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newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
March 05, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
I love this new community airdrop. I will get involved to see the results?
There's any bounty for portuguese translation?
jr. member
Activity: 92
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 10:46:35 PM
i dnt know which discussion im going to join.. maybe here.. im just crossing my fingers.. Smiley
hope someone could help me. thanks..
yes it is true for those of us who have no merit we can only hope in this program and can only see the progress of this project.

per discord merit is no longer a metric
jr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 10:36:10 PM
i dnt know which discussion im going to join.. maybe here.. im just crossing my fingers.. Smiley
hope someone could help me. thanks..
yes it is true for those of us who have no merit we can only hope in this program and can only see the progress of this project.
sr. member
Activity: 868
Merit: 279
March 05, 2018, 08:34:10 PM
People in bitcointalk really have to educate themselves and protect each other with initiatives like Nevra's distribution. Make this forum the home of genuine people with real interest for cryptocurrency and not with real interest for profits and greed. That's what most projects that pop out are all about.

People thinking that they will get free money just from commenting a one line post and giving away their personal info like twitter handle and email address in airdrop forms need to question what are they doing and who are they doing this for. Most people are just like bots replying something, filling out the form, done. They don't think about the consequences.

That technique of sending a "donation" to receive an airdrop proved to be a complete scam for every single project that did this. I fell for a couple but really helped me learned to open my eyes and question everything I do. I see it with a current airdrop that's going on for a token called SMOKE. People are just required to post daily to receive an airdrop. Post useless comments that bring nothing to the community.This project is not necessarily a scam but is a very ineffective airdrop method.

But right now there's a scam going on called ATRL token, they are doing airdrops. I was interested and felt skeptic the more I did my research about the "company". Until finally someone exposed them showing how their website is a pure copy of another project. It sucks how no one cares because everyone seem to be in autopilot in that thread just commenting for the sake of the airdrop. I was interested in it, and holy shit I feel relieved I didn't participated.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
March 05, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
i can see that there are many applicants are flagged.. why?
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
March 05, 2018, 08:17:32 PM
i dnt know which discussion im going to join.. maybe here.. im just crossing my fingers.. Smiley
hope someone could help me. thanks..
jr. member
Activity: 79
Merit: 1
ETN = Freedom
March 05, 2018, 08:07:30 PM
Twitter: https://twitter.com/NevraXEV

Discord: https://t.co/QOIvWVagnX

So I noticed you have are on twitter and discord let me suggest you also getting a medium and telegram account setup. As these would expose the project future and get the community engaged, because if you get the cap of 1000 stakeholders of Nerva you would still require a larger community outside the stakeholders to follow up the project and it progress for them to determine if it worth them getting in. I don't think this thread is enough. More exposure.

嗨Hey, man, where's the link? Can you send it for me?
member
Activity: 254
Merit: 10
March 05, 2018, 07:33:07 PM
So I noticed you have are on twitter and discord let me suggest you also getting a medium and telegram account setup. As these would expose the project future and get the community engaged, because if you get the cap of 1000 stakeholders of Nerva you would still require a larger community outside the stakeholders to follow up the project and it progress for them to determine if it worth them getting in. I don't think this thread is enough. More exposure.

嗨Hey, man, where's the link? Can you send it for me?
member
Activity: 254
Merit: 10
March 05, 2018, 07:08:28 PM
Hi: although there are 43 page posts in the BTT forum but Twitter is still not very active, remind the participants to forward and pay more attention to Twitter.
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
March 05, 2018, 07:04:07 PM
So I noticed you have are on twitter and discord let me suggest you also getting a medium and telegram account setup. As these would expose the project future and get the community engaged, because if you get the cap of 1000 stakeholders of Nerva you would still require a larger community outside the stakeholders to follow up the project and it progress for them to determine if it worth them getting in. I don't think this thread is enough. More exposure.
full member
Activity: 274
Merit: 100
March 05, 2018, 06:28:03 PM
this is the project I'm waiting for, I've been reading threads from many projects but it's only a short explanation that can not convince anyone to think that the project has a bright prospect, hopefully with the coin promotional way, many people will understand about this project and certainly many investors will join
full member
Activity: 259
Merit: 100
- "Bitcore (BTX) - The Future is Now"
March 05, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
Really interesting stuff here , primarily that you first stay on bitcointalk only.
I think it will build a better less scattered  community and people will be more involved .
Also makes it easier to check up on the project.
Most important imo is that you are not asking for kyc info , which seems to be more common but is also dangerous for participants.
I would really like to be part of this , because this seems to be a pretty unique project.


newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
OK, I have been watching this thread for a couple of days and I couldn't help but notice the no trust people are showing toward this project, but maybe this is because of what all airdrops had came to these days, NEVRA is a revolutionary project that will bring back the rules of  distribution back to its solid foundation and should be supported. I am not understanding why people are acting this way, I mean really? there is nothing to loose and everything to gain, the rules are simple, the team is honest and the communication is open, what else could you ask for? remember trust should be showed both ways so trust the team and be patient and you will be rewarded.  
I suspect this applies to my post?
You probably have never dealt with real investments if you write such simple things. A real investment is what is required after the project starts and claims to top 100 or now even top 20. Understanding the founder's biography and the main competitive advantages - the basic things that are always asked. As well as technical features of the project.
A strong community of the project means a real interest in his fate, and therefore a detailed study. Usually, those who simply participate wherever there is nothing to lose, getting their share quickly cash out and does not affect the development of the project as a whole. Remember that your time is more expensive than money and you lose it.
A detailed study takes hours and days. I have already spent many hours studying the project, the biography of its author and related things, because I was interested, as I said.
He asked about the skills of those who wants to be a part of the team. So it is ok if he was asked also. Don't see the negativity.

I am not sure why you are thinking I was commenting on your post, if I did I would have quoted you. please refrain from accusations based of pure speculations, if you are the professional investor you claim you are you should know that speculations do not belong in the crypto world. you also cannot possibly deduct my investment experience based on my short post.
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 250
March 05, 2018, 04:31:51 PM
Now this looks like something else.
Besides the whitepaper and the technicalities, I very much like the transparency I have seen so far.
It's kinda of the same importance to me as having good features, I think people underestimate that these days, blinded by the idea of fast easy returns or just out of ignorance.
But pair that transparency with the necessary effort and you have a great place to start from.
I'll definitely be part of this if you'll have me that is Wink

I concur, the platform to start from looks solid, interest are growing and we have many discussions emanating from this ideology.

Its really nice for the first time in a while we can debate constructively without the usual slander of "shit coin" "when airdrop" "this is scam" etc.

I would like to see what features this team have planned, I'm aware the technical bit are yet to be disclosed but a sneak peak would garner more interest and make for good discussion.
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
March 05, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
i am diving in this airdrop . nice project
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 250
March 05, 2018, 04:10:33 PM
Now this looks like something else.
Besides the whitepaper and the technicalities, I very much like the transparency I have seen so far.
It's kinda of the same importance to me as having good features, I think people underestimate that these days, blinded by the idea of fast easy returns or just out of ignorance.
But pair that transparency with the necessary effort and you have a great place to start from.
I'll definitely be part of this if you'll have me that is Wink
full member
Activity: 185
Merit: 100
March 05, 2018, 02:33:19 PM
Ok, so, as I promised 10 days ago, and given an adequate response to differing opinions:
What about your background? (especially technical expertise) - as I see your university degree is not about IT. Self-taught? Where can I see the results and experience?
That`s a normal question because you hired people earlier in your previous projects and asked for proof of qualification, but I could not find where the evidence of your qualification is provided.
At least - github profile, moreover: successful projects.
There are two common ways to demonstrate founder's qualification:
1. Demonstration of strong technical skills, especially in mathematics (and this way can be anonymous, given everyone's favorite example: Satoshi.) But your scientific solutions should be at a brilliant level.
2. Full disclosure of your personality and achievements, and example again: Colin LeMahieu which combines the first paragraph with great background (such as LLVM Software Tools Engineer at Qualcomm).
As I can see you are not anonymous for personal reasons because of your photo, phone number, linkedin profile and so on.
But I can`t see neither your code nor your professional background.
I looked at your posts: most about ICO, financial perspectives, skams and like that. I did not find branches with serious technical analysis. And even in this thread the main issue is the distribution of coins, but not the solution of the technical problem for which the project is created (Yes, I've read that you will publish information about it later). In addition to the problem of unfair distribution through existing airdrops, I did not see the main milestones. Moreover, we all understand that with the listing on the exchanges: there will be no equality of holders, so it is a large effort to create the illusion of equality (or equal start) for a short time.
No matter who we list from successful platform founders: utopianfuture and clemahieu or even V. Buterin and Satoshi - they are all technical geniuses that it was clear in their work and vector work (you can see first posts on bitcointalk from NEM and Raiblocks founders - all were about maths and IT solutions). Are you strong enough in these directions?
Frankly speaking, I was surprised by the amount of profanity and in-depth analysis of fraudulent schemes by various strange projects on bitcointalk in your posts.

