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Shadow383

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Quote from: mc_lovin on October 07, 2012, 10:10:55 PM

How much notice do you think he had? For him to message me that afternoon saying it is safe to deposit money, and then the site going offline 12-18 hours later, do you not find that a bit suspicious?

I don't think he got a takedown notice that day. It was a scam, and I am going to discuss this with my lawyer and see what we can do about it.

edit: is this his current information, does anyone know?

http://networktools.nl/whois/glbse.com

Hmm interesting, I wasn't aware that he'd contacted anyone so close to the shutdown like that.

Quote from: galambo on October 07, 2012, 10:51:09 PM

Quote from: Garr255 on October 07, 2012, 10:42:46 PM

At the end of all of this if you're still right, ask me and I'll give you a bitcoin Tongue

To quote a source who puts it plainly...

Quote

Well, times have changed. I became convinced that the SEC had gone mainstream when it was featured on the Simpsons a couple years ago. Homer unwittingly gets caught up in a company gone bad. The SEC swoops in and arrests him, and he gets sent to prison. But, unlike the depictions on this and other shows, we do not carry M-16s, chase down yachts of inside traders in SEC police boats, or parachute James Bond style into illicit corporate board meetings. It is much tamer than that. We don’t carry guns; we have no boats; we have no planes. We do not even have authority to arrest people.

http://www.sec.gov/news/speech/2006/spch102006psa.htm

So what you're saying is, securities fraud isn't an arrestable offence?

You might want to rethink that.

Quote from: Garr255 on October 07, 2012, 10:42:46 PM

The phone number is correct. I know because I just gave him a call ( Cool

), and he said users funds will be available ~six hours after he wakes up.

I only had a minute of credit on my Google Voice account so I wasn't able to ask anything further, and I don't really want to wake him up again after refilling my google account...

Just the fact that he picked up the phone is a really good sign.

At 3am too.
Jesus, I wouldn't pick up the phone at 3am (if I wasn't a raging insomniac that is...)
Best of luck to yourself by the way, I was maybe 3-4 days from announcing a mining IPO myself, quite glad I didn't now if I'm honest Cheesy

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Quote from: Garr255 on October 07, 2012, 10:42:46 PM

At the end of all of this if you're still right, ask me and I'll give you a bitcoin Tongue

To quote a source who puts it plainly...

Quote

Well, times have changed. I became convinced that the SEC had gone mainstream when it was featured on the Simpsons a couple years ago. Homer unwittingly gets caught up in a company gone bad. The SEC swoops in and arrests him, and he gets sent to prison. But, unlike the depictions on this and other shows, we do not carry M-16s, chase down yachts of inside traders in SEC police boats, or parachute James Bond style into illicit corporate board meetings. It is much tamer than that. We don’t carry guns; we have no boats; we have no planes. We do not even have authority to arrest people.

http://www.sec.gov/news/speech/2006/spch102006psa.htm

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Quote from: mc_lovin on October 07, 2012, 10:10:55 PM

How much notice do you think he had? For him to message me that afternoon saying it is safe to deposit money, and then the site going offline 12-18 hours later, do you not find that a bit suspicious?

I don't think he got a takedown notice that day. It was a scam, and I am going to discuss this with my lawyer and see what we can do about it.

edit: is this his current information, does anyone know?

http://networktools.nl/whois/glbse.com

Could you clarify which day "that day" was. The IRC log refers to him having a lawyer's appointment on Wednesday (UK time) last week. It's what he found out at that appointment which seems to have led him to hit the eject button. The major thing he'd expressed concern about was the AML implications of GLBSE's activities. None of us know whether he consulted a lawyer who specialises in financial services law or a generalist lawyer, but there certainly seems to be a relationship between that consultation with a lawyer on Wednesday and the closure of GLBSE.

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Quote from: mc_lovin on October 07, 2012, 10:10:55 PM

How much notice do you think he had? For him to message me that afternoon saying it is safe to deposit money, and then the site going offline 12-18 hours later, do you not find that a bit suspicious?

I don't think he got a takedown notice that day. It was a scam, and I am going to discuss this with my lawyer and see what we can do about it.

edit: is this his current information, does anyone know?

http://networktools.nl/whois/glbse.com

The phone number is correct. I know because I just gave him a call ( Cool

), and he said users funds will be available ~six hours after he wakes up.

I only had a minute of credit on my Google Voice account so I wasn't able to ask anything further, and I don't really want to wake him up again after refilling my google account...

Just the fact that he picked up the phone is a really good sign.

Quote from: galambo on October 07, 2012, 10:36:09 PM

I can promise you one thing: If the SEC does indeed "show up" they will not be sending anyone to jail.

