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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 228. (Read 661498 times)

newbie
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Their is an article on CoinDesk right now about the carbon footprint of bitcoin. Some of you guys and gals can post additional comments in the discussion about the benefits of NEM.
http://www.coindesk.com/carbon-footprint-bitcoin/

Good!!!  I feeling strong about this. I agree we should all make a comment on this article.
hero member
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Any updates?! When is the launch of this coin? Waiting a long time now.

is it SO hard to read the original post?
legendary
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Any updates?! When is the launch of this coin? Waiting a long time now.
sr. member
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I am an early stakeholder but I am not very techy at all. I only know  download file - extract lol. Will there be an easy to explain guide for us crypto ladies who are not so very well versed in code? Grin
full member
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NEM Enthusiast
Guys, just press 'ignore' for the trolls (especially brand new accounts). Don't quote them and spread their nonsense, it's what they want.
full member
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NEM Enthusiast
On a different note...
is there any news concerning the final and definitive stakeholder list?
Considering what UP told us in the developmental update; if we expect the alpha launch for late april; will we need some weeks in advance to have the definitive list of stakeholders, some time to discuss all the complaints and then, another time for the assignation of new stakes to the people in t the waiting list. Or is there some another announcement that I lost?  Huh

I'm pretty sure he said the Development Contract will be announced a couple of weeks prior to the alpha launch... Considering there is no definitive ETA for the alpha launch, there isn't a definitive ETA for the Development Contract either.

Quote here:

Development update:

The development contract announcement will be delayed. My plan is to have the announcement when we have a clear road map of NEM development going forward and preferably within 1-2 weeks of the alpha launch. Unfortunately, at this point we don't have an ETA for the alpha launch yet and consequently, the formal announcement is delayed. My guesstimate of the Alpha is still on later part of April but there are quite a few things that needs to be worked on before we can make a solid ETA.

Hope this helps.
member
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On a different note...
is there any news concerning the final and definitive stakeholder list?
Considering what UP told us in the developmental update; if we expect the alpha launch for late april; will we need some weeks in advance to have the definitive list of stakeholders, some time to discuss all the complaints and then, another time for the assignation of new stakes to the people in t the waiting list. Or is there some another announcement that I lost?  Huh
member
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NEM is a scam! nothing new except for the stupid discussion of stakeholder!
most members of the team of NEM(jaguar0625, bloodyrookie, thies1965, borzalom, gimre makoto and minusbalancer), except UP, are inactive! it seems that UP hopes to fund more money taking advantage of the   exiting strong community(ie, there is a waiting list).
anyway, UP doesnot deserve our trust!

Welcome to my Ignore List!    Grin

Hilarious! Grin Grin
newbie
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NEM is a scam! nothing new except for the stupid discussion of stakeholder!
most members of the team of NEM(jaguar0625, bloodyrookie, thies1965, borzalom, gimre makoto and minusbalancer), except UP, are inactive! it seems that UP hopes to fund more money taking advantage of the   exiting strong community(ie, there is a waiting list).
anyway, UP doesnot deserve our trust!
full member
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The gui is a lot of eye candy. I hope to get my hands on some before it hits the exchanges. I think we'll see the true definition of "to da moooooooon".
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Their is an article on CoinDesk right now about the carbon footprint of bitcoin. Some of you guys and gals can post additional comments in the discussion about the benefits of NEM.
http://www.coindesk.com/carbon-footprint-bitcoin/

I left a comment and I did mention Nem, but I'm afraid of others going there and spamming the comment section. So I would suggest for people to not comment unless it's not forced and it really relates to the article. Simply for name awareness. As long as there are a couple of comments, people will get it.
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As far as wallet security goes, I have always thought that the wallet.dat file poses a huge unnecessary security risk (since malware or a hacker can easily scan the computer for wallet.dat). I think we should copy the approach that exocoin is taking when it comes to wallet security:

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secure wallets: Using a random file (created by the gui/cmd tool) or a file of your choice (image, sound file, system file etc). Only you should know what file is needed for your authentication. Then you could store your 10,000 photos from your last holiday on an usb stick. Only you will know what special picture will unlock your account!

