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legendary
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April 25, 2014, 02:21:47 PM

Then you should have no problem paying the 40 bucks in shipping as you indicated you wpuld do before I sent it.

geez. I try to help a fellow board member out with an extra part that was sent to me and I still get screwed.


This community sucks.

I suggest you read again the PM that we exchanged.   

Fact is,  I'm still sitting here with a large brick because I don't have the cable that AMT also forgot to send.

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April 25, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
AMT,

Still waiting for the missing backplane and cable that you promised to ship me a week ago.

It has been 3 weeks now since I got my miner.... it has not been runniing because of missing parts.

Are you going to compensate me for the 3 weeks that I am unable to mine?
It may be an ass-backwards way to get them but have you tried PM'ing Phin to get the parts from his miner? Considering he does not mine, might actually be useful for that.

Well, I pinged Bitmine, and they claim that they are sending me the backplane.  

I spent 40 bucks fedexing you one to try to help you out. What BS

Yes, you did send me one, and I did get it.  However,  I'm still missing a cable, so AMT claims to be sending me one with a blackplane.   Bitmine also claims to be sending me a backplane.  So everyone delivers their claim, then I'll have 3 backplanes. 

It however is not B.S. that I am still waiting... I don't have the cable.   Backplane is nice, but they also forgot to send me the cable.     I have also 2 physical damaged boards and am now afraid to send them back since it appears that AMT is not accepting packages from FEDEX.

Then you should have no problem paying the 40 bucks in shipping as you indicated you wpuld do before I sent it.

geez. I try to help a fellow board member out with an extra part that was sent to me and I still get screwed.


This community sucks.
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April 25, 2014, 01:45:17 PM
From the Bitmine thread:

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We're working hardly on it, the power density is so high that it makes engineering very challenging and we want it to hit 3TH/s. Next week we'll get the final run of the rig's mainboard (had to be re-engineered 3 times) and we should be announcing the mass production by then. I would like to point out that the rig's hashing unit's are working and are being already produced, the issue is only related to the mainboard which is a much simpler board and as such can be produced very quickly once the prototype is fixed.

So not 100% sure what 'mainboard' is meant here, but if they mean its the backplane... then a fix is on its way.

Also from that thread...  looks like they have an upgrade of the firmware.

AMT miners work with different settings than the coincraft miners. While their firmware MIGHT work, its not a guarantee. Its one of those at your own risk situations.....but then the DIY kits are kind of that already.

Here's the reality though,  it has been over 2 months since the promised delivery date and all we have are DIY kits (with missing parts in my case)!


Of course but also as real is the fact that unless this is checked out first before just installing, it could cause whats left of the miner to burst into flames if things like voltage settings and such are not taken into account when powering it up. Alot can go wrong with an untested version of software. That said, I did see you asked about AMT hardware. So if the answer is positive there then maybe its doable. Hopefully they reply with a good answer on that.
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April 25, 2014, 01:39:24 PM
From the Bitmine thread:

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We're working hardly on it, the power density is so high that it makes engineering very challenging and we want it to hit 3TH/s. Next week we'll get the final run of the rig's mainboard (had to be re-engineered 3 times) and we should be announcing the mass production by then. I would like to point out that the rig's hashing unit's are working and are being already produced, the issue is only related to the mainboard which is a much simpler board and as such can be produced very quickly once the prototype is fixed.

So not 100% sure what 'mainboard' is meant here, but if they mean its the backplane... then a fix is on its way.

Also from that thread...  looks like they have an upgrade of the firmware.

AMT miners work with different settings than the coincraft miners. While their firmware MIGHT work, its not a guarantee. Its one of those at your own risk situations.....but then the DIY kits are kind of that already.

Here's the reality though,  it has been over 2 months since the promised delivery date and all we have are DIY kits (with missing parts in my case)!



Or nothing at all (in my case!)
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April 25, 2014, 01:30:58 PM
From the Bitmine thread:

Quote
We're working hardly on it, the power density is so high that it makes engineering very challenging and we want it to hit 3TH/s. Next week we'll get the final run of the rig's mainboard (had to be re-engineered 3 times) and we should be announcing the mass production by then. I would like to point out that the rig's hashing unit's are working and are being already produced, the issue is only related to the mainboard which is a much simpler board and as such can be produced very quickly once the prototype is fixed.

So not 100% sure what 'mainboard' is meant here, but if they mean its the backplane... then a fix is on its way.

Also from that thread...  looks like they have an upgrade of the firmware.

AMT miners work with different settings than the coincraft miners. While their firmware MIGHT work, its not a guarantee. Its one of those at your own risk situations.....but then the DIY kits are kind of that already.
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April 25, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
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April 25, 2014, 11:03:02 AM
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April 25, 2014, 09:57:14 AM


And how this affects your POOL graph?




right loshia im notrmaly a cool guy.


