[NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange - page 3.

Daedelus

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Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

How'd you figure that? Going out of their way to hide would be to obfuscate the code.

xtester

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It's for obvious reasons that NEM source will be kept secret for some time. If POI will be as good as I think, and the next step on the evolutionary scale of crypto, then it will be very big. There are scenarios in which NEM could storm its way into the top as the most trustworthy, innovative and promising altcoin project because of the because of the very promising combination of characteristics it exemplifies.

qora dan

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this can only be very a very good thing

Eadeqa

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Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:43:32 AM

Quote from: Eadeqa on June 11, 2014, 01:35:20 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

If Nem released the source code immediately, they would be cloned a few dozen times within a week. Maybe someone will launch it even before Nem is officially launched if the source code is released during alpha/beta.

it's bad idea to release the code before Nem is at least established as unique new crypto

But the one with the strongest community wins out. NEM already has a strong community. Keeping the source open will build trust and will also allow for others to contribute.

I believe the upsides are much more than any downsides.

Funny Nxt released the source code in January and the prices went down for 2 months after that.. Look at Windows OS. 90%+ market share but it's closed source platform. Most people don't care about open source.

Developers and exchanges don't need source code. They need API, which obviously will be available from alpha version.

I am all for open source, but they need to give themselves some breathing room before getting drowned by clones.

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Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:44:09 AM

Bitshares has a fully open source project. They are not scared.

I don't want NEM to follow the same dodgy way as NXT.

"Dodgy way"? LOL looks like we have a jealous individual here!

Fernandez

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Quote from: Vega on June 11, 2014, 01:34:54 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

They won't. No pure PoS (PoI, whatever) ever did or will be fully open source immediately. It's not possible to do it as with PoW, where the hashrate matters. New PoS coint need, absolutely need some lead time before they are cloned. Without it they would drown in clones.

Bitshares has a fully open source project. They are not scared.

I don't want NEM to follow the same dodgy way as NXT.

Fernandez

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Quote from: Eadeqa on June 11, 2014, 01:35:20 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

If Nem released the source code immediately, they would be cloned a few dozen times within a week. Maybe someone will launch it even before Nem is officially launched if the source code is released during alpha/beta.

it's bad idea to release the code before Nem is at least established as unique new crypto

But the one with the strongest community wins out. NEM already has a strong community. Keeping the source open will build trust and will also allow for others to contribute.

I believe the upsides are much more than any downsides.

Eadeqa

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Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

If Nem released the source code immediately, they would be cloned a few dozen times within a week. Maybe someone will launch it even before Nem is officially launched if the source code is released during alpha/beta.

it's bad idea to release the code before Nem is at least established as unique new crypto

Vega

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Quote from: Fernandez on June 11, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

They won't. No pure PoS (PoI, whatever) ever did or will be fully open source immediately. It's not possible to do it as with PoW, where the hashrate matters. New PoS coint need, absolutely need some lead time before they are cloned. Without it they would drown in clones.

Fernandez

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Quote from: Daedelus on June 10, 2014, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: devphp on June 10, 2014, 02:21:18 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 AM

NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

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Quote from: qora dan on June 10, 2014, 05:33:09 PM

what does NEM stand for

New Economy Movement

qora dan

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what does NEM stand for

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Quote from: Mrrr on June 10, 2014, 12:27:45 PM

Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on June 10, 2014, 12:13:24 PM

guys is there any site where i can see how much 1 NEM stake is worth in NXT without having to access the AE? It's a pain in the a$$ to enter it every time just to check the price. any chart, site or anything? Huh

This is what you are looking for:

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

My notebook slows down whenever I leave this site open in the background.

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Quote from: mavromixalakis on June 10, 2014, 03:44:49 PM

Is there a deadline a have to transfer my stake token to the issuer from NXT AE?

Since I am quite newbie...How do I do that exactly?

I guess not. Just do it before Utopian stops working for NEM Wink

He will post instructions once it is done (just look at the OP of this thread)

mavromixalakis

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Is there a deadline a have to transfer my stake token to the issuer from NXT AE?

Since I am quite newbie...How do I do that exactly?

bumface

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i am on the nem stakeholder list, what is an nxt account??

Eadeqa

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Quote from: nzminer on June 10, 2014, 05:08:40 AM

Quote from: abstraktalias on June 10, 2014, 05:03:03 AM

Seems like there's still roughly 600 Nemstakes available to be claimed, with the first 400 going to 3 kinds of people - NEM enthusiasts, NEM whales and NEM early dumpers.

I'm guessing not everyone follows this thread or the development of NEM on a daily basis, there's still probably a large amount of people who are on the stakeholders list and don't know about the NXT AE or have yet to claim them, but that's pure speculation on my part.

Are there any statistics available on the amount claimed vs. the amount sold on the NXT AE? I would like to know how many people claimed a NEMstake just to hold. The higher the number the better in my opinion.

The early dumpers are a good thing as it gets rid of people who aren't that interested in the development of NEM and just want to cash out, but several accounts holding more than 2 NEMstakes doesn't bode well for the NEM either.

The distribution model is one of the better things NEM has going for it. I'm wondering if the NXT AE has ruined that to a certain extent. If it turns out that only a dozen or so guys are holding 10 plus stakes than this discourages new members joining this community. That's not what anyone wants to see as far as the long term success of this coin is concerned.

Thoughts from anyone more informed than me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I think the NXT exchange was a good idea for latecomers, but i didnt like how the prices were pumped up so high, i also have read that some people were able to claim NEM stakes for only 40 NXT before being listed on the AE.
It was my fault for buying into the FUD about NEM and was advised by many that i paid too much for it at 15K, so i sold it thinking it was going to drop in value.
Now im going to have trouble buying one, i should have kept it.

I remember telling you in Nxtforum that since you already bought a stake, whatever the price, you should forget about it and wait for the launch before deciding what you want to do.

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Quote from: Mrrr on June 10, 2014, 12:27:45 PM

Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on June 10, 2014, 12:13:24 PM

guys is there any site where i can see how much 1 NEM stake is worth in NXT without having to access the AE? It's a pain in the a$$ to enter it every time just to check the price. any chart, site or anything? Huh

This is what you are looking for:

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

awesome! thx!

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Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on June 10, 2014, 12:13:24 PM

guys is there any site where i can see how much 1 NEM stake is worth in NXT without having to access the AE? It's a pain in the a$$ to enter it every time just to check the price. any chart, site or anything? Huh

This is what you are looking for:

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

Jeff Jefferson

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guys is there any site where i can see how much 1 NEM stake is worth in NXT without having to access the AE? It's a pain in the a$$ to enter it every time just to check the price. any chart, site or anything? Huh

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