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Topic: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan - page 2. (Read 5717 times)

hero member
Activity: 938
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Altcoin4Life I have sent you all of my bitcoin.

I only had 0.01108945.

I understand this is laughably small. I'll send more your way as I get it.

I just didn't felt that it is any serious issue but it so annoying as I see people putting it all over the lender.I mean what the fuck did the developer learned in his years of crypto experience if he is unable to prevent a simple hack ?

He is running a Coin and suddenly a gap of 2 weeks ?

However,the password is changed for the first time on 6th and if that was the time of hack then what the heck was the hacker waiting for and why wanted to pull off the scam while hacking it 8 days before ? Doesn't makes sense.

Lets assume the above reset was done by dev itself and he had complete control on the account.The next reset is on 13th and just one day before the loan,its not a single reset but was done thrice.However the user/hacker tried to scam in a variety of ways and urged others to send first.I am pretty sure all this process might have involved several pm's and he might have also received a pm from Altcoin4Life too(can be confirmed) but afaik you receive a pm notification to your e-mail but the dev ignored/missed this too ? lol but he is suddenly active as the loan is processed.I don't find this story to be a coincidence but i wouldn't conclude that he a pulled a scam.

If the dev would have been active in the mean time then he could have reported and no one would have ever loaned the hacker,right ? but you reported right after the loan was processed.Not convincing.

You're making some failed assumptions.

Why would the intruder fail to change my email? If it was still tied to my original email address (which i have access to) I probably would have been able to get back in.

BitcoinTalk does not email you when your email address has been changed. Try it yourself if you don't believe me. (It's a little absurd I know..)

The last email I got from a message was 12/17/15 from one of my holders discussing volume.

I got nothing after that and especially didn't get emails containing the intruders PM's...

And in regards to

He is running a Coin and suddenly a gap of 2 weeks ?

Swing doesn't pay the bills man. I've been trying to find an income for myself. You don't have to be employed with a quality job and 100% free time to make a cryptocurrency.

It was a nice try but you'll have to do better to put together a logical accusation against me.



Also,

I have removed the neg's left on users like Mexxer etc.. done by the intruder. I took a screenshot of those that left me warning negs and will be adding +Rep to anyone that correctly placed a warning on the account before the account was returned.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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Now why would Altcoin4life be wanting information about accessing someone's wallet *after* having sold the private key?

Advice about sweeping or importing private key for specific btc address - How? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/advice-about-sweeping-or-importing-private-key-for-specific-btc-address-how-1345013 - http://archive.is/11O9T
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Hi everyone i am glad this issue is over and that swingdev/murderouskirk have got their account back.

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPATIENT AND DID NOT WAIT FOR THIS ISSUE TO BE CONCLUDED AND LEFT ME NEUTRAL OR NEGATIVE TRUST WHILE I WAS IN DISCUSSION WITH SWINGDEV.

I will now PM all users who left me feedback that the account has been handed back and that the original owner has signed a message from his btc address confirming that altcoin4life has given back the account to swingdev/murderouskirk.

ALSO I AM IN NO WAY HIDING THIS ISSUE FROM ANYONE, THERE ARE SEVERAL THREADS THROUGHOUT THE FORUM TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, SO I DO NOT SEE WHY HAVING A NEUTRAL FEEDBACK WITH LINKS AND DETAILS IS HELPING.


IF YOU REMOVE YOUR FEEDBACK TRUST ABUSE AND YOUR NEUTRAL OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK I WILL DELETE MY NEGATIVE I LEFT YOU ASAP.


IT IS NOW UP TO YOU USERS.

Many Thanks
Altcoin4life
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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If it wasn't for Altcoin4life , I wouldn't have found this multi users / alt of using the same wallet

BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx all using the same wallet 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW and all claiming from the same give away archived here http://archive.is/NrBDK

15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW

Ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13733666

Just how people can be that stupid and use the same bitcoin address for all their alts? Don't you know that you can have unlimited bitcoin addresses...?

However: BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx banned from the giveaway
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
I just didn't felt that it is any serious issue but it so annoying as I see people putting it all over the lender.I mean what the fuck did the developer learned in his years of crypto experience if he is unable to prevent a simple hack ?