FUCK THE POOL GRAPH F?UCK IT TO HELL

one card mined at 0ghs!!!! ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, FUCK ALL i used the "software" changed a few settings of the card and bingo card pulls 200ghs+/- pool and amt screen. that was my point. a dead board that wouldnt mine was revived!!!!! whats hard to comprehend? now if it was doa in the sense its missing chips or generally fucked then yes software will not fix that.
Yeah it is Hard Grin but yes it is a known issue with chips they need power
So at the end if it lasts for 24 hours and you are so kind to share the pool graph i will be thankful
otherwise it doesn't count
As i said we have only one dude who got 100% working equipment it is mellbro
if i recall correctly you do have one of his boards right?



me and mellorbo own the same miner just split the cost 50/50 and take 50/50 minus power costs each. i posted the 24hr pool graph and the weeks pool graph earlier in the week lol
sorry if i sound like i am having a major go at you but the pool graph is not the b-all and end all of this setup. its kinda irrelevant  as amt screen gives a good enough representation of speeds.
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April 25, 2014, 09:44:16 AM


And how this affects your POOL graph?




right loshia im notrmaly a cool guy.


FUCK THE POOL GRAPH F?UCK IT TO HELL

one card mined at 0ghs!!!! ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, FUCK ALL i used the "software" changed a few settings of the card and bingo card pulls 200ghs+/- pool and amt screen. that was my point. a dead board that wouldnt mine was revived!!!!! whats hard to comprehend? now if it was doa in the sense its missing chips or generally fucked then yes software will not fix that.

but if it shows up whaen you type

cgminer -DT

as 5x a1 chip chains detected then you may be able to tweak it to revive the board

if you have problems with your hardware i.e one/two or more boards not mining throuh the amt splash web gui thing do the following

log into your miner via putty or an hdmi cable direct into the pi. much easier through the putty method as you can scroll

then type killall cgminer it may or may not display something, if not it killed it, if it says no process it was already dead

next type cgminer -DT exactly as typed it will display a load of info then say no pool details specified

it will display something like a1 chip chain detected 8 chips. then loads of stuff and at the end of each chains info will say something like 8 chips detected 256 actice cores, or less as 256 is the max cores
this should repeat as many times as you have boards. i believe the first set of info is the furthest board from the ribon working left to right..

now if it saye a1 chip detected
no a1 chip
a1 chip detected
no a1 chip
a1 chip detected
and you have 3 boards happy days all 3 show
if on the other hand you have 5 boards and get the no a1 chip chain detected your board is not responding

if thats the case i dont think it can be fixed.

but if it say a1 chip chain detected and at the lower section says 8 chips detected less than 250 cores then its not functioning correctly but may be able to be fixed.

it will also output each chip per card so something like

chip1 32 cores
chip2 32 and so on. if a chip fails cores it will say

weak chip detected 10 cores threshold 32 or something very similar

i wish i had screen shots to hand but as my miner is at another persons house its hard to get.
legendary
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April 25, 2014, 09:38:04 AM


And how this affects your POOL graph?
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April 25, 2014, 09:33:46 AM

Remember doa hardware can not be fixed with software. However you can kill burn out functional hardware with software.

ironically loshia i fixed my doa hardware with software that changed the hardwares settings. doa being not mining but cgminer -DT showed the board there.
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April 25, 2014, 03:49:42 AM
everyday the dont reply to me in any form i'm just gonna keep filing complaints
already filed with ic3 and bbb


continuing to file complaints with the same agency is essentially the same as spamming Where's my refund 100 times on a site. You're complaint is in a file and it will be worked when it is gotten to. Until then creating needles extra paperwork for the agencies in question isn't going gain you any friends in that line of work.

You're best bet since you are endlessly impatient. Is to launch your own specific lawsuit. That way you don't have to wait on the class action. And you don't have to wait for AMT to give you the refund that I'm pretty sure they aren't going to send you. You obviously can't wait for your complaint to be recognized by the agencies you've contacted.


no i didnt file with the same agency i'm just going down the list on amt client site that one of the forum member made


Ah my mistake. I miss understood.

I just filed all of mine the same day when I filed.
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April 24, 2014, 08:55:27 PM
I know whatcha mean. The lil Atom PC I have for my TV mmedia is the the BTC core host (only takes 20 w) with a 60gb ssd in it. Shocked the hell otta me to see that massive chunk taken! Found out you can relocate the db so moved it to my 12TB NAS bucket. Works perfect.
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April 24, 2014, 08:49:19 PM
@AMT_miner technical question, what should be the baseline setting to run cgminer at?

