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sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 01:56:06 PM
AMT, I'm amazed you still post here. Go crawl back into your hole Joshua, you fat piece of shit. Do what your lawyers suggest, and stay out of this forum.

Fucking loser.

Any plans on answering my comments to you? Guess not...your silence is damning. Pretty sure you are another paid shill. Funny how this "friend" of yours never seems to make an appearance on here. You are way to overly motivated....secret gay lover? Its gotta be something. Because you have no obvious business here and you really don't contribute shit to this discussion but cursing and instigating a virtual mob mentality. Go back and collect your check from BFL or Cointerra or whoever is paying you.

Talk about a paid shill, you already have openly discussed working for these scammers. Why would ANYONE need to be paid to call this out as a web of lies? You think the other companies, busy trying to work on their own problems, are worried about the worst failure of them all? This AMT business has been a train wreck, nobody needs to try and help it along.
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June 07, 2014, 01:55:28 PM
AMT, I'm amazed you still post here. Go crawl back into your hole Joshua, you fat piece of shit. Do what your lawyers suggest, and stay out of this forum.

Fucking loser.

What's the matter bud, powers that be aren't paying you anymore. Sirminesalot is the biggest joke on this forum, he's an Unpaid shill, a free worker you might say. At least Bruno earns a living doing this you halfwit.

Ha. OK man, so far your credibility is shot - so who's to believe anything you say? Not like I've ripped off this community to the tune of nearly a million dollars $$$.

Feel free to respond to any of my posts, instead of just deleting them. Oh wait, you need to grow a pair first.

None of what I said has been false, just calling you on your bullshit. You believe in your fantasy world that you are the victim in all of this.
newbie
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June 07, 2014, 01:48:37 PM
Pleading for money back and whatnot; ya it's annoying. Ya it's irritating. I don't like it any more than the rest of us. But I have attempted to call AMT at least 100 times. I have left countless messages and emails. I have posted here looking for answers, often to not find none, or be flatout ignored. Do I like complaining? Absolutely not. But besides asking for it, I can't think of anything else I can do. I just want my money back. I don't dven want a damn miner anymore. By the time anyone gets one, they'll be completely useless. It would seem as though I am in a room full of multimillionaires who could care less about a few thousand dollars. If that's the case, I will happily accept $6000 from any such person who is bothered by my attempts to reclaim my investment and I will never say another word on this forum. I'm sorry I have to subject others to it, but I've tried every non-public or "official" method of contact and I don't know what else I can do. I honestly just accepted it as gone for a while but my personal finances have suffered recently and I need all the money I can get so I have resumed trying to get what should be rightfully mine.
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June 07, 2014, 01:32:55 PM

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

Does anyone have a contact at the FTC they've been working with?   I was scammed out of 4 boxes (2 1.2's and 2 3.2's) and have received little response to dozens of email and phone calls.   I hired an attorney in PA and they told me to hold up until the Class Action is approved then we can decide to move forward as part of the CA, or separately if preferred.   


Do what you have to do. The class action would be the best to to wait for tho. It will give an accountable result. That said you are much better off waiting for the new hardware anyway. From experience I can tell you the current ones are a mess and are prone to massive breakdowns. What is your order number? Might be good to add you to the list of orders known so it can be tracked publicly and make all this accountable too.



My order is #847
hero member
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June 07, 2014, 01:14:45 PM
AMT, I'm amazed you still post here. Go crawl back into your hole Joshua, you fat piece of shit. Do what your lawyers suggest, and stay out of this forum.

Fucking loser.

Any plans on answering my comments to you? Guess not...your silence is damning. Pretty sure you are another paid shill. Funny how this "friend" of yours never seems to make an appearance on here. You are way to overly motivated....secret gay lover? Its gotta be something. Because you have no obvious business here and you really don't contribute shit to this discussion but cursing and instigating a virtual mob mentality. Go back and collect your check from BFL or Cointerra or whoever is paying you.
legendary
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June 07, 2014, 01:11:47 PM
He very well could be. Wasn't it one engineer that created bitcoin itself?

Possibly. But he took years to do it, it had some serious flaws, and that was just software. I'm sure you can attest to the fact that lining up and deliverying working hardware on a very short schedule is much harder.

I won't deny there are amazing engineers out there. Bitfury did one hell of a job. He's probably the best to have touched bitcoin so far. But not even Bitfury could deliver a complete miner with a 40nm ASIC in 6 months.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 12:12:36 PM
I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

RK_ is a bit pessimistic about the whole thing yes, but we are working for a solution where everyone will be satisfied. Most guys don't get it right the first the first time around, it takes tweaking and moderation. Look at those Bit9 guys, it took them a minute to get off the ground right. Had a great idea but before proof of concept no one gave a crap.

This is true I'm a pessimist by nature. I tend to eat everything fed to me, bullshit or caviar, with large heaping of salt. You get screwed one to many times and you get jaded, but I was jaded way before this whole thing.

Like I said, if this fixes the situation I'm just that much happier to have working hardware. I can forgive if things are made right. This looks to be the first legitimate attempt at that, but considering the manufacturing circumstances it looks like it was the earliest it was gonna happen with the set backs.