He is running a Coin and suddenly a gap of 2 weeks ?

However,the password is changed for the first time on 6th and if that was the time of hack then what the heck was the hacker waiting for and why wanted to pull off the scam while hacking it 8 days before ? Doesn't makes sense.

Lets assume the above reset was done by dev itself and he had complete control on the account.The next reset is on 13th and just one day before the loan,its not a single reset but was done thrice.However the user/hacker tried to scam in a variety of ways and urged others to send first.I am pretty sure all this process might have involved several pm's and he might have also received a pm from Altcoin4Life too(can be confirmed) but afaik you receive a pm notification to your e-mail but the dev ignored/missed this too ? lol but he is suddenly active as the loan is processed.I don't find this story to be a coincidence but i wouldn't conclude that he a pulled a scam.

If the dev would have been active in the mean time then he could have reported and no one would have ever loaned the hacker,right ? but you reported right after the loan was processed.Not convincing.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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On the same page that Altcoin4life loaning shanerc563 funds and the four aforementioned alts being found out...

Twitter : https://twitter.com/kikoben
17oQEWXUs2sy1QxMbzfTMpWt193rcD38KE

1: 18 days
2: 24
3: 23
4: Accessory cephalic arm
5: 13.33%

and a quick check of the wallet reviels a second user using the same wallet.

Done here is my twitter link https://twitter.com/kikoben thank you

17oQEWXUs2sy1QxMbzfTMpWt193rcD38KE

SFR10                       1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
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foreveryoung             1bgoJYa8GTxVcHKBstWDkMmVkA5JDywnv
btvGainer                  1CPg3RzkammQ5GXhsPQQbDkiWqXfb733zH  (Winner)
s1ng
hermesesus               1Ku1sRo7zJ71VSnnesiUrBoaWPDxoKaoAX
chichidori                  17oQEWXUs2sy1QxMbzfTMpWt193rcD38KE   (Forgot to add to list)


btvGainer I can wait until you have time to do your work. I'll send the money once I receive the avatar. Thanks!! Cheesy

And to everyone else, Sent!


https://blockchain.info/tx/22d73bd6b9bdad7fa9a207f7a3c2c45eec52a4e91799a8407a4e8b7cc42e1c82

like to join the roulette if i can listed thank you
17oQEWXUs2sy1QxMbzfTMpWt193rcD38KE
#11

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In summary, Sarahiko is an Alt of chichidori with both wallet 17oQEWXUs2sy1QxMbzfTMpWt193rcD38KE and Twitter : https://twitter.com/kikoben



Found due to Altcoin4life loaning shanerc563 funds.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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If it wasn't for Altcoin4life , I wouldn't have found this multi users / alt of using the same wallet

BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx all using the same wallet 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW and all claiming from the same give away archived here http://archive.is/NrBDK

15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW

Ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13733666

chanlance was the user one below shanerc563 who had taken out a loan from Altcoin4life in this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12749435

So, although chanlance isn't actually a customer of Altcoin4life (at least I don't this s/he is) I have been able to out BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx as being Alt's of each-other.

Thanks to Altcoin4life loaning shanerc563 funds.

Good eye sniffing those alts out buddy

Heh thanks - Have just discovered chanlance 's account is being held by Altcoin4life - I wonder if there will be tears?

Tomorrow, I'll pick another of Altcoin4life 's customers - pick another user one below them and do the same.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 501
If it wasn't for Altcoin4life , I wouldn't have found this multi users / alt of using the same wallet

BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx all using the same wallet 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW and all claiming from the same give away archived here http://archive.is/NrBDK

15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW

Ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13733666

chanlance was the user one below shanerc563 who had taken out a loan from Altcoin4life in this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12749435

So, although chanlance isn't actually a customer of Altcoin4life (at least I don't this s/he is) I have been able to out BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx as being Alt's of each-other.

Thanks to Altcoin4life loaning shanerc563 funds.

Good eye sniffing those alts out buddy
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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If it wasn't for Altcoin4life , I wouldn't have found this multi users / alt of using the same wallet

BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx all using the same wallet 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW and all claiming from the same give away archived here http://archive.is/NrBDK

15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW

Ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13733666

chanlance was the user one below shanerc563 who had taken out a loan from Altcoin4life in this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12749435

So, although chanlance isn't actually a customer of Altcoin4life (at least I don't this s/he is) I have been able to out BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx as being Alt's of each-other.

