Topic: NEM's leader utopianfuture RETIRED after mistake posting w. sockpuppet acc[SCAM] - page 4. (Read 11077 times)

Maybe for you. Maybe you live in a world where decaying ethics reign supreme over truth and honesty. I don't.

OF COURSE UF SCAMMED PEOPLE!!!!! He LIED about his own activities, about the nature of the distribution, about his intentions... FOR MONTHS!!!!!

STOP PRETENDING THIS IS DECENT, ORDINARY HUMAN BEHAVIOR!

IT IS NOT!!

You just want to drag the rest of civilization down into the low moral crevasse that you inhabit. Cut it out.

I am expressively addressing your claim that he somehow scammed people, when did not.  Nobody lost their money, NEM or tokens.  All that occurred was popularity hoaxing, which is a common marketing technique employed by new coins and even real world products & companies.  Is it ethical?  No.  Is it everyday reality much like we breathe oxygen?  Yes.

You didn't follow NEM, but what happend is, that he was promissed multiple stakes anyway, but he claimed even more in the beginning. That isn't even the problem, he didn't told anyone, that is.

Why do you keep defending UF? He admitted he messed up, why do you persist in trying to tell us otherwise? What good does it do to skew reality any further at this point?

All coins have a good portion of unethical behaviour, that is because the "human" is not a selfless creature. Selfintrest lies in our genes. As long as persons will be in charge and given too much power, corruption and wrongdoing will happen.

Don't blame IPO coins per-se. Not fair!

Come on
There is no scandal
Why a dev get only one stake like everyone
Utopian can have more stakes it is not a scandal it's normal he's working a lot for NEM

Hey Utopian if you want to dump some cheap steak contact me  

This is why IPO coins are all scams.

Those accounts were used to register stakes but they were later taken off the list.  UtopianFuture was only padding up interest, at the very beginning, a common marketing technique on Bitcointalk but not completely ethical.  How did you know Satoshi didn't create a dozen fake aliases to promote Bitcoin back in 2009?  

Utopian padding up fake interest in the beginning doesn't change the fact we have outstanding developers such as Jagaur.


I feel that's not the real issue here.  The real issue is this Call from Above person who irrationally wants to discredit NEM due to some vendetta towards UtopianFuture.  Maybe CFA is a 'tard or a sockpuppet from the Sim Coin community, I don't particularly care but what I do care about are his irritable posts and the fact he has created five spam threads about NEM so far.  

Why is it only one person who is running a crusade against NEM?

The comment about being excited about the alpha was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I don't blame people for being upset. I, myself, am disappointed.

I didn't notice what utopianfuture did because I was too busy coding. I trusted him and others to do the taint analysis. Maybe I misplaced my trust.

I looks like the old NEM thread was locked before I could post my response. In any event, these are my thoughts:

I'm saddened and disappointed by what has happened today. There is no excuse for what utopianfuture did. It's unprofessional to bash another coin anonymously using sockpuppet accounts. It's worse that those same sockpuppet accounts were used to sign up for NEM stakes because that goes directly against NEM's fair distribution principle.

Having said all that, I would like to thank utopianfuture for what he has done for NEM up until now. Without utopianfuture, NEM wouldn't exist. He conceived of the idea and recruited a lot of the core dev team, including myself. He has also done a number of things behind the scenes, including paying some out-of-pocket costs (in fiat).

I've heard from a plurality of the core dev team and they mostly share this sentiment. I'm sure I will hear from the rest of the team at some point over the weekend. But, aside from a lot of extra gossip, this transgression shouldn't impact the development of NEM. utopianfuture is not a developer and has not written a single line of code.

I'm hopeful that NEM will emerge from this situation even stronger. NEM was always built around decentralization and fairness and having a single "leader" is really diametrically opposed to that. NEM needs to have a community, not a leader.

As for myself, can you trust me? That's up to you to decide, but I will share a few things:

1. I've never heard of simcoin.
2. I'm to busy coding to have sockpuppet account.
3. I don't have a multiple personality disorder.

Let's try to move forward instead of living in the past. The open alpha is less than two weeks away!

P.S. The core dev team will be reaching out to the community to find someone to lead the marketing and biz-dev of NEM going forward. Understandably, we want to spend most of our time coding until NEM is ready.

P.P.S. I will be on the #ournem IRC channel for the next half hour if anyone has questions for me.

old NEM thread closed, new non-selfmoderated thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nem-new-economy-movement-no-envy-movement-updatesdiscussion-thread-426303

that,s the true man,thats's the true.

yes! lets all endorse unfairness and hoax tactics!

And NEM can get out of this unpleasant situation stronger than before. But  only if it makes the right moves/choices how to handle this. This is move in the right direction I believe

Politician speak, no real remorse.

From the leader

Its a second gen coin with a new code. There are only a few actual new codes in existence that don't rely on other sources. So of course you are wrong unless you want to say something else stupid.

Qora is the same as NXT, you can at least put it in the same category. If it beats NXT or not is open of course. But it can hold its own against NXT.


Calling people a troll even even if they are saying the truth is pretty old. Its like the guys calling everything a scam.

Jesus, Qora is not a competitor to NXT and it never will be.
BCNXT isnot Qora.

It is just a normal coin with huge problems.

And gorilla is just a fucking troll