At the end of all of this if you're still right, ask me and I'll give you a bitcoin Tongue

And man, I hope you're right.

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Quote from: MrTeal on October 07, 2012, 10:28:21 PM

If the SEC ... really shows up the people they go after will end up in jail.

I can promise you one thing: If the SEC does indeed "show up" they will not be sending anyone to jail.

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The SEC is too busy watching porn and dealing with 600 million other ponzi schemes. If they show up out here Im sure they will be dealt with wolf creek style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8duRDsS8E lol

Haha... Seriously? You think the Bitcoin community is going to "take care" of the SEC if they start investigating? If the SEC or whatever local securities agency really shows up the people they go after will end up in jail.

Our collective internet nerd rage can't track do anything to Intersango, Zhou or Pirate, and they're pretty much all well doxed public figures who are pretty average dudes who are just scammy fucks. I hardly think federal agents need to be quaking in their boots.

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Quote from: mc_lovin on October 07, 2012, 10:10:55 PM

How much notice do you think he had? For him to message me that afternoon saying it is safe to deposit money, and then the site going offline 12-18 hours later, do you not find that a bit suspicious?

I don't think he got a takedown notice that day. It was a scam, and I am going to discuss this with my lawyer and see what we can do about it.

edit: is this his current information, does anyone know?

http://networktools.nl/whois/glbse.com

If Nefario was and is sane, he will know that you and @oldschool's friend will call this a scam, and lawyers and police will involve. This action itself is a crime. He is not an anonymous member, the 200 bitcoin or 8000 bitcoin does not pay off such a scamming crime. So many community members will want him. So I still bet that Nefario is not scamming our Bitcoin away. the price he is going to pay is too huge for him.

I think your lawyer will help.

Have you tried to contact Nefario himself personally? Or anyone can help asking Nefario about this suspicious activity, like @Matthewh3. Why Nefario is reluctant to explain his situation publicly is quite weird, too.

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Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:30:56 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

I don't imagine Nef had much notice at all, I'm not sure if you understand how serious the legal issues are surrounding this. There is every chance that multiple members of the bitcoin community will be charged with securities fraud and face jail time over this. Think about it, Nefario has ID on a whole variety of people who are/were issuing unlicensed securities. Further issuers are already well known. This whole situation has the potential for very serious consequences for a number of members.

How much notice do you think he had? For him to message me that afternoon saying it is safe to deposit money, and then the site going offline 12-18 hours later, do you not find that a bit suspicious?

I don't think he got a takedown notice that day. It was a scam, and I am going to discuss this with my lawyer and see what we can do about it.

edit: is this his current information, does anyone know?

http://networktools.nl/whois/glbse.com

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Quote from: oldschool on October 07, 2012, 08:49:28 PM

They MAY decide to investigate GLBSE after the BCTST investigation, but these investigators are already busy with another investigation. They typically do not multitask on whitecollar crimes.

They do, however, information share with other, equivalent agencies, both domestically and overseas. If they discover something which may be of relevance to another agency, they typically turn that information over to that agency for further investigation. Most Western nations have formal information sharing agreements with each other regarding financial crimes.

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Quote from: oldschool on October 07, 2012, 08:49:28 PM

Quote from: Bogart on October 07, 2012, 08:37:57 PM

Quote from: oldschool on October 07, 2012, 08:32:07 PM

...just curious on references if possible to the SEC knowingly investigating GLBSE, I''d be very curious to become educated on that and any other threads/information regarding SEC or government involvement other than just what Nefarios said.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

http://pastie.org/4791945/wrap

This is just an investigation on BCTST not GLBSE... This is to find out everyone who was a victim of BCTST both directly and indirectly through pass throughs, this has nothing to do with an investigation on GLBSE.

They MAY decide to investigate GLBSE after the BCTST investigation, but these investigators are already busy with another investigation. They typically do not multitask on whitecollar crimes.

When people phoned them they were asking questions about GLBSE as well and were clearly very interested in the exchange. I think BitcoinINV was saying that he'd been told action was likely to be taken against GLBSE.

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Quote from: Bogart on October 07, 2012, 08:37:57 PM

Quote from: oldschool on October 07, 2012, 08:32:07 PM

...just curious on references if possible to the SEC knowingly investigating GLBSE, I''d be very curious to become educated on that and any other threads/information regarding SEC or government involvement other than just what Nefarios said.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

http://pastie.org/4791945/wrap

This is just an investigation on BCTST not GLBSE... This is to find out everyone who was a victim of BCTST both directly and indirectly through pass throughs, this has nothing to do with an investigation on GLBSE.