A secret file to unlock your account. Or at the very least, allow the user to create a custom name and filesystem location for the wallet.dat file.

This is a pretty cool idea.
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newbie
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Their is an article on CoinDesk right now about the carbon footprint of bitcoin. Some of you guys and gals can post additional comments in the discussion about the benefits of NEM.
http://www.coindesk.com/carbon-footprint-bitcoin/
full member
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🌟 æternity🌟 blockchain🌟
We should have a feature where people are sending NEM (money) to each other can have a live conversation to make sure that it is the person you are sending it too. would that  be possible.?
But make it only connect to both parties who are making the transactions?

Messages?
live conversation:I think that is  voice or Video...

whoa..that would be crazy, lt could help to make trading in general much more trustworthy, I also think that it has potential to open a new market of online tutorials, ranging from learnig to play an instrument, through language and self development courses to web cam ladies.
This could positively distinguish NEM from similar projects.

My vision of crypto platform, that will steal future, is much more than currency. Im looking forward to a new internet, based not on information and entertainment but on personal bussines affairs. Evolutionary, I think we are as species heading towards a technology based system with no need for manual work in current understanding. In future every person will be trying to be a bussinesman of some sort. Crypto would be used as "MySpace" for every producer, artist, craftsman, trader and any enthusiast that have something to offer. Internet with all its current features based on immediate  transfer of economic values, is exactly what free market needs to fulfill its meaning.

It certainly would be a New economic model, a true free market driven just by demand and supply. No psychology exploiting marketers. No mega corporations. No banksters. No monopols. An upgrade to corrupted and obsolete system manipulated for small groups benefit. Every skilled, talented and willing person connected to system could earn economic values in a fast, efficient and secure way.

Imagine cypto platform that would contain its own version of browser, youtube, instagram, ebay, personal video channels, different markets, filesharing services, etc...

I think this model would certainly be attractive, to every musician, pohotographer, designer, tutor, trader and bussinesman anyone who creates something or can teach any skill, I mean these markets are already booming, but I feel like current phaze of heftiness works against it. There are plenty of young talented people who feel limited by current economic mechanisms.

I heard some experts, who critically analyse market, that reason why is everything corrupted and manipulated, is beacuse capital moves too fast compared to system mechanisms that are installed now. So basically, capital overruns them. Crypto is natural step towards system that can meet economic demands.

So how much unrealistic is to want to have this type of platform that could cover all I was writing about, from technical aspect? And is there a possibility, that NEM could ever develope in to this platform?
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We bow in its aura
We should have a feature where people are sending NEM (money) to each other can have a live conversation to make sure that it is the person you are sending it too. would that  be possible.?
But make it only connect to both parties who are making the transactions?

Messages?
live conversation:I think that is  voice or Video...

whoa..that would be crazy, lt could help to make trading in general much more trustworthy, I also think that it has potential to open a new market of online tutorials, ranging from learnig to play an instrument, through language and self development courses to web cam ladies.
This could positively distinguish NEM from similar projects.
full member
Activity: 174
Merit: 100
We should have a feature where people are sending NEM (money) to each other can have a live conversation to make sure that it is the person you are sending it too. would that  be possible.?
But make it only connect to both parties who are making the transactions?

Messages?
live conversation:I think that is  voice or Video...
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
We should have a feature where people are sending NEM (money) to each other can have a live conversation to make sure that it is the person you are sending it too. would that  be possible.?
But make it only connect to both parties who are making the transactions?

Messages?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
As it was said before, whatever we do with the wallet and app, our most important filters should be simplicity and ease of use. I am convinced this will be one of the important things that make or break Nem in the long run.

In other words a one click install client would be just great to begin with.
I also think maybe it would be interesting for the Nem client to have 2 skins. Meaning one simple and very user friendly interface with just a few basic options and another interface for the more advanced Nem guys where all the interesting options and features are included. This is just a thought.

