Topic: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan - page 3. (Read 5717 times)

HI

I HAVE NOW SENT A PM TO SWINGDEV WITH THE PASSWORD FOR MURDEROUSKIRK.

PLEASE CAN SWINGDEV CONFIRM THEY HAVE SECURED IT ASAP.

THANKS
ALTCOIN4LIFE

HI EVERYONE THIS IS ALTCOIN4LIFE LOGGED IN TO THE STOLEN ACCOUNT MURDEROUSKIRK.

IT LOOKS LIKE MY LOGIN PASSWORD IS WORKING, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE ACTUALLY LOGGED IN SINCE 14 JANUARY, THE DATE I ACTUALLY SECURED THIS ACCOUNT AS COLLATERAL.

I WILL NOW LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN TO ALTCOIN4LIFE

I WILL THEN PM THE PASSWORD FOR THIS ACCOUNT MURDEROUSKIRK TO SWINGDEV.

PLEASE WAIT SWINGDEV

THANKS
ALTCOIN4LIFE

Ok. Ready when you are.

Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your post.

THIS IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL ONLY GIVE YOUR PASSWORD AND ACCOUNT BACK BY PM TO SWINGDEV ACCOUNT AS THIS IS THE ACCOUNT THAT PROVIDED THE SIGNED MESSAGE.

YOU REQUESTED I SHOULD EMAIL IT, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

YOU WILL NOW RECEIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK BY PM TO SWINGDEV.


I agree with you that you have no control over others leaving me negative or even neutral trust.

TO THE USERS SAYING WHO LEFT ME BAD FEEDBACK AND SAID I LIED ABOUT THE AMOUNT LOST, YES THIS WAS A MISTAKE, I WAS SIMPLY REFERENCING THE AMOUNT I LOST ORIGINALLY TO MURDEROUSKIRK SCAM.  THIS WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO SAY THAT YOU PERSONALLY SCAMMED ME OF 0.13 BTC, I WILL REMOVE THIS REFERENCE.


FINALLY SWINGDEV, ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE PM, PLEASE CHANGE THE EMAIL AND THE PASSWORD (PLEASE CHOOSE A LONG SECURE NEW PASSWORD) OF MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT ASAP.

FINALLY PLEASE MAKE A NEW SIGNED MESSAGE FROM THE ACCOUNT SAYING IT HAS BEEN RETURNED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER FROM ME, PLEASE POST IT HERE.

YOU WILL RECEIVE A PM WITHIN 24 HOURS. PLEASE POST HERE CONFIRMING ACCOUNT HAS BEEN GIVEN BACK.



Many Thanks
Altcoin4life

i think you should get it back soon

Hi. I just wanted to point out that I semi-agree with you guys and take no offence. I've seen plenty of clever scams and known figures going rogue as well. I appreciate you looking at the situation from all sides. Things are not always black and white and I like to think that judging by these typed of posts you guys are willing to look at the pros and cons from all perspectives. I can respect that.

I do however stand by my story confidently. I didn't sell it or anything and I'm not going rogue for .13 btc. I think even trying to piece together circumstantial speculative evidence against me would be tough. You'd be trying to piece together a false story, and when that's the case conflicting information on the accusations will always remain prevalent.

Sorry guys, I know everyone in this community everyone loves the drama of a known figure popping but that's not the scenario playing out this time.

Hoping to hear how you want to proceed soon Altcoin4Life. If you've changed your mind and want to keep the account fine. I just ask that you help me direct the old Swing thread to one actually controlled by me, that way I can request a lock on the old on and have a forwarding link in the ANN. I'd strongly prefer not to have my Swing thread locked unless there's a forwarding link. No forwarding link in the ANN is shit tier SEO and and would cause versioning problems in the future. If you don't return the account and wont help me update the ANN I'll be stuck keeping to an un-editable thread.. that would impact a lot more people than just me.

Though It felt like we came to an agreement that time. I am curious what the delay is. I'm still not seeing any emails from Theymos yet so I can safely assume you still have access to MurderousKirk yes?

If it's rep issues you're waiting on I've done all I can on that front. If you want people to remove your negative rep resulting from this situation you will have to deal with them directly, just as I will have to do with MurderousKirk.

The only other thing I can think of is if you're attempting to invest in Swing to profit on the good news of a returned account and current low prices. If that's the case I suggest buying up the sell side and getting it done with. Large sales are uncommon at these rates.

yeah, thats why i said, just lets wait a bit.

mexxer warning him about the collateral/account right away, Altcoin not asking for a signed message from an address that wasn't only staked moments before, I could continue the list,
there were enough warnings/signs of some shady activity, may it be the account being sold or the account being hacked, it was pretty clear the account just changed hands.

