There are a few accounts with large number of BTC that have received from the account Bogart linked to.
Any more clues to be had out there? Nefario, that wallet that you have control of... can you confirm it's wallet address? Can you confirm that it has received and/or sent funds to the wallets that Nefario has control of?
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Does anyone have the glbse account address so we can check it against blockchain and find that tx?
http://blockchain.info/address/1FX22c76vybHJSJdCCjKHDHhcMDhDX87nw
My 50 BTC deposit is still sitting in this address. I believe this is the small fund that Theymos controls (or a part of it).
Earlier Theymos was very careful to say that these are anonymous user funds and do not belong to any user in particular, and that if he ends up distributing them to users, that it will be a fair and equitable distribution among all users.
This seems fair to me. I will not insist that my deposit be returned to me in full while other users go empty-handed just because of where it happened to end up.
When considering who you want to trust to hold and distribute these funds, consider the behavior of the involved parties so far. I don't think you'll need to look far to realize who has been forthright with us, engaged us, and given us reasonable answers, and who has told us nothing and made demands that make little sense if the intent were to actually repay users, but make lots if sense if the intent is to abscond with all of the user funds.
Maybe some other depositor can trace their funds to find this supposed 4000-8000 BTC address, and see if they are in fact still unspent. Or maybe someone who is inherently privy to this knowledge can just post the address. :hint: :hint:
Felt your post needed to be unburried from the bottom of the page
I honestly can't follow this saga fast enough.
Matthewh3 has provide us useful information (or claim)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.msg1249833;boardseen#new
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.msg1249833;boardseen#new
Does anyone have the glbse account address so we can check it against blockchain and find that tx?
http://blockchain.info/address/1FX22c76vybHJSJdCCjKHDHhcMDhDX87nw
My 50 BTC deposit is still sitting in this address. I believe this is the small fund that Theymos controls (or a part of it).
Earlier Theymos was very careful to say that these are anonymous user funds and do not belong to any user in particular, and that if he ends up distributing them to users, that it will be a fair and equitable distribution among all users.
This seems fair to me. I will not insist that my deposit be returned to me in full while other users go empty-handed just because of where it happened to end up.
When considering who you want to trust to hold and distribute these funds, consider the behavior of the involved parties so far. I don't think you'll need to look far to realize who has been forthright with us, engaged us, and given us reasonable answers, and who has told us nothing and made demands that make little sense if the intent were to actually repay users, but make lots if sense if the intent is to abscond with all of the user funds.
Maybe some other depositor can trace their funds to find this supposed 4000-8000 BTC address, and see if they are in fact still unspent. Or maybe someone who is inherently privy to this knowledge can just post the address. :hint: :hint:
theymos, have you discussed on your shareholders' meeting about why GLBSE don't just use the exiting trading platform to return the bitcoin to its users? why he create the trouble and delay to start another new system to return the bitcoin?
He wants to require AML info before allowing withdrawals.
Actually he was asked to send the coins to CHM before the meeting, when he said he was going to sell his shares.
He refused because he wanted to hand them over to the new guy who bought his shares or whoever took over his position.
He refused because he wanted to hand them over to the new guy who bought his shares or whoever took over his position.
bitcoin.me is a BitcoinGlobal shareholder who is clearly being fed lies by Nefario.
Nefario previously asked me to send him the entire treasury because I was selling my shares. I refused because I am still the treasurer and it is my duty to hold the funds and dispense them according to shareholder motions until I am no longer treasurer.
The recent motion was to send the funds to BitcoinGlobal's accountant, ColdHardMetal. He never sent me an address because he's uncomfortable with handling such large amounts of BTC. CHM just sent an email to all shareholders about this.
theymos, have you discussed on your shareholders' meeting about why GLBSE don't just use the exiting trading platform to return the bitcoin to its users? why he create the trouble and delay to start another new system to return the bitcoin?
Regarding the 800BTC you hold. When he really still would hold 8000BTC why should he need the 800BTC? Didnt he want them for lawyer cost? And doesnt this imply that he doesnt even has 800BTC to pay the lawyer?