Thanks to Altcoin4life loaning shanerc563 funds.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
💲🏎️💨🚓
If it wasn't for Altcoin4life , I wouldn't have found this multi users / alt of using the same wallet

BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx
all using the same wallet 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW and all claiming from the same give away archived here http://archive.is/NrBDK

15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW




Loan amount : 0.01
Collateral : my account
Loan reason : Personal
Your BTC address : 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW
Repayment offered : 0.0115
Date of repayment : January 21

I accepted your loan request. I confirm that I took your account as collateral. The money has been sent. txID : 0bdc3839a3b124934e956ccca8ee410f6e6d8212f9d5df2fa5354e8fff4eb41c.



Liked & Retweeted.

https://twitter.com/jamulance

btc address: 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-0015-loan-1289315 (Locked thread) BiTZeD again...

https://twitter.com/Jamulance

15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW

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2. Macrocheira kaempferi
3. -15
4. C . earh
5. C. protons and neutrons



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239day still #90



15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW     Cheesy



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a tip would be good  15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12845106 (locked thread)

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BiTZeD , chanlance , SAMKUSH , kaomaxx all using the same wallet 15tatYMrey4ycztame4BkCV89fuDHv7rYW and all claiming from the same give away archived here http://archive.is/NrBDK

Altcoin4life : Any closer to removing the fake negative trust that you left me and some others?
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
Once again, Altcoin4life,
remove your bullshit negative feedback from the accounts you have tagged for whatever idiotic idea of how the feedback system works you have.
This situation seems solved right now, and I guess we would all be ready to only leave a neutral comment about it on your trust page,
however, with you leaving others and me 2 negatives for basically nothing, that's not how this situation will unfold.
Currently, you got all the cards in your hand (you returned the account, admitted making mistakes), but if you continue to stonewall and stall,
this might change.
Be smart over here, don't be a stupid, stubborn donkey
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
@The Pharmacist
You get a hacked account as collateral, basically losing 0.13 BTC ($50)
Somehow the original owner comes out of nowhere and says it was hacked.
Suspicious?
People start leaving you negative trust and not the owner of the supposed hacked account.
Basically; Lost $50, Lost collateral, Get negatives for not wanting to lose your money
Obviously he will leave feedback for those who left it for him.
How do we know that the original account isn't the one who just used that story to get a free 0.13?
So out of nowhere you jump into the conversation ? I suggest you study the topics and the situations thoroughly before posting comments .Let me clear that one for you.

So the hacked account tries to scam me for 0.50.I spread the word (through mex) and surprisingly the hacked account had already started his scam attempts .So Mexxer and few others (including me) left warning on his account .At the same time,the hacked account posted a request of 0.13 loan in altcoin4life's lending thread and the next post was mexxer's warning altcoin4life to not given him the loan, since the account is hacked.Ignoring the warning,altcoin4life took the account as collateral (without acknowledging the warning) and gave the loan.Loan gets defaulted with negative trust to the collateral.

Now when the real owner finds out about this,he messages altcoin4life to get his account back.He provided signed message on request and everything else to prove he is the true owner of the account (which he is).So how come its the owner's fault ,that his account got hacked ? Instead of giving the account to the rightful owner ,Altcoin4life did all sort of drama including asking money to cover up his loss.In which damn books of law this makes sense ?Whatever altcoin4life did was his and only his mistake despite of the big fuckin warning by mexxer-2.Now he is all whining about it and giving negative feedback to people who posted against him(including me).
member
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This is bullshit behavior on the part of altcoin, and why am I not surprised here?  He's only in this for himself and only agreed to return this account after people started leaving him (-) trust.  And now he's retaliating.  Fuck that.

I guess .13BTC is worth more than the reputation that he is trying to build, kudos for him for prolonging this sob story.

It might take awhile for him to get those red marks removed and the only users who will be interested in his lending thread are the scammers.

seriously, ruining your reputation and money making service for .13BTC

It would seem at this late hour that Altcoin4Life is stalling in removing his fraudulent accusation that I have scammed him for BTC 0.13 in the feedback / trust that he has left on my trust wall.