We all posted neutral comments on Altcoin4Lifes profile (I even discussed with some other guy via PM whether or not it should be negative, and then opted for a neutral one instead),
and he started retaliating this with negative feedbacks, first one with a lied "risked amount" and then a second one that is just a straight utterly lie.
Hence, the only person currently acting like a 5y/o (one that previously has gotten his lolly taken away) is Altcoins4Life.

And dont misunderstand me, I can completely understand his pov. But I also think he made several mistakes going along with this current situation.

i was in contact with altcoin4life during the whole "mess" and suggested to hand the account back.

on the other hand and i want to stress out as a lender: no evidence of a hack has been presented. i dont say something happend here like swing just went rouge. i found my self in a situation like this a few months ago and i did the right thing right away. i didnt receive a "thank you" or some "cover" because someone else made a mistake. i can understand both sides.

how about all of us cool down a bit and just wait instead of going crazy like 5yr olds?

just my 2 cents

I don't get what is there to "solve". Altcoin4life, just return the damn account, or not, and move on. Stop mucking around with negative trust and general butthurt, nobody cares.

I guess .13BTC is worth more than the reputation that he is trying to build, kudos for him for prolonging this sob story.

It might take awhile for him to get those red marks removed and the only users who will be interested in his lending thread are the scammers.

seriously, ruining your reputation and money making service for .13BTC

Now I have to go to work, so I won't be able to look in for another twelve or more hours now.  I hope this nonsense is resolved before I get back.

This is bullshit behavior on the part of altcoin, and why am I not surprised here?  He's only in this for himself and only agreed to return this account after people started leaving him (-) trust.  And now he's retaliating.  Fuck that.

suchmoon , Lutpin and myself have now received a second negative trust - this time the trust doesn't carry a dollar value.


by saying you would only return the account with conditions attached. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13716500


You still haven't returned the account.  I may be fairly new to the business of spotting scammers.  But I sure can spot a temper tantrum when I see one.

You need, as a matter of urgency, to return the account as agreed.  If for no other reason than to save face.

So you honestly left me 2 negative feedbacks for "FALSE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK SPAM",
whilst all I did is posting a neutral comment on your profile, regarding this issue?

You are more and more looking like a clown here, your feedback to me (and others) says "while me and the original owner of hacked account are trying to solve the issue"
but from all I read, you are stonewalling SwingDev here, and only delaying the positive resolution of this whole mess.

Just as a reminder of the situation: You did something stupid, you made a mistake! And as an answer for a comment I made about this on your profile page,
you leave me 2 negative feedbacks?! Claiming a lost amount of 0.13btc in one of them?

I honestly believed in a positive end of this, but seeing that you just went rouge with all your feedbacks, I might have to let this go, and leave you a neg after all (which I still didn't do, get your facts straight, you clown).

Hi Altcoin4Life,

How / when do you want to proceed?

Thanks.

It is true that they have not lost money, but they put a risked amount of 0 BTC. You claim you had risked 0.13 BTC with suchmoon, which is not true (unless you were dealing in PMs).

Hi swingdev

Just to let you know i have removed the neg trust from your profile

Also to the others who have left me neg trust.....

I ACCEPT MY LENDING PRACTICES WHERE NOT UP TO STANDARD. THIS IS A GOOD REASON WHY II AM GIVING THE ACCOUNT BACK!


BUT YOU SHOULD BE PATIENT WHILE ME AND SWINGDEV TRY AND TALK AND SORT THIS ISSUE OUT.

INSTEAD YOU HAVE DECIDED TO LEAVE NEG TRUST AND YOU ARE THE ONE DOING TRUST ABUSE.

ALSO I KNOW THAT THE FEEDBACK SPAMMERS HAVE NOT LOST MONEY.... BUT THEY ARE SIMPLY LEAVING NEG TRUST WHILE THE ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN SOLVED.

Thanks

Well I got a neg too, even though my feedback for Altcoin4life was neutral and reflected on his/her lending practices, not the pissing match with SwingDev.


I guess the plan was to promise to return the account and get the feedback removed... but not necessarily actually return it. For now you're getting a neg for trust abuse. Note that this is still not about your account dispute but rather about your behavior and trustworthiness (or lack thereof) in general.

Here is the relevant PM:

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Exactly how in the negative feedback trust that you have left on my wall have I scammed you out of 0.13 BTC ?

Or SwingDev , or suchmoon or Lutpin for that matter?


You Altcoin4life are a lying - we have never traded.