Topic: New Official AMT Thread - page 143. (Read 149472 times)

its not just voltage man. the coincraft desk rigs have been run at 1v+ by users at a clock speed of 16000:1000000:8000,  

amt machine runs 0.81v-0.86v at speeds of  16000:750000:4000

i presume these are the a1 options like icarus options on the block erupters

voltage and clock speeds keep temps down nicely. if you used the coincraft desk options and voltages on the amt machine it would be like chinese new years on the equator. hot hot fireworks

im running 3 boards and pulling 610w at the wall with a corsair RM 1000w psu so i cant see it been the wattage of your psu as my 3 cards can run on a 750w psu with the same hash rates (im in uk so dont know if that makes a difference)

Mostly. Mine mines at 1.2Ths for a while but I noticed some power sags. My guess is that the PSU is not up to snuff despite the wattage on it. Each rail is getting fed around 20A-25A which may not be enough. The PSUs that AMT recommended have the following +3.3V@25A,+5V@25A,+12V1@110A,+12V2@50A, [email protected],[email protected] noting the 2 12V rails being at 110A and 12V2 at 50A. This should resolve the issue. It appears that the AMT systems are volted differently than the stock coincraft machines which I think was mentioned in this thread or another one. So it might make sense why it would work like this.

But as far as reliable and consistent mining I have not experienced that quite yet. I want to test with AMT's recommended PSU's before saying its 2 faulty miners. I have been working at this trial and error. If the PSU's work then I will get a 24/48/72 hour test out with stats from that. I will have them tomorrow so I can start posting some preliminary results then. I figure if I use AMTs recommended setup then there is no excuse why it should not work. The chips are being detected and the hardware is showing up...its just not hashing due to the power issue. Casey also had a similar problem and just added more problem and it worked for him.

But because poserko loshia is withholding information and does not want to share his vast knowledge with the world, it appears we will never see them fixed /sarcasm

that is one of 5 threads related to bitmine they too had to shut threads due to trolls and bad customer relations.. if the parent company experiences issues the sister/child/reseller inherits this. that is my point. plus stands to reason bitmine would sent out good stuff to their cust and ship amt the fud lol.

no offense here but what is your order number? your miner? your pool graph?
i know you have had nothing bad to say about me but i see you confronting people every day.
if you don't have a miner or expecting one then why do you insist on trolling people here?
the people with miners want to get them working with help from others but there is a select few who keep spamming this thread for the fun of it.
yes we got ripped off in terms of delays/broken miners but we have to deal with it and make the most of what we got.
if you have no miner or order with amt then why are you here?

EDIT wrong quote but still meant for you loshia

Well if the AMT problems are the fault of bitmine then its on AMT to go after bitmine which may or may not happen. Technically speaking we cannot (AFAIK) bitmine does not sell directly in the us. They utilize resellers like AMT. That could be just for the chips tho. Besides suing a company in europe is VERY time consuming. Could be years before someone even looks at the case and starts any kind of proceedings. Not sure if it works like that in switzerland, but that is what I have read about with other cases.

Yes it terms of customer service they may be alike but georgio stuff works

in reference to the co defendant bit......


bitmine issues. reality of which is almost a carbon copy of the amt issues. lacking psu and cases




https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291141.2680 - thread read yourself

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And again no useful comments. troll and useless human being. Nothing of value to say.

Except for the fact that they are still accepting orders for 2.4T and 3.2T units.

there is no new board. it was under development pre lawsuit and tbh they most prob cant find the funding to implement it.

And again no useful comments. troll and useless human being. Nothing of value to say.

dont bother doing it for him. He is just a useless non-contributor here. What have you seen him post that has been of actual use besides implying I told you so type comments and calling Josh Poserko? That pretty much his whole motto may as well make it his signature.

you know the board the squared off one they were posting in the other thread that you made a big stink about. I don't believe I saved a picture of it, but I'll look through and post it as an edit to this post if I find it.

Not sure that is possible. I mean I imagine it depends on their agreement. That may surface as evidence during the discovery phase of the trial. Maybe we'll know more then.  Otherwise perhaps massive community pressure. Though I can't really expect any sort of tech support or financial redress.

I send this whole hunk of junk back. They can just give me my 1.2 th with that new style pbc, where the chips aren't daisy chained. I don't know how many chips on that board but if it works any better and if they've received them I'd love to see if they run as they should.

I would like to know how we can get Bitmine to support the product now that AMT is virtually non-existent.

I think they took the playbook right out of BFL's playbook.

AMT is taking a gamble that BTC will rise in value.  They unfortunately started selling miners in the November/December time frame.   They don't have money to refund because that is tied up in flawed hardware and the profits are all but gone because the BTC that was paid was not converted up front.

So they are now trying to balance on the legal tight rope by shipping miners (that are unfortunately not working).  

Pro tip AMT isn't a ASIC Manufacturing company.

Now I know shit starts getting tricky when it gets international but I wonder if bitmine can be a co defendant. If they had agreements that were broken tat stopped amt from being able to produce AMT can probably sue them for some sort of breach just like everyone is suing AMT.

I just don't know if we have any legal action we can take against bit mine. But they made sure to tout that they were backed by money of some sort. So I wouldn't be surprised if it was a logical extension.

Now unless they paid ahead and ordered all their parts in advance, really stupid for a non-final product, there isn't any reason that they shouldn't have some sort of money stored. My guess is that is their legal war chest.

Now, I would have and still would gladly take a refund back, But they don't appear to be offering them, legalities or not. I'd much prefer my money than a miner that is 3/5ths non-operational.

Personally I think it was just a situation of a series of bad business choices overall. Not sticking up for them in any way here but most companies usually fail because they got too far ahead of themselves and created more demand than they could meet. In other cases massive screw ups. This was a perfect storm of a bunch of things going wrong for them. It sucks it even had to happen at all. But at the end of the day we as the consumer have to do what is right by us. In the age of the internet its much easier to communicate with other customers and figure things out and get the word out. Bad news WILL travel much faster than good news. Alot of companies still tend to think they can get away with things but with tools like the consumerist, yelp, forums and all sorts of review systems its much easier for the little guy to fight back. This and the previous thread are evidence of that fight back. I look at it as economic Darwinism. They really really needed to communicate in order to survive here. But so long as they are communicating with their customers at some level even if not via this forum they are legally still doing their duty.

IF I had to take a wild guess here, I would say they are looking to fulfill all the orders left, get the miners to people and I presume get working miners to those with failed ones and then close up shop. I might explain why they are "sold out". Legally speaking it would be insane for them to cut and run at this point. They would get nailed very quickly. I don't think that is their move considering how messy this has been. I am sure they are not criminal masterminds or we would not even know we are being scammed until it was WAY too late. All said the signs are there. I think one of two things. They are going either restructure (which happens) or just get out of the mining business once they have met all their obligations. This is just a normal part of how businesses fail in the US.

No defense here just realities of how things go. They will either come out of this better or go bust. Considering the situation though, its not looking good. I think the best thing is to just have the community support each other at this point since there is no real technical support here besides us helping each other out.