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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 446. (Read 661525 times)

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Just for fun (I'm a tad bored), let's predict launch prices!

I'll start: BTC0.000001 < NEM < BTC0.000005 or 0.01 NXT < NEM < 0.05 NXT


[Assuming prices of BTC/USD = $800 and NXT/BTC = BTC0.0001]
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Hi community!!!!

My English is pathetic, i need google translator to write. Cheesy

If you have much free time, you can make very good videos with MAGIX Video deluxe 2014:


Download(multilanguage): https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4PRHgBaRQoRTk1qemlvTmlMQzg/edit?pli=1

Recommended download folder once, so don't ask password and it is easier

Installation:  install and activate connected to internet

1. install program:  trial_videodeluxe2014premium_dlm.exe

2. go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\MAGIX\Video deluxe 2014 Premium

2. copy and paste:  MagixOFA_u.dll in the folder "online"

3. copy and paste:  Protein.dll  in the folder  "protein"

4. copy and paste:  Videodeluxe.exe

5. enter the serial nº

6. enter your email.

FINISH

I hope to build a video for NEM in Spanish!

extracted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FuoCSpNgu0


Thanks NEM. Have all the money in NXT, don't give me 100% security. Roll Eyes
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In case I'm not the only one who wondered how the logo would look like if the size and position of the lines more closely resembled the actual letters, here it is:
https://i.imgur.com/qHcnSN2.png
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I much prefer the "E" being the same height now, but personally, I don't like how the rim reminds of a casino chip.

Thanks for your honest feedback. I think I got stuck a bit on some of the elements in that design. Smiley

Here are my last two attempts to play a bit with the basic idea:


As mentioned, all proposals are available on this flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/116462858@N08/

I will quit working on these for now in order to leave room for some other ideas from other people.

somehow this gray and white look very sad
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Really cool, but can we get a "flat" version. Like something that would feel at home in iOS. Also, can you make a version without the coin, but just the 8 lines representing NEM? Actually, I was sketching logos last night and came up with the same idea as you, representing NEM with the 8 lines. I think it is the way to go for a logo.

Ok, flattened it quite a bit more and also aligned the characters:



I think the variety for this design is now big enough as a proposal. Smiley



I prefered it when it was more metal looking and black. I recommend going for a real rough industrial metal look keeping with the egalitarian 'communist' image.

Communist ? Really ? It's called NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT and we're going for a communist look ? Smiley
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Kamehameha!!!

Really cool, but can we get a "flat" version. Like something that would feel at home in iOS. Also, can you make a version without the coin, but just the 8 lines representing NEM? Actually, I was sketching logos last night and came up with the same idea as you, representing NEM with the 8 lines. I think it is the way to go for a logo.

Ok, flattened it quite a bit more and also aligned the characters:



I think the variety for this design is now big enough as a proposal. Smiley



I prefered it when it was more metal looking and black. I recommend going for a real rough industrial metal look keeping with the egalitarian 'communist' image.
hero member
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I much prefer the "E" being the same height now, but personally, I don't like how the rim reminds of a casino chip.

Thanks for your honest feedback. I think I got stuck a bit on some of the elements in that design. Smiley

Here are my last two attempts to play a bit with the basic idea:


As mentioned, all proposals are available on this flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/116462858@N08/

I will quit working on these for now in order to leave room for some other ideas from other people.

I really like the white one !
Best one I've seen so far (and still remember Smiley )
I would put the writing "new economy movement" below the "NEM" but other than that it's awesome.
Also if we where to decide to move away from a coinish design, i can totally see that work without the white circle.
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Internet of Value
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I would preffer a coin with an image inside like this:

sr. member
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I much prefer the "E" being the same height now, but personally, I don't like how the rim reminds of a casino chip.

Thanks for your honest feedback. I think I got stuck a bit on some of the elements in that design. Smiley

Here are my last two attempts to play a bit with the basic idea:


As mentioned, all proposals are available on this flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/116462858@N08/

I will quit working on these for now in order to leave room for some other ideas from other people.

I like this new modern look more than the old ones. Will put them in my flickz.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/115246188@N06/
newbie
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I much prefer the "E" being the same height now, but personally, I don't like how the rim reminds of a casino chip.

Thanks for your honest feedback. I think I got stuck a bit on some of the elements in that design. Smiley

Here are my last two attempts to play a bit with the basic idea:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5529/12326043923_e0cfdcd78e_n.jpghttp://farm3.staticflickr.com/2872/12326457704_4d3ff2e2e8_n.jpg

As mentioned, all proposals are available on this flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/116462858@N08/

I will quit working on these for now in order to leave room for some other ideas from other people.
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IMO we should abandon any round coinlike logos.. Anyone else think the same?