Code:
cgminer --lowmem --bitmine-a1-options 16000:800000:8000 
this is the nominal setting. I presume this is the mode it is supposed to hash at?

Also for the Rosewill Hercules 1600W PSU you recommended what is the recommended hookup for those? I want to make sure this is all correct and according to your spec before moving forward. Ideally I would like to be able too get these working according to your recommendation. I will reach out be email as well to get the correct info. Thanks



16000:1000000:8000,  is the bitmine turbo setup so the above will be bitmines setup for nominal yes

but the amt machine runs 16000:750000:4000 as a1 option i believe in nominal and  16000:800000:8000 as turbo.

Josh told me in his office while taking possession of the demo miner, the first two settings are set the same with no difference in output, with the third setting, turbo, being the second. I believe one would have to look at the programming to see if such is the case. Hope that helps, all.
just to clarify what i said the amt miner runs with mode 0/1 16000:750000:4000 (i believe to be the power save and nominal setting in web gui) and mode 2 16000:800000:8000 as the "turbo" setting dunno if altering these settings to the bitmine a1 options of   16000:800000:8000 nominal or 16000:1000000:8000 turbo would make a difference except generate excess heat and blow it up!

my wonder is if you can "solo" mine on the machine or with it. would i need to install a wallet on the kernel sd? if so i wouldnt want to even try. linux is a pain. or could you somehow run byproxy through pc and router like a gateway?

I'd say PM ISAWHIM about the settings. He is/was part of the A1 chip dev thread and should know or point ya to someone from there who does...

On solo mining: DL the full Bitcoin core client onto a small pc with a lot of storage (currently the blockchain db is just under 19GB) and run it in server mode. Point the miner at the PC's ip address and hash away.

why thankyou very much sir!

i already have the bitcoin client of which i had it running on a clean hdd. untill it decided to clutter my main one and FILL it grrrr.

anywho was hoping to mine say hunter coin or something of which the miner puts a solo share size equal to diff so maybe zet..... see how it goes
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April 24, 2014, 08:46:03 PM
@AMT_miner technical question, what should be the baseline setting to run cgminer at?

Code:
cgminer --lowmem --bitmine-a1-options 16000:800000:8000 
this is the nominal setting. I presume this is the mode it is supposed to hash at?

Also for the Rosewill Hercules 1600W PSU you recommended what is the recommended hookup for those? I want to make sure this is all correct and according to your spec before moving forward. Ideally I would like to be able too get these working according to your recommendation. I will reach out be email as well to get the correct info. Thanks



16000:1000000:8000,  is the bitmine turbo setup so the above will be bitmines setup for nominal yes

but the amt machine runs 16000:750000:4000 as a1 option i believe in nominal and  16000:800000:8000 as turbo.

Josh told me in his office while taking possession of the demo miner, the first two settings are set the same with no difference in output, with the third setting, turbo, being the second. I believe one would have to look at the programming to see if such is the case. Hope that helps, all.
just to clarify what i said the amt miner runs with mode 0/1 16000:750000:4000 (i believe to be the power save and nominal setting in web gui) and mode 2 16000:800000:8000 as the "turbo" setting dunno if altering these settings to the bitmine a1 options of   16000:800000:8000 nominal or 16000:1000000:8000 turbo would make a difference except generate excess heat and blow it up!

my wonder is if you can "solo" mine on the machine or with it. would i need to install a wallet on the kernel sd? if so i wouldnt want to even try. linux is a pain. or could you somehow run byproxy through pc and router like a gateway?

I'd say PM ISAWHIM about the settings. He is/was part of the A1 chip dev thread and should know or point ya to someone from there who does...

On solo mining: DL the full Bitcoin core client onto a small pc with a lot of storage (currently the blockchain db is just under 19GB) and run it in server mode. Point the miner at the PC's ip address and hash away.
Oh, there is a bootstrap file of the blockchain current up to Jan of this year last I looked that reduces the time to get the whole blockchain to 'only' about a day or 2. The feed is purposely throttled to keep you bandwidth usage very low.
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April 24, 2014, 07:31:02 PM
Ok I did some looking at the files. AMT has its own folder in the /mineros. They are a bit different than the defaults bitmine uses. I will post more later. I am still looking at it all. And for the record looking not modifying anything.

That's where it should be. Josh mentioned why he did such, but I didn't retain the info for I was very tired, coupled with not being versed in such, nor cared, for my intent was to sell it, not mine with it like I convinced Josh I would. Considering the circumstances, he seem sincere with his efforts at the time.