@The Pharmacist
You get a hacked account as collateral, basically losing 0.13 BTC ($50)
Somehow the original owner comes out of nowhere and says it was hacked.
Suspicious?
People start leaving you negative trust and not the owner of the supposed hacked account.
Basically; Lost $50, Lost collateral, Get negatives for not wanting to lose your money
Obviously he will leave feedback for those who left it for him.
How do we know that the original account isn't the one who just used that story to get a free 0.13?
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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This is bullshit behavior on the part of altcoin, and why am I not surprised here?  He's only in this for himself and only agreed to return this account after people started leaving him (-) trust.  And now he's retaliating.  Fuck that.

I guess .13BTC is worth more than the reputation that he is trying to build, kudos for him for prolonging this sob story.

It might take awhile for him to get those red marks removed and the only users who will be interested in his lending thread are the scammers.

seriously, ruining your reputation and money making service for .13BTC

It would seem at this late hour that Altcoin4Life is stalling in removing his fraudulent accusation that I have scammed him for BTC 0.13 in the feedback / trust that he has left on my trust wall.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
SWINGDEV, ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE PM, PLEASE CHANGE THE EMAIL AND THE PASSWORD (PLEASE CHOOSE A LONG SECURE NEW PASSWORD) OF MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT ASAP.

PLEASE MAKE A NEW SIGNED MESSAGE FROM THE ACCOUNT SAYING IT HAS BEEN RETURNED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER FROM ME, PLEASE POST IT HERE.


Done!

Thanks for coming through Altcoin4life. Much appreciated man.

Please post your address again for me.

(All of my personal messages have been wiped, but w/e I'm just happy this has come to a close  Grin)

Hi murderouskirk/swingdev

If you decide to pay something in the future, my address is

1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop

Thanks
Altcoin4life
legendary
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https://bpip.org
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is murderouskirk posting from murderouskirk. Altcoin4Life has returned my account! 11:44PM EST 1/20/2016 - \o/ Hooray!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71
H/tljcNY6VUWgEy7UB0S3m+hH24CNXCgnGByl81j/Oi6DFNJWGS7Y7Mfxr/9I66xLugx4kkpcxBieWvDDrPYbqc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Location of addy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12788990


Message checks out. Take good care of your account and tip Alcoin4life generously. I revised my feedback for both of you.
sr. member
Activity: 266
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is murderouskirk posting from murderouskirk. Altcoin4Life has returned my account! 11:44PM EST 1/20/2016 - \o/ Hooray!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71
H/tljcNY6VUWgEy7UB0S3m+hH24CNXCgnGByl81j/Oi6DFNJWGS7Y7Mfxr/9I66xLugx4kkpcxBieWvDDrPYbqc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Location of addy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12788990

verified
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
SWINGDEV, ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE PM, PLEASE CHANGE THE EMAIL AND THE PASSWORD (PLEASE CHOOSE A LONG SECURE NEW PASSWORD) OF MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT ASAP.

PLEASE MAKE A NEW SIGNED MESSAGE FROM THE ACCOUNT SAYING IT HAS BEEN RETURNED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER FROM ME, PLEASE POST IT HERE.


Done!

Thanks for coming through Altcoin4life. Much appreciated man.

Please post your address again for me.

(All of my personal messages have been wiped, but w/e I'm just happy this has come to a close  Grin)
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is murderouskirk posting from murderouskirk. Altcoin4Life has returned my account! 11:44PM EST 1/20/2016 - \o/ Hooray!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71
H/tljcNY6VUWgEy7UB0S3m+hH24CNXCgnGByl81j/Oi6DFNJWGS7Y7Mfxr/9I66xLugx4kkpcxBieWvDDrPYbqc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Location of addy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12788990
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
SWINGDEV, ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE PM, PLEASE CHANGE THE EMAIL AND THE PASSWORD (PLEASE CHOOSE A LONG SECURE NEW PASSWORD) OF MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT ASAP.

PLEASE MAKE A NEW SIGNED MESSAGE FROM THE ACCOUNT SAYING IT HAS BEEN RETURNED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER FROM ME, PLEASE POST IT HERE.
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