Topic: New Official AMT Thread - page 118. (Read 149472 times)

Honestly, the 96 chips pay back sounds like the best solution.  You get like 2.4 THs of chips and you can go over to technobit to build the solution.   I like that idea.

So AMT,  how about shipping me 96 Coincraft A1 chips as compensation for the $6,000 I paid you?

I might be interested in getting the chips, but I want more than just 50.  AMT sells 50 chips for $4,300 and 75 for $6,450. (http://advancedminers.com/bitcoin-mining-hardware/coin-craft-a1-chip/)
Why would I take such a big hit?  I paid a little over $6,000 for the miner.

Give me 96 chips, the extras for such a long delay, so I can have Technobit assemble them for me with their boards.  This will be roughly an extra $3,600 cost for me, not to mention all the accessories that will be needed.  I think that is a very fair deal given the circumstances.



If I really could have a fully assembled, tested and working 1.2Th miner within 7 days though I would probably just choose that option.

Option #9 - Buy those of us who have been suffering a single spondoolies at 1.4Th/s cost is only $4,000 (I will have it hosted myself not to complicate things). It is much cheaper, and I have a great contact over there. We win because we get the miner, you win because this will cost you significantly less than $6,000. Maybe they can also get you a deal where the miners are even cheaper than that if you buy in bulk. Just a side note, the deal will not involve me since I don't work for either company. The other $2000 we can figure out later

Well true,  that's because the AMT boards don't have room to add a bigger heat sink.   The capacitors are in the way.

Also if you look at your board you'll notice that the components are different and in different spots as well. Don't forget to point that one out.

We can just send you technobit boards anyway since we're producing them now anyway. What's your order number.

Interesting... found this in Bitmine forum:



Notice how much bigger the heat sink is on this.  Also,  the customer claims that the unit blew up because the heat sink fell off.

Apparently those heat sinks are very important.  No wonder both Technobit and Dragon have huge heatsinks on the side of the chip.

I might be interested in getting the chips, but I want more than just 50.  AMT sells 50 chips for $4,300 and 75 for $6,450. (http://advancedminers.com/bitcoin-mining-hardware/coin-craft-a1-chip/)
Why would I take such a big hit?  I paid a little over $6,000 for the miner.

Give me 96 chips, the extras for such a long delay, so I can have Technobit assemble them for me with their boards.  This will be roughly an extra $3,600 cost for me, not to mention all the accessories included.  I think that is a very fair deal given the circumstances.



If I really could have a fully assembled, tested and working 1.2Th miner within 7 days though I would probably just choose that option.

Carlos, you are apart of the problem and not the solution you know that. We'll think about it and get back to you buddy.

Really?  You aren't just any other company... you are AMT... a company known to rarely deliver on their promises.

Deliver the chips and we have a deal.

Fair and square.  

Really? Any other company would say send back your unit and and we'll fix it and send it back to you. We're offering you chips instead. You'll need to send that miner back and when we have it we'll send you chips. Or just stick around and complain. That's a fair settlement seeing as how your in the class anyway and will most like stay in it to try and get your cut.

No deal.

You send me 50 *working* coincraft A1 chips and when I receive it, then I will send you back your broken hardware.

After that, we are all even and you I'll drop all complaints that have been filled.

Clearly I am taking a hair-cut here, but heck.. I'm tired of this fiasco and don't want to waste any more time on it.

Deal.

Send the miner back today. Use the fedex account number and address that was provided to you before. And when we receive it we'll ship you back the 40 chips plus 10 more.

Finally... the first acknowledgement from AMT that my miner does not work.

That's after 3 weeks of sending emails to these folk.

3 weeks of lost mining revenue.

My preferences in order:

#1 but only on two conditions: (A) the problems encountered by others have been fixed, and the miners will operate stably at 1.2 Gh/s (and not kits, we are talking assembled ready to hash miners), and (B) they can be shipped in the next 7 days.  Given that 1 Th/s miners with 1000 watt power draw are shipping for 2600-3000, this is a pretty big step down so I think you still need to consider compensation (see below).

#6 If #1 isn't feasible, and on the same conditions (miners are actually shipping in 7 days, and are stable 70 Mh/s).  Again, I think comp is still an issue.

#4 if #1 and #2 cannot be done within a short period of time, and there really is no other good alternative.

As far as compensation, if AMT wants to continue to stay in business the above do not address compensation at all.  Obviously, if this is essentially a liquidation plan then compensation is moot as you just be delivering what you can.  However, if AMT is going to sell new miners (scrypt or otherwise), you owe it to those of us who (funded) stuck with you all this time to give back some form of compensation even if not just cash.  Even if BTC price had stayed above 700-800, the increased in difficulty (predictable) and the decrease in cost per Gh/s (also predictable) has made the delay cost us more than 60% (e.g, A1-based 1 Th/s miners going for around $3K now plus the loss of mining March - May).   Assuming AMT plans to stay in business, the compensation that would seem feasible could be: (A) additional or more powerful hashing boards provided at cost, when available, and (B) discounts on future miners (e.g., 50% up to $3,500 per 1.2 Th/s miner paid for).

You need to explain how you are spending *our money* to buy out equipment from another party to ship to us.  

Are you buying depreciated assets and having us customers accept the depreciated assets?

You need to explain how you are spending *our money* to buy out equipment from another party to ship to us.  

Are you buying depreciated assets and having us customers accept the depreciated assets?