Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 231. (Read 661498 times)

I know I am a little late to reply here, but I want to go back and clear what I was saying about NEM needing a mobile platform.  I really do believe mobile will be the future of computers and finance.  I think it will be the "primary" device of the normal person, but not the only one.  For sure desktops and notebooks and servers and supercomputers will of course still exist. 

After reading more about M-Pesa for a different post, I think that this helps to prove the point.  Here is the chart of M-Pesa verses bitcoin.  Both are digital platforms for transferring money. 



This chart clearly shows what it means to be adapted.  M-Pesa is winning, bitcoin simply isn't.  At this rate, who knows how long before bitcoin "goes to the moon".

Bitcoin just isn't cutting it, and I am guessing won't ever get the job done.  It is too slow and too difficult to use.  M-Pesa is as simple as sending a text.  Banking on the go.  I would really love to see NEM be as easy as M-Pesa at transferring money.  That is part of the reason why I am willing to give part of my stake as a bounty for a mobile app developer.  I believe in it that much. 

I think the most important thing in NEM's long term future is getting businesses to accept it and people to spend it.  If the community agrees that is important, it seems like some things need to be met first.  Excellent and easy to use clients, an exchange of fiat to NEM, and trust in NEM. 

I am not sure but it seems like M-Pesa was originally or still is backed by mobile prepaid airtime minutes.  So the minutes acted as a gold standard for the M-Pesa units.  People knew that at anytime they could just use the M-Pesa on their phones to buy airtime if they weren't going to spend it elsewhere.  Those rates were locked in.  Right now bitcoin is backed by USD or RMB or EUR, but it doesn't have to be limited to that.  And unfortunately (or fortunately) bitcoin isn't locked in into anything and that makes investors weary. This is why having an exchange is soooooo important at the start.  (something like a Bitpay/Coinbase combo)  Anyway, I think I am rambling now.  Just some thoughts to think on. 

All the submission that have been made, were taken into account. For now we're eliminated those that we think weren't good enough. We've also elimintage some that infringed copyrights.
Imho everyone should be allowed to submit as many logos as they want. I personaly don't care if someone submits 20 logos if they're all awesome. In the end we want to have a nice professional representative logo and I couldn't care less if it comes from someone that tried 100 times or from someone that only submited one.

The question is do we really need it.

hi guys.

i have an account with 99designs, along with a couple of other services like that.

But there have been many preliminary submissions from interested parties in here, that should not be dismissed.
There was a logo contest announced and stakes have been reserved for the winners, has this changed?

Apart from that, in these forums there are many talented members.

EDIT-
Also, i dont want to be much of a pain, but it should not need pointing out that there should be one submission per member in the contest.
There are already many people with lots of submissions, they should have a chance to choose themselves one
to submit in a competition for the rest to choose from.

Multiple members are making multiple versions, we should not allow one to enter with more than one submission.

It will slow down eventually. I think it already started. People will be less and less interested in new clones.

No i have 2 stakes but i have read the refunding list thread ... and that´s are only the guys who make it stupid...
I´m only invested before in bitcoins since 2 years but not a trader, i´m a collector  
I say it... we will see it if the coins are distributet to each account possible there are 500 Accounts...we will see.
At this moment i bought another 50000 Coin2 and for 2 days 200000 Nxt.

@ salasz next month i visit prag and than we can talk about it with 2 or 3  Staropramen 

TauMuon: Juzion owns 4 stakes, he said it. So he thinks, others can have even more - 10 stakes - so the number is 3000/10=300

You might think that, but simply thinking something might be true doesn't make it true. You can't just claim something like that without substantial evidence to back up your claim, or it just looks like you're trolling or deliberately trying to sabotage NEM for no obvious reason. You have a stake after all, why would you spread rumours that the distribution is 10x worse than claimed? What's in it for you?

What are the reasons holding you back from using 99design? It'd be nice to have the extra choice, surely?

at the end we will see if the coins are on the account of the user as many stakeholders NEM has really.Anyway, I'm really curious as to how NEM developed and will be different from other coins.

We have narrowed the list down to only a couple. Right now there's a discussion if we should have contest on 99design.com or not.

300 is total bs. If someone wants to mock NEM for not being fair at least use som realistic numbers that don't make you look like a total moron that just talks without doing any research. kthxbey.

the most veteran users have 2 , 3 , 4 or 5 bitcointalk user names....

and now please do not ask why, I think the reasons should any veteran user will also know!

I have 4 Account names and also my most veteran user name and 2 stakes of NEM withot my veteran name...

anyone knows, how the logo committee is doing?

The stakeholder's list has 1,090 Bitcoin talk veteran accounts, how can you speculate that there are no more than 300 Nem stakeholders?

Then you have to consider that many of those veterans also tried to get other people that they know to join Nem, seeing it as a big opportunity, also consider this crypto guy with a large twitter following who mentioned the fund raising in his twitter account as well as those who mentioned it in Reddit and other major social media, and the people who browse the site but don't comment, but joined to get a stake.

Then you also have to consider the I think 200+ open slots, and the 20 page waiting list that's still growing, with the rules being much stricter and Utopianfuture focusing only on people who can significantly contribute to Nem.

300 stake holder just doesn't make sense, unless it's wishful thinking on your part.

Nice Salasz !!!!

I´m also think that coin2 is the much fairest coin of all. i also invest in it but to late i pay 0,000008 but i´m holding on it.I´m also NEM Stakeholder but i never think that NEM is fair, but i think there are good developer that can make the coin great.
But do not say all the time that NEM is fair, if NEM want be a fair coin the distribution must work how coin2 and this from the beginnig but yet it is to late! I´m also think that there are too much coins 400000000 that´s amazing!
Look @ Nxt and the 24h Volume in good days not more than 100000 Dollar ... but the most volume over a day are 30000-50000 dollar that is not good for a coin, the stakeholder of Nxt make the price!

They are making a pretty awesome First Person Shooter with nice graphics.

What is Litecoin doing? =)

I think there are not more of 300 NEM Users... the rest are sockpuppets! don´t make u unserious .... i do not like that everyone means there are thousands of NEM Stakeholers and all the people know it!

Coin2 is a fork of LTC. I can't see anything new in it though so it's more like a clone. It doesn't suprise me that people got their coins for free. I wouldn't want to pay for another clone.