
So you mean making new address in my wallet of blockchain will not resolve the issue.is that you meant??

I want to do some transactions. I need some address to send or receive bitcoins.
I will not use the address 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF to do any transaction.

Give me best solution.

As I said above, stop using shitty services. There is no issue on your end, so you cant fix it. The person that made the transaction needs to change their software.

how can I see All incoming transactions that are confirmed are currently spendable. All unconfirmed/rejected/pruned transactions are not spendable.

Plz in details i am newbie.

which wallet are you using? if it's blockchain, you should only have 1 address, can you post this addresess? In case you're using a desktop wallet (core, multibit, electrum,...) you'll have multiple addresses. can you post the address you were using?
blockchain
1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF



sellaccount99 is an Alt of rajat08



​Altcoin4life doesn't appear to be very careful in who he loans BitCoins to.
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