They MAY decide to investigate GLBSE after the BCTST investigation, but these investigators are already busy with another investigation. They typically do not multitask on whitecollar crimes.

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Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:24:16 PM

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

He's definitely acting in his own best interests. I also suspect that he knows this forum well enough to realise that if refunds don't start flowing soon people will start filing complaints with the FSA, the SEC and other regulators making his worst nightmare come true. His best interests in this case are served by returning funds as soon as possible.

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This is not the type of thing that one must immediately start destroying evidence or shutting down servers etc. Everything takes time, investigations have to get enough evidence to get search warrants to retrieve data etc. Judges will not sign off on search warrants without knowing they have sufficient evidence to issue a warrant in the first place.

This is location dependent. In some places, regulators already have the statutory authority to demand information without having to obtain a court order and there are penalties for refusing to provide that information on demand.

If it's AML he's concerned about - as stated - he won't get any advanced warning. It's illegal in most FATF countries to tip off someone to the existence of an AML investigation.

At this point, Nefario should be taking advice only from a lawyer who specialises in financial services and securities law. If he follows the advice of internet strangers, he won't have a leg to stand on if the shit hits the fan and regulators do go after GLBSE.

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Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:34:54 PM

Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:30:56 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

I don't imagine Nef had much notice at all, I'm not sure if you understand how serious the legal issues are surrounding this. There is every chance that multiple members of the bitcoin community will be charged with securities fraud and face jail time over this. Think about it, Nefario has ID on a whole variety of people who are/were issuing unlicensed securities. Further issuers are already well known. This whole situation has the potential for very serious consequences for a number of members.

Looks like he did given his week of silence before closing. You cant say he didnt have much time. That is a cop-out.

I have not been the suspect, but I have been involved and seen several government investigations, and just the nature of the beast most white collar crimes the suspect had advance knowledge of an investigation pending. This is not the type of thing that one must immediately start destroying evidence or shutting down servers etc. Everything takes time, investigations have to get enough evidence to get search warrants to retrieve data etc. Judges will not sign off on search warrants without knowing they have sufficient evidence to issue a warrant in the first place. Investigators work normal shifts and have other caseloads. This is not a fast process in most cases. Everything I've seen points to the fact that he only talked to a lawyer out of fear, not investigation. Even if he was approached, the lawyer would have advised him on a expected timeframe.

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Quote from: oldschool on October 07, 2012, 08:32:07 PM

...just curious on references if possible to the SEC knowingly investigating GLBSE, I''d be very curious to become educated on that and any other threads/information regarding SEC or government involvement other than just what Nefarios said.

http://pastie.org/4791945/wrap

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

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Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:30:56 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

I don't imagine Nef had much notice at all, I'm not sure if you understand how serious the legal issues are surrounding this. There is every chance that multiple members of the bitcoin community will be charged with securities fraud and face jail time over this. Think about it, Nefario has ID on a whole variety of people who are/were issuing unlicensed securities. Further issuers are already well known. This whole situation has the potential for very serious consequences for a number of members.

Looks like he did given his week of silence before closing. You cant say he didnt have much time. That is a cop-out.

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Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

Not saying I don't believe you, just curious on references if possible to the SEC knowingly investigating GLBSE, I''d be very curious to become educated on that and any other threads/information regarding SEC or government involvement other than just what Nefarios said.

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Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

I don't imagine Nef had much notice at all, I'm not sure if you understand how serious the legal issues are surrounding this. There is every chance that multiple members of the bitcoin community will be charged with securities fraud and face jail time over this. Think about it, Nefario has ID on a whole variety of people who are/were issuing unlicensed securities. Further issuers are already well known. This whole situation has the potential for very serious consequences for a number of members.

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Quote from: smoothie on October 07, 2012, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

+over 9000

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Quote from: Shadow383 on October 07, 2012, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

So Nefario says nothing and ends up holding customer funds when he could announce ahead of time him closing. He had his own interests in mind. that is all.

Shadow383

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 07, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: repentance on October 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned. There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.

Look, I know you love raving about how shit GLBSE is/was, but let's look at the facts here:

-The SEC was investigating Pirate.
-Through that investigation, they became interested in GLBSE, and there was some suggestion that they would take action against it, initially with regard to the pirate-pass-through operations.
-Next, Nefario pulled the listings of the PPT operations, as well as the account of the biggest issuer of PPT bonds.
-Then, Nefario shuts the site down in a great hurry, apparently under legal pressure.

Now, personally the first thought into my head when trawling through this clusterfuck is not "It must be Nefario's fault". The SEC was known to be interested in GLBSE at least a week before it went down.

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