FYI, FWIW, I promise to not trash talk on this thread, saving anything that needs to posted elsewhere. Ergo, in help mode otherwise opieum will kick my ass.  Grin

Nothing at you man. You posted info people could use and it was an opinion. My issue was with one person who posted NOTHING of use. Just basically loled at our circumstances. Anyway I am just moving on. Got better things to do than waste time with him.

But here are the settings I found in the AMT folder.
/mineros/AMT/a1.mode.0 16000:750000:2000 (powersave mode)
/mineros/AMT/a1.mode.1 16000:800000:4000 (nominal?)
/mineros/AMT/a1.mode.2 16000:750000:4000 (turbo?)

The settings are a bit weird. But these are the 3 settings. Not sure which is which. Only one I am sure of is powersave. I would guess a1.mode.2 is nominal but maybe someone from AMT can confirm that. I just want to understand what I am doing here to avoid frying hardware. Plus its useful for anyone else using bitmines settings. For those running cgminer from an ssh console instead of web interface.

Anyway I might have it sorted out. Hopefully.
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April 24, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
Ok I did some looking at the files. AMT has its own folder in the /mineros. They are a bit different than the defaults bitmine uses. I will post more later. I am still looking at it all. And for the record looking not modifying anything.
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April 24, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
@AMT_miner technical question, what should be the baseline setting to run cgminer at?

Code:
cgminer --lowmem --bitmine-a1-options 16000:800000:8000 
this is the nominal setting. I presume this is the mode it is supposed to hash at?

Also for the Rosewill Hercules 1600W PSU you recommended what is the recommended hookup for those? I want to make sure this is all correct and according to your spec before moving forward. Ideally I would like to be able too get these working according to your recommendation. I will reach out be email as well to get the correct info. Thanks



16000:1000000:8000,  is the bitmine turbo setup so the above will be bitmines setup for nominal yes

but the amt machine runs 16000:750000:4000 as a1 option i believe in nominal and  16000:800000:8000 as turbo.

Josh told me in his office while taking possession of the demo miner, the first two settings are set the same with no difference in output, with the third setting, turbo, being the second. I believe one would have to look at the programming to see if such is the case. Hope that helps, all.
just to clarify what i said the amt miner runs with mode 0/1 16000:750000:4000 (i believe to be the power save and nominal setting in web gui) and mode 2 16000:800000:8000 as the "turbo" setting dunno if altering these settings to the bitmine a1 options of   16000:800000:8000 nominal or 16000:1000000:8000 turbo would make a difference except generate excess heat and blow it up!

my wonder is if you can "solo" mine on the machine or with it. would i need to install a wallet on the kernel sd? if so i wouldnt want to even try. linux is a pain. or could you somehow run byproxy through pc and router like a gateway?
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April 24, 2014, 06:32:50 PM
@AMT_miner technical question, what should be the baseline setting to run cgminer at?

Code:
cgminer --lowmem --bitmine-a1-options 16000:800000:8000 
this is the nominal setting. I presume this is the mode it is supposed to hash at?

Also for the Rosewill Hercules 1600W PSU you recommended what is the recommended hookup for those? I want to make sure this is all correct and according to your spec before moving forward. Ideally I would like to be able too get these working according to your recommendation. I will reach out be email as well to get the correct info. Thanks



16000:1000000:8000,  is the bitmine turbo setup so the above will be bitmines setup for nominal yes

but the amt machine runs 16000:750000:4000 as a1 option i believe in nominal and  16000:800000:8000 as turbo.

Josh told me in his office while taking possession of the demo miner, the first two settings are set the same with no difference in output, with the third setting, turbo, being the second. I believe one would have to look at the programming to see if such is the case. Hope that helps, all.

The driver is open source and so is cgminer so I could take a look at that code. Thanks for the info. Gives me a starting point until I get a reply. I already emailed asking about what I can do to get this working. The LEPA was inconsistent on both machines. I know I have the juice on the circuits to run these things.
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April 24, 2014, 03:34:57 PM
@AMT_miner technical question, what should be the baseline setting to run cgminer at?

Code:
cgminer --lowmem --bitmine-a1-options 16000:800000:8000 
this is the nominal setting. I presume this is the mode it is supposed to hash at?

Also for the Rosewill Hercules 1600W PSU you recommended what is the recommended hookup for those? I want to make sure this is all correct and according to your spec before moving forward. Ideally I would like to be able too get these working according to your recommendation. I will reach out be email as well to get the correct info. Thanks



16000:1000000:8000,  is the bitmine turbo setup so the above will be bitmines setup for nominal yes

but the amt machine runs 16000:750000:4000 as a1 option i believe in nominal and  16000:800000:8000 as turbo.
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