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legendary
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April 13, 2014, 05:53:25 PM

Wow, this article took a whole 5 minutes of investigation to write...
sr. member
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sr. member
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April 13, 2014, 03:02:44 PM
Reply NanoAkron,
You are asking for evidence,what evidence do you want,pictures?? OK tomorrow i will post you pictures of the Bank,the offices and the software company.

Thank you. That would be much more helpful than all the speculation we've been having recently.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
April 13, 2014, 02:06:31 PM
Skoutz,

There is an old saying, The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It does not matter one iota what Danny's initial intentions were. He abandoned this project like a yellow bellied coward. I see pictures of him buying fancy cars. It sounds more like he cut and run when he got caught stealing the money (BTC). It will be interesting to see how much BTC is left over if any. He in no way explained himself as to what happened. He lied about contacting the police regarding threats.  If he got involved with criminals and they threatened him that simply shows he lacks moral composition.

Let me spell it out for you:

WITH DANNY BREWSTER AS CEO THIS INVESTMENT NEVER HAD A CHANCE!!


THIS INVESTMENT?
I missed the early history:
Did Neo and Bee start here at bitcointalk.org, or did they exist first and come here looking for more funding?
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April 13, 2014, 01:59:50 PM
ANY MORE EXPLANATIONS
Well, if the company was functioning normally, why did those two persons complain to the police?  Why didn't Mr. Brewster get in touch with them to give them the private keys to their wallets?

And how did you know who those two people were? The newspapers did not identify them.

Are you still in Cyprus?
newbie
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April 13, 2014, 01:32:31 PM
 Reply NanoAkron,
You are asking for evidence,what evidence do you want,pictures?? OK tomorrow i will post you pictures of the Bank,the offices and the software company.
newbie
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April 13, 2014, 01:25:47 PM
reply to JorgeStolfi ,

No i did not get a fast train,the flight from My place(Athens)to Larnaca (CYPRUS )IS ONLY 90MIN. The drive from Larnaca to Nicosia 40 MIN,the drive from my hotel,Hilton Park to Neo and Bee office 5min.
I did not talk to the Police but to the persons,that gave the money,one is a contractor in the building ,the other has an office in the same building.

ANY MORE EXPLANATIONS
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April 13, 2014, 01:17:55 PM
reply to JorgeStolfi ,

No i did not take a fast train,the flight from M
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April 13, 2014, 11:28:46 AM
These are all the posts of @CAFE_NEO. Note that they are on different threads.
Hi I am back I am on my way to Cyprus wait for my news
I am an investor with 100K shares
I went to neo office and is still there the bank is still there the software cpmpany is there and fully fanctioning so what the hell all say are all lost nothing is lost.
!visited yesterday neo and bee office still there the bank still there the software company still there and factionong the the advertismet  company working so what the hell is happening all this for free shares!
In my opinion Neo must reduce now costs and this is possible get some small investments to cover cretidors and in less than six months will show profit
The situation with the police is as follows: Danny got 20,000 euros from one customer,and 15,000 euros from another,to give them equivalent bit coins,and at the same time manage there wallets.
Danny made the wallets,put the equivalent bit coins in .
So no funny business until then .But since Danny left Cyprus the two persons got scared and they reported the matter to the police.
They have the wallets, the bit coins but they cannot access the wallets.
That was quick, you left some other country on Friday ~07:30 European time, and by the end of that day you had traveled to Cyprus, visited the central office and the store, assessed the financial situation, and talked to the police about the coins.  Did you drive, or did you take the high-speed train?
sr. member
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April 13, 2014, 07:53:53 AM
Sounds reasonable, CAFE NEO.
Your new plan of action, you being in Cyprus:

1.  Find teh cl00less n00bs and go "Dum n00bz, paper wallet right!"
2.  N00bs r all like "yo pigs, we mistake!"
3.  Cops go "O wow lel," rip up arrest warrant.
>>Dany, unspooked, returns to Cyprus, pockets stuffed with new investor bux.<<
4.  Danny unlocks office, texts ex-employees: "yo, watup bitchas, who hungry?"
6.  Ex-employees go "OHAI Danny," run back 2 work.
7.  Danny texts creditors "want ur stinking fiat? Tongue"
8.  Huh
9.  PROFIT.

In the meantime, I snap up some cheap shares.  What could possibly go wrong?
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April 13, 2014, 07:30:18 AM

The situation with the police is as follows: Danny got 20,000 euros from one customer,and 15,000 euros from another,to give them equivalent bit coins,and at the same time manage there wallets.
Danny made the wallets,put the equivalent bit coins in .
So no funny business until then .But since Danny left Cyprus the two persons got scared and they reported the matter to the police.
They have the wallets, the bit coins but they cannot access the wallets.

