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April 09, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
Could also be a possibility.

Also I find it unlikely that NEO will be sold, yeah maybe some hardware. But the brand itself now has a negative reputation, no one will want to buy something that can be so easily recreated. It's done and dusted. Game over.

I'd love that to be proved wrong but you surely are right. If they had actually built a reputation and customer base before this fiasco they would have had a chance of gaining investor/buyer interest. Unfortunately I also think Danny would have tried desperately to get inward investment in the weeks before the closure. He clearly failed to strike up enough/any interest in N+B.
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April 09, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
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Ask any day trader sucker how long they will hold a loosing position for - they will tell you until they are bankrupt and their account is empty. It's partly denial and partly false hope. Stress makes you make very very poor decisions at times like these.

FTFY.  BTW, sometimes (as is the case with your Active Mining silliness), "investors" have no choice but to hold -- their shares having been taken away from them Smiley

Oh, and...  Thorazine. Ask for it by name Angry

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April 09, 2014, 05:22:55 PM
Everywhere you go on this forum it's all about YOU.

You don't need to make good points or relevant points just get the satisfaction of exposure. You are an attention whore and a desperate little sad man who needs constant affirmation from others. You are an empty vessel Marcel. Mr Popescu, have a look in the Romanian Yellow pages under 'p' for a psychiatrist. You desperately need one, and who knows, you might one day bring some semblance of reality and acceptance of self into your tragic little existence.

Despite what you desperately think and yearn for, most people on this forum loath you! Now isn't that ironic. Maybe you are trying too hard?

 Tongue

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April 09, 2014, 05:20:56 PM
Could also be a possibility.

Also I find it unlikely that NEO will be sold, yeah maybe some hardware. But the brand itself now has a negative reputation, no one will want to buy something that can be so easily recreated. It's done and dusted. Game over.
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April 09, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Unless Danny is monumentally stupid, I doubt that you'll ever get such evidence.
He will never issue a notarized statement saying "I stole your money."
He will never authorise an interview outing him as a scammer.
He won't even send you a selfie signed "So long, sucker!"

Just not the way life works Undecided

What a pointless post. Are you just an attention whore? All you post in here is useless crap. Use your brain fool this was no scam.

MPEx - now THERE is a scam. People need to get their money out of that before it is closed down by the FBI. I see that happening soon.

Unlike your investings, about which nothing could be done, your rage is treatable.



Stop sperging or else Thorazine. Angry
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April 09, 2014, 05:16:09 PM
I'm reluctant to call Neo a scam but I think when the shit hit the fan scammy behavior followed.

Interesting thought, I'm more inclined to think he would have been planning the closure of the company over the last 2-3 weeks and making sure the books were in order (as he has claimed they are).

Having said that, he disappeared in the night so either the stress got to him and he couldn't face his employees at crunch-time or the money ran out before he thought it would. Maybe he was holding out for a rebound in the price of BTC.

Ask any day trader how long they will hold a loosing position for - they will tell you until they are bankrupt and their account is empty. It's partly denial and partly false hope. Stress makes you make very very poor decisions at times like these.
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April 09, 2014, 05:08:38 PM
I'm reluctant to call Neo a scam but I think when the shit hit the fan scammy behavior followed.
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April 09, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
It looks like there here is NOTHING criminal here.
How did Danny spend 12K btc in a couple of months and not have a plan for funding the operation beyond 1 month?

We know what he spent it on. It was spent legitimately in the business, it's all gone on expenses. A scam that does not make.

They fell on their prediction for BTC which I believe they thought would be on the way to 10k by now.

Do you actually think Danny Brewster could get away with this if it was a scam? Are you from another planet?

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April 09, 2014, 05:08:04 PM
Danny spend 12K btc in a couple of months

I'll allow yourself to question yourself then, according to your modus operandi
what?  how can you say that?  Have you seen the financial reports?

I suppose you have evidence of that criminal activity, other than posts of reposts of reposts of reposts


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April 09, 2014, 05:04:11 PM
Unless Danny is monumentally stupid, I doubt that you'll ever get such evidence.
He will never issue a notarized statement saying "I stole your money."
He will never authorise an interview outing him as a scammer.
He won't even send you a selfie signed "So long, sucker!"

Just not the way life works Undecided

What a pointless post. Are you just an attention whore? All you post in here is useless crap. Use your brain fool this was no scam.

MPEx - now THERE is a scam. People need to get their money out of that before it is closed down by the FBI. I see that happening soon.
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April 09, 2014, 05:03:27 PM
It looks like there here is NOTHING criminal here.
what?  how can you say that?  Have you seen the financial reports?  How did Danny spend 12K btc in a couple of months and not have a plan for funding the operation beyond 1 month?
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April 09, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Evidence is quite a subjective thing what constitutes as evidence to one person may not to another person. Even if Danny himself told you he was never coming back, how can you be sure it's actually Danny and not his twin or a look a like? How can you be sure that your not suffering from illusions.

Given everything that has happened over the past couple of weeks I'd say things are not looking good. When a company goes bust you lose your investment and so do the share holders. This much we know.
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April 09, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
You can't say he is a scamer AND he didn't take you money - that simply does not make sense.
Thank you kind stranger. People jump in conclusion without much hesitation and without using any instrument of logic.

N+B was a high risk IPO in a new start-up. That's life, that's Capitalism and that is investing. You can't win them all.
+1. I am completely and utterly convinced that it is not people who either have invested in this start-up or that have operated any kind of actual registered business that are doing the shouting.