Also weird moment with the search for Nevra`s developer. Usually people know at least a few developers when working in this field, especially considering that Java is not such a rare programming language. In addition, you have already had past projects, but there is not a single suitable contact. You decide to look for an unfamiliar person but you do not inform in an open form that you can do by yourself.
Almost all serious projects write new code and do not use leftovers from the fork in the end. Can you do it as well?
In addition, a large team of qualified specialists is already working on NEM, for example. Taking into account the financial success of the project for this day.
You plan to improve the existing code during the year by finding a couple of developers on the forum (with a basic level of qualification, according to the requirements that I saw.)
On my view success is possible only if you are extremely gifted specialist.

There are several development trends for this year:
1. Anonymity (yes even more than now), but you said that the existing level in NEM is ok and nothing needs to be changed, so in this direction specialized currencies such as XSPES will be ahead.
2. Solving the problem with transactions and fees (preferably zero fees) and it is not important DAG or not.
3. Unification and harmonization of the various blockchains.
All these questions require infinitely talented developers.

P.S. It was all written because I saw in you something different from the crowd. If initially it seemed the obvious failure, I would not waste time on this post, and would write just well done, I'm in, all the success and so a couple of sentences to get to the list.
Please give truthful answers as possible. I think this will help many people who have questions about the part I mentioned. Thanks in advance.


Thanks for your thoughtful questions and would be happy to answer them.

1) In regards to my technical experience, it's minimal, hence why i'm actively recruiting a Java developer. My technical experience with blockchains goes as far as understanding code and compiling and running the code, and verifying if everything is properly done. As far as writing/coding blockchains, that's not where my expertise lye's. I've always been a leader and investor. I have a well-rounded background in EE, a bachelors, so my experience with understanding concepts is pretty intensive.

I'm not looking into bringing in any contacts i've known prior, because most are busy with other projects or have left crypto entirely. Bringing in certain developers also creates drama for their past experiences, and i want to mitagate that, because then Nevra woulden't be about Nevra fully, it'd be about that person's background on that last coin. It both has drawbacks and benefits ofc. Nevra is a coin for the community by the community, i'm just supplying the materials to build the car, the car needs to be assembled.

2) As far as your heavier technical qualifications goes, it doesn't pertain to Nevra. We aren't re-writing the wheel here, and we aren't seeking any type of funds for even doing this distribution. You've mistaken Nevra for the other 1000s of shitcoins that are out there today. The goal of Nevra's testnet will be towards adding features and optimizing the blockchain minimal, so that it appears and acts in a different manner than NEM.

In regards to NEM, Utopianfuture and etc, they didn't re-create the wheel either. NEM is a fork off of NXT, while they claim to re-written all the code, i suspect it was due to the lack of fully running a NXT fork, due to code not being fully available. Thus, they just re-wrote NXT's code structure and created a different version. There are technical modifications to the blockchain, but at the heart of NEM, it's ultimately is a NXT 2.0.

Utopianfuture was not a technical guy, he was just the guy who came up with the idea of NEM, i don't believe he had any technicial background. By the time NEM was released, Utopian was long gone from NEM, due to the controversy of claiming double stakes.

I could get into details in regards to other developers, but just know they raised Millions in funds (directly or indirectly) to recruit top talent, but we are discussing the top 20 coins here. At a later time, Nevra will be in the same position, but it will take some time, a lot of effort and a bit of luck.

3) In regards to development, again we aren't going to re-create the wheel here. You misunderstand the purpose of Nevra, and what we are trying to achieve here. The entire goal and purpose of this project was born out of passion and disgust for what has been occurring on BTT. Many "devs" and scammers seek millions of USD in funding for a basic ERC20 token, or an infrastructure that was forked off of other coins, and ultimately re-branded.

