Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 7. (Read 2984072 times)

Community control maybe....but not sure.
There are enough resources($) for the forum. Even if you only run it as "read only".

But if you look at the tweets from "Hatchet" at the moment, it seems that someone here is looking for or preparing an exit door. Another one who leaves behind a shambles.
I'm curious how the soap opera will continue.

Yes, the last message should be visible, if the posts will be deleted.

Strange ....   is there any other reason for the closing than the "Gallup about the usage" ?

" https://twitter.com/0x6861746366574/status/1459651132687413248 "

(11:35 nachm. · 13. Nov. 2021·Twitter for iPhone)

This is one of the problems that they have not even found it necessary to publish this as the last message in the forum.

ok... so, the issue is this one:
https://forum.nem.io/  :  "This site is in read only mode. Please continue to browse, but replying, likes, and other actions are disabled for now."

I guess that the closing does not mean that the posts / docs will disappear.

By the way, there was a Twitter vote. These are known to be particularly meaningful.


" Hatchet 𓊝
@0x6861746366574
How often did you use the NEM Forum?
Not at all                               60.6%
I would just browse               23.3%
Occasionally posted             11%
Posted often                         5.1%
335 votes

Final results
3:42 AM · Oct 27, 2021
Read the full conversation on Twitter "


It might have made more sense to publish the NEM Forum server statistics for a year or two.
There you would have had an independent statement. Perhaps this would not have fitted into the plan to close the forum.
I feel like core devs are going from one extreme to the other right now. And it annoys me how new members are played off against old ones. Pure polemic.
Yes, the Wayback machine might be a possibility, but I don't know enough about that either.

Currently the world economy is in such phase that the intelligent and / or careful people are digging holes.
But what for the holes are digged?  
Either they are for enlargening them to bunkers for the coming depression or (hyper) inflation,
or they are for enabling the quicker start (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starting_blocks) when trying to pick up the best fruits,
when the economical situations are coming clearer.  


What project is making a way better progress?  And is that project a social media "project" or a tech project?

Do you think that the archiving should be done to some public place, e.g. https://archive.org/
or to some NEM / Symbol storage?

I don't know if it is possible to save these bitcointalk.org's threads but if the amount of pages is not much, then someone could pick each page one by one and save them to PDF format. After that the PDF documents can be easily saved to anywhere as the total size would not be gigabytes.

I am concerned about the progress of NEM and Symbol. It was clear to me that not much more could be expected from XEM after the snapshot, which is why I sold all my XEM at a good price directly after the snapshot, even though these were still mainly XEM from the ICO. The fact that the disaster continues for XYM is really indicative of the project. And I have also started to slowly reduce my XYM stake. Very sad.

Yes, you are right, sorry. My statement here was not 100% correct.
Only a few posts with technical content should be archived. But there doesn't seem to be anyone in the community who wants to do this.
According to the announcement, it should have been closed long ago.
Even the person responsible for the documentation is throwing in the towel again. And there is certainly more than enough work to be done here. For whatever reason.
There are enough financial resources to keep this forum going.
So a lot of information is lost. In a good and bad way. Actually an absurdity.
All contributions, no matter what kind, are good contemporary witnesses of the development of NEM / Symbol.
They are easy to search through and you can find the relevant information relatively quickly.
I don't remember anyone asking the community either. It's a decision that was made unilaterally by the core devs.


Well, but NEM / Symbol now has a lot of colourful avatars and pictures. If that's nothing!

Who and where is spoken about archiving a forum?

Why archive a forum when you can keep it going ?
Wouldn't networking the different channels be a better alternative ? But then it might not be so easy to control ?    ....?



thx

" https://twitter.com/0x6861746366574/status/1493130364520316928 "

"When designing protocols and in particular the tokenomics of a protocol, we always seek to pay the minimum appropriate amount for economic security - otherwise we get all the issues you see with NEM today: price suppression, weak community, apathy."


This is wrong.
These are characteristics that occur when development is delayed for many years. Quite simply.
It isn´t the fault of the NIS-SN operators or tocenomics, the majority have always represented the community.
Everyone can see in the blockchain who is selling something and when.

Quasicrystal of dates 30.11.2013/15.12.2017 and 24.01.2022 works perfekt as significant dip.

However BTC and ETH should not be so profitable in that upmove. Maybe XYM will be much more

First significant top should occur in this last journey in March, final in May.

