📈 NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012) - page 187.

nonnakip

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Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:49:26 PM

I'm not even sure why the time limit is needed. Payouts to go addresses automagically

I already explain time limit. It allows donation and seat redistribution if you disappear. This is good for the other members that do not disappear.

Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:49:26 PM

voting on measures proposed have the no-shows defaulting to no-action currently.
If anything - the default action can be to support Nasty's proposal or abstain (and therefore not counted).

That is a good idea for a account setting. Maybe you can set what you want your default to be.

nonnakip

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Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:33:33 PM

and if you disappear?
We know you just as much as you know us. Trust works both ways

The interaction requirement is not for me. It is for everyone.

Your concern about me disappearing is valid. I did not think about this. Maybe the idea from ErebusBat was good. If I provide a signed list showing seat distribution and make it public then maybe you are happy? For it to be valuable it must show username and donation address and number of seats owned. Maybe some members do not want this information public?

laSeek

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Quote from: plasticAiredale on December 09, 2012, 06:47:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on December 09, 2012, 06:31:51 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

what happens if i forget my password ? i lose my dividends / (shares after 3 months) ?

Forcible "donation"

I think forcing people to interact with a shitty website is a bit too much.

If there is a big enough voting block maybe there will eventually be a poll to extend the inactive time, to years, or even eternity. You never know what us nasty fans will think is a fun duration time. Twice a year to check in on things seems plenty fun to me, but I could be swayed to vote to extend the time if such a poll was created.

I'm not even sure why the time limit is needed. Payouts to go addresses automagically - voting on measures proposed have the no-shows defaulting to no-action currently.
If anything - the default action can be to support Nasty's proposal or abstain (and therefore not counted).

plasticAiredale

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on December 09, 2012, 06:31:51 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

what happens if i forget my password ? i lose my dividends / (shares after 3 months) ?

Forcible "donation"

I think forcing people to interact with a shitty website is a bit too much.

If there is a big enough voting block maybe there will eventually be a poll to extend the inactive time, to years, or even eternity. You never know what us nasty fans will think is a fun duration time. Twice a year to check in on things seems plenty fun to me, but I could be swayed to vote to extend the time if such a poll was created.

laSeek

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Quote from: nonnakip on December 09, 2012, 06:31:10 PM

Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:00:31 PM

I just don't like being forced into interacting on something that shouldn't require any interaction

The forced interaction (1 sign in within 179 days) is because maybe you disappear... We do not want part of donations to nastyfans dumping to a black hole. If members disappear we redistribute the donations and seats.

and if you disappear?
We know you just as much as you know us. Trust works both ways

Don't get me wrong - I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing you - it's just that so far - the shareholders from glbse have been shafted & battered about and now we're forced to go through another bunch of hoops.. and separate sites for every share you held, each asking for a bunch of info, each with their own bugs, UI, policies..

laSeek

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Quote from: plasticAiredale on December 09, 2012, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:12:07 PM

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invalid pgp fingerprint
failed value test
invalid pgp fingerprint
invalid query
common.c:256

Updating my "donations" address gives the error above.. I've tried 2 addys now..

Can you change those awful post buttons (seriously - one form per button) to actualy url's?
Otherwise you end up with "confirm resubmission" when you try to go back on some pages..

You are probably running into the same problem I had. Try clearing out the pgp fingerprint data, so that the only data on your screen is your bitcoin address.

Cool - ta - that worked.. sloppy code on the site.
Why are we using pgp anyway? You have a bitcoind addy.. the bitcoin api supports signed messages - creating & verifying.
If you need to reset your password - you may as well sign a server generated message with your bitcoin address than with a pgp key.

Bitcoin Oz

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Quote from: ?? on ??

what happens if i forget my password ? i lose my dividends / (shares after 3 months) ?

Forcible "donation"

I think forcing people to interact with a shitty website is a bit too much.

nonnakip

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Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:00:31 PM

I just don't like being forced into interacting on something that shouldn't require any interaction

The forced interaction (1 sign in within 179 days) is because maybe you disappear... We do not want part of donations to nastyfans dumping to a black hole. If members disappear we redistribute the donations and seats.

plasticAiredale

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Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 06:12:07 PM

Quote

invalid pgp fingerprint
failed value test
invalid pgp fingerprint
invalid query
common.c:256

Updating my "donations" address gives the error above.. I've tried 2 addys now..

Can you change those awful post buttons (seriously - one form per button) to actualy url's?
Otherwise you end up with "confirm resubmission" when you try to go back on some pages..

You are probably running into the same problem I had. Try clearing out the pgp fingerprint data, so that the only data on your screen is your bitcoin address.

plasticAiredale

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Quote from: nonnakip on December 09, 2012, 05:39:12 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 09, 2012, 04:59:39 PM

Sounds like your browser may have done it.

I am certain the browser did it. Autofill crap.