In the real world, if you start something new, in unexplored territory and fail, you failed.
In bitcoinland, if you actually go fully and legally public and fail, they call you a scam/

makes sense i guess..
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April 09, 2014, 04:50:11 PM
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Maybe some evidence? Do you even understand what evidence is?

Evidence is photographs, authorised interviews, notorised statements. Seriously, do you people not cover this in school? Saying 'I went there' is just as trustworthy as me saying 'I have a pet dragon in my garage' - both entirely based on hearsay.

Give us some real evidence.

Unless Danny is monumentally stupid, I doubt that you'll ever get such evidence.
He will never issue a notarized statement saying "I stole your money."
He will never authorise an interview outing him as a scammer.
He won't even send you a selfie signed "So long, sucker!"

Just not the way life works Undecided
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April 09, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
Maybe some evidence? Do you even understand what evidence is?

Evidence is photographs, authorised interviews, notorised statements. Seriously, do you people not cover this in school? Saying 'I went there' is just as trustworthy as me saying 'I have a pet dragon in my garage' - both entirely based on hearsay.

Give us some real evidence.

Yes, many people here understand what evidence is. Your incredulity is not going to convince anyone this is not a fraudulent scheme. You can keep screaming like a girl asking for evidence, but that will not change the fact that this scheme is imploding.
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April 09, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
bongheads like sporks for instance, who thinks that neo harmed cyprus or bitcoin.
Having never been out of moms basement, he does not want anyone to do anything with neo.

Notice the behavior:
to his eyes, garage scams listed in shady exchanges are "legit mining operations"
neo, on the other hand, is a scam, because he said so.
Even if people are trading it for purely speculative reasons, neo is evil for sporks and his buddies.


Man, unfortunately it is over. It was too good to be true. Whether it was a scam from the beginning or not/was pure incompetence, I do not know. 

Even though until today I had some hope, today it vanished.

Today I went to Nicosia in their offices myself. Locked, closed and deserted.

Software company which is co-hosted in same building laid off its employees.

There were only 2-3 persons there. I asked what happened and nobody had the courage or mood to reply. One of them said "its over".

What else do you want?

Maybe some evidence? Do you even understand what evidence is?

Evidence is photographs, authorised interviews, notorised statements. Seriously, do you people not cover this in school? Saying 'I went there' is just as trustworthy as me saying 'I have a pet dragon in my garage' - both entirely based on hearsay.

Give us some real evidence.
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April 09, 2014, 04:27:45 PM
I can confirm that as well.
I had contacted them in order to acquire a Neo Card and they said they are only gathering interest at the time.

I think Danny didn't want to take customers as he knew the future of the bank was uncertain.
You can't say he is a scamer AND he didn't take your money - that simply does not make sense.

The company would have been a success if BTC had increased in value over 2014 as N+B had predicted and Gox+Bitfunder didn't happen. THAT IS A FACT. So they ran out of funds, it doesn't make this a scam. N+B would have opened customer accounts if the future of the bank was secure - but to do so with the price of BTC too low to allow the bank to stay open would be taking money by deceit.

If you see that you realise that Danny was acting honestly and concientiously by not taking onboard customers until he knew BTC would be strong enough to support his bank. He has acted admirably in that regard and PREVENTED another retail-banking crisis in Cyprus.

On the disappearance front - the guy is under GREAT stress, It's a natural response. Not ideal or acceptable but he is human and it is understandable.

N+B was a high risk IPO in a new start-up. People, get over it, it failed, most start-ups fail. It looks like there here is NOTHING criminal here. Possibly a few customers have been misled and they could launch a civil case to have their funds returned. It's a bankrupt bank which failed due to adverse market conditions. That's life, that's Capitalism and that is investing. You can't win them all.
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April 09, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
Everything's just fine, okaynow, survivor69 is jumping to conclusions.
A perfect opportunity for you to grab some cheap shares is how I see it.  



NICOSIA, CYPRUS - APRIL 09: A pedestrian walks past the offices of Neo & Bee on April 9, 2014 in Nicosia, Cyprus. Cyprus based bitcoin vendor Neo & Bee is under investigation by police after allegations they committed fraud against at least two of their customers. The companys CEO Danny Brewster has left the island after allegedly receiving threats. (Photo by Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/Getty Images)
Copyright © 2014 Getty Images. All rights reserved.
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April 09, 2014, 03:24:51 PM
Well if the building is huge, and you dont know who the fck you were talking to
the persons you "met" could very well be anyone then. So.. just like in here..

anyone says anything without any shred of evidence to support his claims.

You walked in a building, and asked some irrelevant stranger, and he knew "its all over".
And that my friend is what another poster meant a few posts back. It is called hearsay.

You came here and told us that you believe what some anonymous stranger who may or may not be
the janitorial committee ceo of the building told you.

Why.am.i.not.surprised.avi
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April 09, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
@okaynow

the offices are locked, closed & deserted but there are people left behind to tell you that "its all over".

Man the building is a huge one, there are other companies there. The people I met most probably were from the software company or the maintenance of the building or something.

For sure your ex-CEO and all Neo staff were not there. Your ex-CEO is hiding in the UK like a pus.y.

What a shame. When I met him in Limassol 1 1/2 months ago I was convinced 100%. What a scammer.

I admit I was a fool.

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