Topic: New Official AMT Thread - page 101. (Read 149453 times)

I completely agree. My dragons shipped directly from factory in China work great! My American AMT miners are 2 months late now....... This round goes to China. They work, they hash, THEY'RE REAL AND I HAVE THEM.

I find it ironic they think they are better than "Chinese companies" let me tell you, Chinese companies take way more pride in their work. Even when it comes to the box. Not only do Chinese companies use a proper box, they have the information printed on the box. Something like company name, sizes of items, etc.. They also plan for proper size foam packing that fit the box. I am sure there are many American companies also that do this as well.

Not that I am fixated on how the box looks, but AMT did not bother to even use an actually box to ship a $6,000 computer!

This was posted 2 days ago.    

Waiting for new info.

I find it ironic they think they are better than "Chinese companies" let me tell you, Chinese companies take way more pride in their work. Even when it comes to the box. Not only do Chinese companies use a proper box, they have the information printed on the box. Something like company name, sizes of items, etc.. They also plan for proper size foam packing that fit the box. I am sure there are many American companies also that do this as well.

Not that I am fixated on how the box looks, but AMT did not even use a real box!

I've been watching the Bitmine boards.  There are some similarities and differences between how they have interacted with customers.

AMT:

1 - No refunds to be received by anyone
2 - No reliably working miners at the 1.2 TH/s range
3 - No technical support

Bitmine

1 - Refunds have been given to some but not all buyers
2 - They have shipped miners that work reliably under 800 GH/s
3 - They provide some technical support.  I got a backplane from them even though I'm not even a customer!

There is a real difference between a company that does make some effort to help customers.  With the case of AMT,  that assistance is non-existent.

I believe the photos of the box show further evidence they did no planning at all, no power supplies, no heat sinks except for 99 cent store ones, and they did not even bother being proactive and have boxes read for shipping the miners!

Yes, we're working on the professional aspect now.

1. is definitely a go.
2. Is getting there as long as we can source the heatsinks by the end of the week. (dynatron setup has potential but when it comes to technobit its usually best to keep it as is because that's how it has been designed to work).  
3. Is happening as well but will not be up and running until mid next week, realistically.

Not too many takers for the rest. But we'll include a payback option as well, just for other clients which have not been following this thread.

So here's the next step. We're working on the site now, creating a specific section which defines these options in detail and we've been having the lawyers draft/review them and we'll have the final draft back tomorrow. We just don't want to say/offer something wrong or something that could make the situation worse or who knows how people can spin it  right. Tomorrow afternoon we'll post this section as well as send out a mailer to all clients who would like to review the options. Those of you which have already made a selection or mentioned a preference here have been noted but we'll still need you to officially select the which option you'd like tomorrow as well.

AMT_MINERS - IT HAS BEEN 6 MONTHS OF FAILED ATTEMPTS...

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THIS IS HOW AMT SHIPPED ME A $6,000 COMPUTER THEY DID NOT EVEN USE A REAL BOX, THEY MADE ONE OUT OF CARDBOARD PIECES. THEY DIDNT EVEN BOTHER ORDERING PROPER BOXES.

Yes, the damages are indeed piling up over time.   Also consider the cost of litigation.  AMT will have to pay the defendant's lawyers in event of a loss.  The case though is not even remotely winnable so this is practically guaranteed.

I think if AMT does not come up with an acceptable settlement with the next week or so, then we will need to see how we can freeze their assets just like they've done with HashFast. see:  https://coinreport.net/court-freezing-hashfast-bitcoin-wallets/

In addition, the company will require an audit.  

Yes, $3800 other damages, an 3-4T of mining power, maybe much more when this goes to trial. Personally, I am seeking every penny I can get.

Yes, $3800 other damages, an 3-4T of mining power, maybe much more when this goes to trial. Personally, I am seeking every penny I can get.

And the historical bitcoin loss is not speculative, if it was future loss that would be speculative.

MPP was referred to as the computer being worth only 1/3 as much now.

@AMT...we were expecting an update today based on your word. At this point all of us are holding AMT accountable for this...considering that this is more of the same misrepresentation, you are legally liable while in the middle of a lawsuit for presenting this information to us. You cannot expect us to not be angry when you back out on your word yet again. I have to concur with sirminesalot on this position. We all have been waiting an incredible amount of time and being strung along with what should have been a simple transaction.

We still have no information on process for RMA, or what will replace the current product....will the MPP be honored? and if so why not? We have been asking what are valid questions here and considering the circumstances it is incumbent upon you to provide some answers for us. We have all tried to be very patient some more than others, but with this latest break in word, its getting old. While you have had marto validate that you will be using his designs, the concern is that he is not making them and instead we are again relying on you to provide us with hardware (because the first time did not go so well so can you blame us).....also it appears now you have the FBI investigating you based on Mrparks source. Considering his background which you publicly posted, I would not consider that a bluff.

I personally tried to help out for the sake of the customers but it does not appear you really want to try to make this right. Communication is key in all this and we are just seeing more words with little or no substance. If you say you will post an announcement then post it when you say you will. At this point the chips fall where they may. I had hoped keeping order in this thread would actually help get you to communicate more, but its only lead to alot more of the same misleading and stringing along statements.

The chips appear to be assembled properly. BUT one problem is the amount of thermal grease too much and too little and general build quality of the hardware. It seems like there is no uniformity in the build batches. one could have one voltage and another board another....so if you run cgminer on one voltage you will have a board or 4 burn out on you. So any uniform or standard setting (which in actuality was the default bitmine settings that were much higher and would cause the boards to fry almost as soon as they came online) could cause the boards to fry.

I ran into this with one miner that had 3 boards pretty much die on me in 5 minutes and then a 4th shortly and I was able to salvage a 5th onto my working miner that had one dead board....that 4th board died a couple of days later while leaving me now with 4 out of 10 working boards..at this point i am expecting them to die at some point. But knock on wood they are still working. So the design is a working design. But the build quality and general QA testing was pretty much non-existent hence the problems.

Can someone who has received one of the 1.2 Th/s miners confirm that the heatsink on the A1 chip is only on the top (e.g., there is no heatsink on the backside of the PCB)?  I ask because it is clear looking at Innosilicon specs that a majority of the heat is designed to go to the PCB side (back) and heatsinks on both back and front are *required* by spec... that could explain the meltdowns.  Sorry if that was covered before.

We can just send you technobit boards anyway since we're producing them now anyway. What's your order number.

Here is the whole case. I paid $6000 for a computer promised by a certain date by wire. No delivery was made, no working design was even available. The computer is now only worth 1/3 as much today as when promised Feb 2014. Speculation has nothing to do with my case. These are the facts.