We should be thankful for FED that they moved crash near that time (June 2022). November 2021 was planned, but plans can change a little bit

The watch of Rabbit from the Economist cover shows 5 November (2021) but can be read as 11 May 2022 (or 11 March) as a top of all tops

And Etherium leads the charge however smaller altcoins should follow with greater show (precentage).

yep, .... a small step in the right direction, nevertheless important

" https://twitter.com/Jaguar0625/status/1486780406812790788?cxt=HHwWiMCy8eK5jaIpAAAA "

i bet that BTC makes some significant dip near 33k

i decide to buy significant stack of XYM (15/16 cents)

beside rebuying of MATIC of course (1.4$)

If i am wrong i will be doomed for trying to be smarter than market

Maybe everyone should calm down and let the arguments speak for themselves.
This can be seen neither on the side of the core devs nor on the opposite side.
There is not only black or white.

" https://twitter.com/Jaguar0625/status/1485257317675417602 "

" I am not working for the entitled SN holder."

This is true and none of the so-called SN operators would expect this.
On the other hand, there are no SN operators under symbol. That's why I don't understand this statement. There are only node operators. And everyone can buy as much XYM as they want.
This means that it can operate a voting node, but it has no advantage over other nodes. Instead, it bears a greater risk than a peer or Api node operator.
That's why posts about SN contributors under Symbol actually make no sense at all.
Some operate their own node and others operate a node on a central platform (allnodes).
(What do I think about this? See one post above.)
That is why everyone who runs a node via the operator allnodes should hold back with his opinion.
A large part of the SN operators under NIS1, have jumped ship long ago.
The SN operators + NIS1 node operators who have continued to support NIS1 have in some cases taken a great risk and ensured that, for example, Japanese projects such as Nemgraph etc., had a reasonable transition period available. Now these SN operators are being called the last dirt.
If you look at it closely, the SN operators were the contributors of the years since 2014. No one is born as an operator of a SN. Everybody starts small. And everyone has contributed something to NEM in their own way.
Now the question is actually who is responsible for the mistakes of the past years. Unfortunately, the core devs are evading responsibility here. After all, they were significantly involved in every wrong decision.

Isn't that so?

" https://twitter.com/NCOSIGIMCITYNRE/status/1484141677317136392?cxt=HHwWkIC5jcC_3ZgpAAAA "

It's a little unclear to me what's new about it. It looks similar under NIS1.
A much bigger problem of centralisation is that a large part of the symbol nodes run on the operator allnodes. I have nothing against the operator Allnodes, they do a good job and certainly have their justification in the ecosystem. Nevertheless, it is wrong if >1/3 of the nodes run on the operator allnodes and can thus be influenced by a centralised operator at any time.
We have seen what this can mean with the Hardfork. Fortunately, the operator Allnodes made the right decision and reset the upgrade.
Thus, the individual tenants of the nodes on the operator allnodes had the choice and could decide freely.
Will this still be the case in the future?

What really annoys me here is that there was no objection from the core devs. Instead, this first and wrong decision by the operator Allnodes was supported by the core devs during the hardfork.
That's why I find this Twitter post rather hypocritical.


In the future, there should be no further promotion or support for node operators who operate their nodes in this way. This affects a large part of the Japanese community, among others.
This will perhaps shift the balance a bit again (decentralised).

thx

https://www.tradingview.com/x/yMexAy3s/

still no signal of reversal in this downtrend, the same with BTC and ETH

https://www.tradingview.com/x/SKWvJmhO/

https://www.tradingview.com/x/T2JzSZer/

Boring times after bubble.

" https://twitter.com/0x6861746366574/status/1482208013444255745?cxt=HHwWgsCoybmV7pEpAAAA "

If you use this logo, you should at least put the NEM logo on the left side and the symbol logo on the right side. Clockwise.

I'm very surprised that anyone who starts a promotion for NEM / Symbol immediately expects a refund:

" Symbol Blog@blog_symbol "

" Just a reminder, please support those community members that are contributing to the ecosystem by delegating to their nodes, it is a show of moral support as well as financial. Kickback nodes obviously put a bit more in your pocket but generally do nothing for #Symbol as a whole "


I'm not sure how you can give a +100 here as a core dev ?  

Since our nodes are not needed, maybe we should all switch off.  Very sad ....
 
THX