The goal with Nevra is to basically due away with all the bullshit and return to the roots of crypto. The reason we are going to fork off of NEM instead of creating a brand new ERC20 token, or merely forking a POS coin, is because it will greatly enhance the appeal of this coin, and to show that with a bit of effort you can create something special. It will not take a lot of effort to add a few features, to make Nevra an original coin on the markets. We aren't trying to compete for the top TPS, or best anonymity, we are trying to really upset all airdrops and airdropped coin distributions, showing how it can be done, and how it supposed to be done. As this project gains more traction, there will be a broader interest to really pull in talent.

Lastly, NEM was founded by the community, you underestimate the amount of talent that lurks on BTT. You also said the egalitarian principal is invalid once the coin hits on an exchange, well getting listing on an exchange is not the ultimate goal. I would believe saying egalitarianism on an exchange is almost trivial, because principals and foundations are not started on an exchange, the start with the team and community behind the coin.

If there is anything i unanswered, let me know. Hope this helps a bit
I'm really appreciate your answering the above-mentioned questions that's let many people get know who you are and what's the best effort you've doing regarding Nevra project.
jr. member
Activity: 102
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 02:31:29 PM
OK, I have been watching this thread for a couple of days and I couldn't help but notice the no trust people are showing toward this project, but maybe this is because of what all airdrops had came to these days, NEVRA is a revolutionary project that will bring back the rules of  distribution back to its solid foundation and should be supported. I am not understanding why people are acting this way, I mean really? there is nothing to loose and everything to gain, the rules are simple, the team is honest and the communication is open, what else could you ask for? remember trust should be showed both ways so trust the team and be patient and you will be rewarded.  
I suspect this applies to my post?
You probably have never dealt with real investments if you write such simple things. A real investment is what is required after the project starts and claims to top 100 or now even top 20. Understanding the founder's biography and the main competitive advantages - the basic things that are always asked. As well as technical features of the project.
A strong community of the project means a real interest in his fate, and therefore a detailed study. Usually, those who simply participate wherever there is nothing to lose, getting their share quickly cash out and does not affect the development of the project as a whole. Remember that your time is more expensive than money and you lose it.
A detailed study takes hours and days. I have already spent many hours studying the project, the biography of its author and related things, because I was interested, as I said.
He asked about the skills of those who wants to be a part of the team. So it is ok if he was asked also. Don't see the negativity.
jr. member
Activity: 102
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 02:16:23 PM
Moreover, we all understand that with the listing on the exchanges: there will be no equality of holders, so it is a large effort to create the illusion of equality (or equal start) for a short time.
Your reply is this thread I saw so far the most wonderful post, I carefully read your post, forgive my understanding of the blockchain is not deep enough, I can not fully understand you the contents of the post, but I agree with your words, this is not absolute equality in the world. Nevra is not truly absolutely equality, but they have been trying to do the best, We should recognize their efforts.
Manual work of this type is always long and requires a lot of effort, no doubt. It was about what the effect of these efforts will be for a short time (then the richer will buy coins from the poorer). And that`s ok, it is our reality, no problem.
Now everything looks honest and selfless. I hope the founder have enough moral and material capacity to bring this project to success. We all have duty and sometimes full time work in an unpaid project may not last long enough.
Despite decentralization, most of the projects we have been associated with their founders as the basis (even if over time they move away).
I hope that the founder's activity on the forum will not decrease and he will not disappear for a couple of years, as it was from August 19, 2015 to August 31, 2017.
if nothing bad happens, I will also try to participate in the discussion of the project, while my thoughts and advice will seem useful to the community. Smiley
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 01:53:13 PM
OK, I have been watching this thread for a couple of days and I couldn't help but notice the no trust people are showing toward this project, but maybe this is because of what all airdrops had came to these days, NEVRA is a revolutionary project that will bring back the rules of  distribution back to its solid foundation and should be supported. I am not understanding why people are acting this way, I mean really? there is nothing to loose and everything to gain, the rules are simple, the team is honest and the communication is open, what else could you ask for? remember trust should be showed both ways so trust the team and be patient and you will be rewarded.  
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