As i said before, i think this is vitally important.

I think it's very, very important we give people CHOICE - if they wish to have more advanced features, this option should be within the same client; not involve them having to download another client in order to get additional functionality because they're an advanced user. It's this exact thing that makes Crypto's more complicated thna they need to be. Sure, on the surface this is no big deal, but couple this with other hoops people need to jump through, the entire process gets complicated very, very quickly.

A simple option in a menu to enable or disable "Advanced user options" is all that's necessary.


This sort of reminds me of my stance between Firefox and Chrome - i find Chrome a more dumbed down experience and therefore prefer the additional options Firefox offers me (I especially dislike the fact Chrome doesn't even give you the option of choosing an install path - very patronizing, very frustrating)

In order to not piss off either party (Advanced users, casual users) we need to give them CHOICE.



Choice is good, but we should also try as hard as possible to design a good interface so that users don't have to choose.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
As far as wallet security goes, I have always thought that the wallet.dat file poses a huge unnecessary security risk (since malware or a hacker can easily scan the computer for wallet.dat). I think we should copy the approach that exocoin is taking when it comes to wallet security:

Quote
secure wallets: Using a random file (created by the gui/cmd tool) or a file of your choice (image, sound file, system file etc). Only you should know what file is needed for your authentication. Then you could store your 10,000 photos from your last holiday on an usb stick. Only you will know what special picture will unlock your account!

A secret file to unlock your account. Or at the very least, allow the user to create a custom name and filesystem location for the wallet.dat file.

This is a pretty cool idea.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Is Etherium really as revolutionary as this guy makes it out to be ? Can some of the more knowledgeable posters please enlighten me on how they are so much better than both NXT & NEM potentially ( since Etherium is yet to be released)


I think if Ethereum is really what it promises, it is that big of a deal.  

The way I see it is like this.  In the short term, it doesn't matter.  In the short term from a functionality perspective, they will all have the same functions.  The lead developer of Ethereum mentioned this in an interview recently.  Both will have multi-sig functions and asset exchanges and other key aspects.  Things that bitcoin simply can't do because its code is not designed for it.  So in this aspect, NXT has somewhat of a 1st mover bump.  

But.... Ethereum is designed basically to do anything and everything in the future, most of which hasn't been designed yet, or for that matter even thought of yet.  So, it is very possible that in 5 years, NXT will find itself in the "Bitcoin" situation of not being able to meet the needs of a new market.  A platform that was revolutionary and great at the time, but eventually limited for what it needs to do.  And then again.... maybe it won't.  Maybe it will prove very versatile and adaptable.  But I see a very long "blue-ray vs HD DVD" battle coming up between "Ethereum vs Ripple vs NXT" with honorable mention of NEM.  (and then trailing after that counterparty and bitshares)

Ethereum and NEM are late to the game, but both have advantages that if leveraged can really be a big factor.  Ripple and NXT are here now, both with advantages and disadvantages that makes them very polarized and hated/loved in the community.  It all depends on how bad their decisions are and how much NEM can monopolize their failings.  On top of that, NXT has already quasi-set a framework for NEM to follow.   This is not a bitcoin vs litecoin type of battle.  It is going to be much closer than that.  

One things for sure, NEM has the chance to be the people's 2.0 platform, but it will not be easy and we will really need to work as a community to make it happen.  

PS.  You asked for "knowledgeable" and well...... that probably isn't me, I am a newbie, but I thought I would give it a go. hahaha

Ethereum : impractical idea - no practical use cases
Ripple: outdated model - limited appeal
Mastercoin+ Counterparty: unsuitable foundation - limited functionality
Invictus Bitshare : fragmented products, lack a correct vision
Exo: dubious fundamental
Bitcoin: still great but the old King with new problems popping up everyday
NXT: XXXXXX
NEM: the 2015 King - best developers- best innovation - best vision - best community

Disclaimer: comments are with guaranteed objectivity as long as you understand there is no objectivity in forum writing.

I think this is a great summary of the state of crypto for 2015!
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