Or you think he only want them to put them into his new project?
Or you think he only want them to put them into his new project?
He doesn't need the 800 BTC to start paying back users.
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Others say you should send it to ColdHardMetal and not to nefario. Whats correct?
I'm to send it to ColdHardMetal, who will presumably send it to Nefario at some point.
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So you mean 4-5 shareholders have the password and 2-3 would make a backup? That would be cool if it happens because then it doesnt all depend on nefario. In case he runs crazy we would have still the list of assets owned by what person. Even better 2 shareholders independently downloaded the datebase so that not one shareholder could manipulate it and we could compare.
So if possible i would try this. Just in case.
So if possible i would try this. Just in case.
Nefario encrypted his entire password database with a shared key using Shamir's secret sharing. 4 out of the 5 shareholders Nefario selected would need to agree in order to access the database at all. There aren't enough people in agreement.
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And is that correct then theymos? Or dont you think its the correct address? I mean its not hard to guess who are the shareholder in the thread and i dont see your actions here as if you want to scam. But hearing that usermoney isnt sent while you could do probably could be a bit worrying for persons that hold money at glbse.
This is not true.
Actually he was asked to send the coins to CHM before the meeting, when he said he was going to sell his shares.
He refused because he wanted to hand them over to the new guy who bought his shares or whoever took over his position.
He refused because he wanted to hand them over to the new guy who bought his shares or whoever took over his position.
bitcoin.me is a BitcoinGlobal shareholder who is clearly being fed lies by Nefario.
Nefario previously asked me to send him the entire treasury because I was selling my shares. I refused because I am still the treasurer and it is my duty to hold the funds and dispense them according to shareholder motions until I am no longer treasurer.
The recent motion was to send the funds to BitcoinGlobal's accountant, ColdHardMetal. He never sent me an address because he's uncomfortable with handling such large amounts of BTC. CHM just sent an email to all shareholders about this.
The owner of mpex hosts it on his servers. Just search the forums lots of people reference it.
child porn
oO What the fuck... such persons are here?
You do however constantly ignore questions about the pron that is hosted on the domain that is beyond forgiveness. Why would you even be willing to work with a company that hosts child porn. Its disgusting, and I doubt you will even respond to this post.
I would count that as withholding your relationship.
I would count that as withholding your relationship.
Just gather some private investment and dont allow public trading of the shares. Thats how the company that runs glbse itself functions.
Nice to see you were shitting all over MPEx while being secretly involved with the Global Scam Exchange, you despicable shill you.
Yeah pot WTF WHY YOU SO BLACK, Kettles like me would never be that black.
You're a little confused, aren't you.
The guy was withholding his relationship while making false claims about MPEx. Just like that MrBiggs failpiece. I was never withholding my relationship while making factual claims about GLBSE.
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Would you or somebody else be so kind as to show the proof of the Mt Gox spike?
A spike on mtgox doesnt show that nefario has sold coins
why is this even relevant?a transaction ID that links a BTC transaction to the GLBSE just before closing would be incriminating.
however the person making this claim has in the same post as he made the claim admitted that it is fine to jump to his own concllusions with no evidence therefore IMO weaking his own allegations. If he is going to make allegations such as this after discrediting himself he should need to provide evidence if he is to be taken seriously.
Are you ignorant or have you just not read my posts?
I am guessing he is converting btc to fiat and OMG OMG OMG WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT YOU ARE GUESSING AND YOU THINK THIS
You keep thinking I am admitting to jumping to my own conclusions. I wasn't admitting anything, I was clarifying what my original statement was to you.
Just gather some private investment and dont allow public trading of the shares. Thats how the company that runs glbse itself functions.
Nice to see you were shitting all over MPEx while being secretly involved with the Global Scam Exchange, you despicable shill you.
Yeah pot WTF WHY YOU SO BLACK, Kettles like me would never be that black.
Just gather some private investment and dont allow public trading of the shares. Thats how the company that runs glbse itself functions.