I think a coin image is essential, otherwise it may not be obvious to newcomers that the largest use of NEM is as a currency.

I'm in agreement with this. If the goal of the crypto is to gain mass traction with the population as an actual currency or economic tool, it needs to be relatable to those with no cryptocurrency knowledge. I think a lot of the branding/marketing going on here is not taking this into consideration. If it is just another alt, than continue on with the current themes.
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IMO we should abandon any round coinlike logos.. Anyone else think the same?

I think a coin image is essential, otherwise it may not be obvious to newcomers that the largest use of NEM is as a currency.
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IMO we should abandon any round coinlike logos.. Anyone else think the same?
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100

Really cool, but can we get a "flat" version. Like something that would feel at home in iOS. Also, can you make a version without the coin, but just the 8 lines representing NEM? Actually, I was sketching logos last night and came up with the same idea as you, representing NEM with the 8 lines. I think it is the way to go for a logo.

Ok, flattened it quite a bit more and also aligned the characters:



I think the variety for this design is now big enough as a proposal. Smiley



I much prefer the "E" being the same height now, but personally, I don't like how the rim reminds of a casino chip.
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I'm a fan of the hybrid forging ideas being thrown out. While POS may lead to price stability, wouldn't it also be a deterrent to actually spending/using NEM as a currency?
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Really cool, but can we get a "flat" version. Like something that would feel at home in iOS. Also, can you make a version without the coin, but just the 8 lines representing NEM? Actually, I was sketching logos last night and came up with the same idea as you, representing NEM with the 8 lines. I think it is the way to go for a logo.

Ok, flattened it quite a bit more and also aligned the characters:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3790/12325050555_d165590db1_n.jpg

I think the variety for this design is now big enough as a proposal. Smiley

newbie
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How's the progress on the NEM code?

Anything written yet, or are we still just marketing?
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I had to analyse this a little but looks like a very nice system indeed !

Yes and if hi puts it into graphical diagram
using arrows and blocks it will be understandable by anyone Wink

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Imho it'd be better to keep the systems as is regarding distribution of coins i.e. finite number and fees. An infinite number of coins will create inflation like crazy and people probably won't buy into it in the first place.
Obviously we then need the fees to reward people for forging.

POS/PON in general i think are great ideas. I think it'll be important to find the right balance between POS and PON. E.g. how long will it take me to forge a block with little or no NEM but a node that is running 24/7 ?
I think this could also eliminate the complaints from people that the rich get ritcher with the current Nxt - POS implementation.

Just to through out numbers to start a discussion - I think 40 % POS / 60 % PON could be fair. I think this would reflect that you're helping NEM more by running a node than hoarding your coins.

Thoughts ?

I agree with you therefore i have written that the concept should be partially adapted
as the number of coins in NEM is finite. Part of the forging fee should go to nodes that are securing the netowrk using PON.
The best POS / PON ratio yet shuld be found.

+1 to your advice 40 % POS / 60 % PON or something in that range to avoid hoarding.

+1 for 40/60


Could there be a small "lucky" part where a part of the transaction fee goes into a pot and once in a while the pot is given to some random wallet?

I suggested something like this for NXT but it was ignored.  It kind of like a bonus lottery...


I would like to implement such that block forgers cannot include their own transactions for free; where if they want to send transactions in a block they forge, then they perform the following:

1) determine the lowest fee paid for a transaction in the previous block generated.  Trasactions belonging the block forger that he wants to include in the block must have at lease this fee assigned, or higher if selected.

2) use a defined algorithm (TBD) to select an account out of the previous 10 blocks that paid fees for transactions.  multiple transactions with 1 account doesnt give you multiple chances, so if you had just 1 transaction you have equal chance of being selected as someone with 1000

3) the block forger takes the number of transaction of his own that he wants to include in the block and then multiplies by the figure obtained in #1 (or a higher fee than that if he desires, but at least that amount), and includes a transaction sending that amount of NXT to the account selected in #2.  all his own transactions in this block must set the fee to value obtained in #1 (or higher if desired), as those will be returned to him if he does indeed forge that block.  So as long as the math works out between these steps, the network will validate the block he forges.

4) if your own account is selected to send the fees to then the algorithm chooses a different account.  This is to reduce the chance that exchanges with their high volume get their own free fees

This structure effictively removes fee forging and makes a cool/fun little bonus lottery that encourages people to use transactions since then they become eligible for the lottery.

I support also this mechanism, so +1 for this too!
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