Yeah I agree ( I actually figured it out on my own while i was showering, Tongue

). Anyway you could also change the name of the textboxes on the settings page from "password" and "fingerprint" to something like "oldpassword", and "fingerprint2" or something so that any autofill stuff won't apply after signing up and stuff. As I probably won't be the only one with autofill enabled in my browser. But that's just a suggestion. Grin

nonnakip

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Quote from: ?? on ??

what happens if i forget my password ?

If you forget your password but you have set a PGP fingerprint you can PM a signed message saying to reset your password. If you do not set a PGP fingerprint then do not lose your password.

Quote from: ?? on ??

i lose my dividends / (shares after 3 months) ?

This is in the policy. After 6 months you lose donations to you. After 9 months you lose your seats.

laSeek

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Quote

invalid pgp fingerprint
failed value test
invalid pgp fingerprint
invalid query
common.c:256

Updating my "donations" address gives the error above.. I've tried 2 addys now..

Can you change those awful post buttons (seriously - one form per button) to actualy url's?
Otherwise you end up with "confirm resubmission" when you try to go back on some pages..

laSeek

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Litecoin Core Developer

Quote from: l3sny on December 09, 2012, 06:05:20 PM

to laSeek:
I think you are gravitating towards becoming a hard core non official fan club member Grin

heh - Can I just be a fan of the operation and not a fan of the fans?

I look awful holding pompoms..

l3sny

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to laSeek:
I think you are gravitating towards becoming a hard core non official fan club member Grin

Gerco

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Quote from: nonnakip on December 09, 2012, 05:46:25 PM

If you want you can say what the Bitcoin address is and I will tell you why it is invalid.

The address I'm using is 12PLkshcHDxtUVNe5DseNmA78ngwFZW6eN. Seems like a perfectly valid address to me.

laSeek

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Quote from: l3sny on December 09, 2012, 05:51:58 PM

to laSeek:
Exactly. Forget about BTC and profits. We are now a non official fan club of OgNasty's mining operation. If you do not get it you cannot have fun. Grin

We are supporting him with donations. He sometimes donates something to us. That's how the fan club operates. It's about fun now. I am sure after a while you will like it Grin

heh.. I think Nasty is great - I think the fan club is a pile of steaming.. No offence but I'm not 12 - I don't want, and I don't have time to start scrap-booking.
I liked Nasty's op because he was one of the few that treated it as a business - he clearly defined what he was offering, how much it would cost and what you could expect back from it.

I just don't like being forced into interacting on something that shouldn't require any interaction

l3sny

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to laSeek:
Exactly. Forget about BTC and profits. We are now a non official fan club of OgNasty's mining operation. If you do not get it you cannot have fun. Grin

We are supporting him with donations. He sometimes donates something to us. That's how the fan club operates. It's all about fun now. I am sure after a while you will like it Grin

nebulus

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... it only gets better...

Quote from: laSeek on December 09, 2012, 05:47:08 PM

Ok - a dodgy email arrived claiming to come from Nasty's mining op and I pop here to find it's aparently legit and since the whole glbse mess - it appears a lot has changed with Nasty Mining..

Shares are now called seats?
Back dividends have now been used? and Nasty now holds onto the unsold shares?
With the purchase of new kit from our dividends - how does this reflect our ownership? Originally wasn't one share equiv to x hash/s?

I understand your feeling uncomfortable with having a large chunk of btc in your wallet - but I've not seen any explanation yet as to how this will make our current ownership any more valuable.

I'm annoyed at having to fill in another damn website with a bunch of stuff, run by somebody I don't know and having to give out my info again.
I understand you wanna verify things - but it's not even Nasty that's verifying it - it's a 3rd party site that uses a self signed cert with some bogus reasons as to why (a) it's self signed and (b) it doesn't validate.

Now I'm forced into visiting a fan-club where I have to login frequently or I'll be kicked out of my shares/seat?

Clearly, not a fan of fun...

laSeek

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Ok - a dodgy email arrived claiming to come from Nasty's mining op and I pop here to find it's aparently legit and since the whole glbse mess - it appears a lot has changed with Nasty Mining..

Shares are now called seats?
Back dividends have now been used? and Nasty now holds onto the unsold shares?
With the purchase of new kit from our dividends - how does this reflect our ownership? Originally wasn't one share equiv to x hash/s?

I understand your feeling uncomfortable with having a large chunk of btc in your wallet - but I've not seen any explanation yet as to how this will make our current ownership any more valuable.

I'm annoyed at having to fill in another damn website with a bunch of stuff, run by somebody I don't know and having to give out my info again.
I understand you wanna verify things - but it's not even Nasty that's verifying it - it's a 3rd party site that uses a self signed cert with some bogus reasons as to why (a) it's self signed and (b) it doesn't validate.

Now I'm forced into visiting a fan-club where I have to login frequently or I'll be kicked out of my shares/seat?

nonnakip

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Quote from: Gerco on December 09, 2012, 05:41:40 PM

I'm trying to create an account on that page, but it's not working for me.

invalid bitcoin address

Any ideas?

Enter a different Bitcoin address. The transfer code is the important part.

If you want you can say what the Bitcoin address is and I will tell you why it is invalid.

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