Nice to see you were shitting all over MPEx while being secretly involved with the Global Scam Exchange, you despicable shill you.
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Would you or somebody else be so kind as to show the proof of the Mt Gox spike?
A spike on mtgox doesnt show that nefario has sold coins
why is this even relevant?a transaction ID that links a BTC transaction to the GLBSE just before closing would be incriminating.
however the person making this claim has in the same post as he made the claim admitted that it is fine to jump to his own concllusions with no evidence therefore IMO weaking his own allegations. If he is going to make allegations such as this after discrediting himself he should need to provide evidence if he is to be taken seriously.
What evidence for the phrase "I'd say"? My thoughts and opinions. I don't need "evidence" to say my opinion and speculation.
My evidence that he is scamming everyone? A friend tried to "invest" ~150BTC and wasn't able to because of an error with the website, emailed Nefario who responded that he "fixed" the problem and try and send again.... 5 minutes later the website was shutdown with the index page replaced. Looks like my friend had the unfortunate experience of sending money during the time he was shutting everything down, he actually re-enabled the site just to get that extra BTC and then shut it down immediately after.
If he was shutting it down due to legal issues, why would he accept ~150BTC 5 minutes before turning out the lights?
The writing is on the wall folks, this is just the latest scam in bitcoin history.
That alone should get that scammer tag assigned and be enough to stop him from getting the btc from theymos. Do you have the tx?
It would be helpful to see the proof of this as the person who said this has also just admitted to jumping to his own conclusions without evidence.
Trolls.... I will explain this for other people reading though...
The phrase "I'd say" is a way of guessing in english. So when I say "I'd say he has fiat instead of bitcoins" it is guessing that he might have converted it and implying in the guess that he scammed everyone. A guess does not need "evidence" because it isn't a fact.
http://esl.about.com/od/grammarstructures/a/f_guess.htm
And as far as proof being submitted.... I wish this person would, I've asked and urged them to, however at this point they know they've become a victim of a scam and don't see coming out in the open and losing their privacy as a benefit to themselves at all.
If you don't want to believe me, that's fine, doesn't bother me at all. I know that when everything is said and done that everyone will see it for a scam.
Want to put your BTC where your mouth is? 5btc bet escrowed with gweedo that all the money and btc is not paid back?
I fully understand the "I say" part, even when I read it the first time. Would you or somebody else be so kind as to show the proof of the Mt Gox spike?
Thanks, oldschool.
~Bruno K~
I saw a 9k volume right before the price started dropping yesterday, made me start thinking that some of that could have been glbse funds, I joked with my friend that his btc had just gotten converted to fiat, it was 19:00 mt gox.
@oldschools, you should give evidence. Or at least you can persuade your friend to submit his evidence to the shareholder of GLBSE, like theymos, so they can vote for the right decision.
What makes me wondering is that why Nefario cannot just make it simple, just open the GLBSE but stop all trading function, and let the users to withdraw the bitcoin? (that's how some other bitcoin exchanges shut themselves down.) At the same time, Nefario will be able to prepare the issuer-shareholder relationship transfer mechanism. Nefario has increased the difficult for the users obtain their bitcoin.
What makes me wondering is that why Nefario cannot just make it simple, just open the GLBSE but stop all trading function, and let the users to withdraw the bitcoin? (that's how some other bitcoin exchanges shut themselves down.) At the same time, Nefario will be able to prepare the issuer-shareholder relationship transfer mechanism. Nefario has increased the difficult for the users obtain their bitcoin.
When I see them online next I will request they speak directly with theymos on the issue. I think this is a good idea. I'll also ask if I can disclose tx id or any other info.
What makes me wondering is that why Nefario cannot just make it simple, just open the GLBSE but stop all trading function, and let the users to withdraw the bitcoin? (that's how some other bitcoin exchanges shut themselves down.) At the same time, Nefario will be able to prepare the issuer-shareholder relationship transfer mechanism. Nefario has increased the difficult for the users obtain their bitcoin.
According to the statement on GLBSE some system is being prepared to enable this.
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