Any evidence for your claims?

This is getting really tiring guys - most of my replies are me asking for evidence. Why is this so hard to understand? You make a claim, you provide evidence for it.
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April 13, 2014, 06:54:18 AM

The situation with the police is as follows: Danny got 20,000 euros from one customer,and 15,000 euros from another,to give them equivalent bit coins,and at the same time manage there wallets.
Danny made the wallets,put the equivalent bit coins in .
So no funny business until then .But since Danny left Cyprus the two persons got scared and they reported the matter to the police.
They have the wallets, the bit coins but they cannot access the wallets.
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Martijn Meijering
April 13, 2014, 05:25:28 AM
Easy to say that in hindsight.
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April 13, 2014, 05:13:59 AM
Skoutz,

There is an old saying, The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It does not matter one iota what Danny's initial intentions were. He abandoned this project like a yellow bellied coward. I see pictures of him buying fancy cars. It sounds more like he cut and run when he got caught stealing the money (BTC). It will be interesting to see how much BTC is left over if any. He in no way explained himself as to what happened. He lied about contacting the police regarding threats.  If he got involved with criminals and they threatened him that simply shows he lacks moral composition.

Let me spell it out for you:

WITH DANNY BREWSTER AS CEO THIS INVESTMENT NEVER HAD A CHANCE!!
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April 13, 2014, 03:30:12 AM
someone should take actions towards this situation and help us to resolve the problem,
really appreciate for that.
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April 12, 2014, 08:04:11 PM
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Martijn Meijering
April 12, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
I do not know more about this case than any random reader of this thread.  However, the transition from incompetence to criminality seems to be common in similar situations.

I agree this is a plausible possibility in this case.
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April 12, 2014, 12:28:46 PM
If what you are saying is right, then the guy managed to tranform stupidity into a criminal offence!!!
I do not know more about this case than any random reader of this thread.  However, the transition from incompetence to criminality seems to be common in similar situations.

When debts pile up and plans fail, a manager often chooses to risk some irregular workarounds (like mislabeling losses as long-term investments, using funds that he should not use, etc.) rather than admitting his incompetence (and perhaps losing his job).  When those workarounds too fail, he would be forced into even bigger violations of the rules to "fix" them.  At some point he recognizes that he has become a criminal, and then he will start planning and acting like one.  The CEOs of Enron, Worldcom, and even Madoff seem to have slipped down this path.

Another way a manager may slip into criminality is by paying himself and/or friends an exaggerated salary at a time when the company has more debts than capital.  That may seem a negligible risk at the time, but if the company goes bankrupt such generosity will be noted and it may get him charged with fraudulent management.

About those clients who bought bitcoins from Danny that were never delivered, for example: it may be (just an hypothesis) that Danny used that money to pay urgent debts, hoping that he would soon get some revenue somehow that would allow him to buy the bitcoins and honor the deal.  Or perhaps the deals were struck in September, he did not buy the coins immediately, and then found he could not do it after the price increased 5--10 times.

damn the scamers!
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April 12, 2014, 12:06:38 PM
If what you are saying is right, then the guy managed to tranform stupidity into a criminal offence!!!
I do not know more about this case than any random reader of this thread.  However, the transition from incompetence to criminality seems to be common in similar situations.

When debts pile up and plans fail, a manager often chooses to risk some irregular workarounds (like mislabeling losses as long-term investments, using funds that he should not use, etc.) rather than admitting his incompetence (and perhaps losing his job).  When those workarounds too fail, he would be forced into even bigger violations of the rules to "fix" them.  At some point he recognizes that he has become a criminal, and then he will start planning and acting like one.  The CEOs of Enron, Worldcom, and even Madoff seem to have slipped down this path.

Another way a manager may slip into criminality is by paying himself and/or friends an exaggerated salary at a time when the company has more debts than capital.  That may seem a negligible risk at the time, but if the company goes bankrupt such generosity will be noted and it may get him charged with fraudulent management.

About those clients who bought bitcoins from Danny that were never delivered, for example: it may be (just an hypothesis) that Danny used that money to pay urgent debts, hoping that he would soon get some revenue somehow that would allow him to buy the bitcoins and honor the deal.  Or perhaps the deals were struck in September, he did not buy the coins immediately, and then found he could not do it after the price increased 5--10 times.


Agree.
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April 12, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
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