A logical assumption.
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June 07, 2014, 12:11:18 PM
I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

RK_ is a bit pessimistic about the whole thing yes, but we are working for a solution where everyone will be satisfied. Most guys don't get it right the first the first time around, it takes tweaking and moderation. Look at those Bit9 guys, it took them a minute to get off the ground right. Had a great idea but before proof of concept no one gave a crap.

Also coke zero has annoyed me from the get go so I'm just killing time messing with him.
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June 07, 2014, 12:08:55 PM


2, 3.2's..... You may be in this worse than the rest of us. Sorry to say it, but we've had no proof of somewhat of a 3.2 ever being in existance.

3.2 ?  You were scammed after the lawsuit was filled?

How is it legal that AMT continues to sell 2.4 and 3.2 TH/s systems on its website?

No, the 3.2 was available back in February.


It's beautiful like a unicorn but very rare perhaps even more rare than a unicorn.
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June 07, 2014, 12:05:34 PM
I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

RK_ is a bit pessimistic about the whole thing yes, but we are working for a solution where everyone will be satisfied. Most guys don't get it right the first the first time around, it takes tweaking and moderation. Look at those Bit9 guys, it took them a minute to get off the ground right. Had a great idea but before proof of concept no one gave a crap.

This is true I'm a pessimist by nature. I tend to eat everything fed to me, bullshit or caviar, with large heaping of salt. You get screwed one to many times and you get jaded, but I was jaded way before this whole thing.

Like I said, if this fixes the situation I'm just that much happier to have working hardware. I can forgive if things are made right. This looks to be the first legitimate attempt at that, but considering the manufacturing circumstances it looks like it was the earliest it was gonna happen with the set backs.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 12:03:22 PM


Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

RK_ is a bit pessimistic about the whole thing yes, but we are working for a solution where everyone will be satisfied. Most guys don't get it right the first the first time around, it takes tweaking and moderation. Look at those Bit9 guys, it took them a minute to get off the ground right. Had a great idea but before proof of concept no one gave a crap.

Most businesses communicate with their customers along the way, we have no clue what you are thinking or doing...You took our money and continue to tell us nothing, step back for a second and put yourself in our shoes.  How would feel, and what would you think?

Its not easy to make mountains out of hills. We've been responsive but due to the legalities of all this, outside settlements, even with a few can eventually screw over every other client as well. We think about this as a group and how to rectify the situation for everyone.
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June 07, 2014, 12:00:53 PM


Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

RK_ is a bit pessimistic about the whole thing yes, but we are working for a solution where everyone will be satisfied. Most guys don't get it right the first the first time around, it takes tweaking and moderation. Look at those Bit9 guys, it took them a minute to get off the ground right. Had a great idea but before proof of concept no one gave a crap.

Most businesses communicate with their customers along the way, we have no clue what you are thinking or doing...You took our money and continue to tell us nothing, step back for a second and put yourself in our shoes.  How would feel, and what would you think?
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June 07, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
What do you guys think about this Novello Technologies?

Novello appears to be one "engineer" who thinks he can create a world-leading full custom bitcoin ASIC miner from the ground up without any delays and without missing any specs. Ask yourself this question, "Is this single engineer, who won't post an actual resume or any work experience, better than all the other teams like HashFast, CoinTerra, BFL, Bitmine, BlackArrow, etc.?"

He very well could be. Wasn't it one engineer that created bitcoin itself?

Probably not.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 11:55:55 AM
What do you guys think about this Novello Technologies?
They sound like they at least have things planned well. The 40nm chip node is an excellent choice as it opens the door to using many many more foundries around the world to produce the chip keeping the cost way down.

Using 28nm is getting into the area of diminishing returns for power usage and cost per-die. At 20nm power usage and benefits go out the window for this market not to mention the number of foundries that can do it.

We think they do stand a chance. We like their dedicated approach to all this.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 11:51:54 AM
AMT, I'm amazed you still post here. Go crawl back into your hole Joshua, you fat piece of shit. Do what your lawyers suggest, and stay out of this forum.

Fucking loser.

What's the matter bud, powers that be aren't paying you anymore. Sirminesalot is the biggest joke on this forum, he's an Unpaid shill, a free worker you might say. At least Bruno earns a living doing this you halfwit.
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June 07, 2014, 11:49:16 AM
I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

RK_ is a bit pessimistic about the whole thing yes, but we are working for a solution where everyone will be satisfied. Most guys don't get it right the first the first time around, it takes tweaking and moderation. Look at those Bit9 guys, it took them a minute to get off the ground right. Had a great idea but before proof of concept no one gave a crap.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 11:45:04 AM
AMT, I'm amazed you still post here. Go crawl back into your hole Joshua, you fat piece of shit. Do what your lawyers suggest, and stay out of this forum.

Fucking loser.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 11:42:16 AM

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

Does anyone have a contact at the FTC they've been working with?   I was scammed out of 4 boxes (2 1.2's and 2 3.2's) and have received little response to dozens of email and phone calls.   I hired an attorney in PA and they told me to hold up until the Class Action is approved then we can decide to move forward as part of the CA, or separately if preferred.   





2, 3.2's..... You may be in this worse than the rest of us. Sorry to say it, but we've had no proof of somewhat of a 3.2 ever being in existance.

3.2 ?  You were scammed after the lawsuit was filled?

How is it legal that AMT continues to sell 2.4 and 3.2 TH/s systems on its website?

Actually all the products have been down for a week bud. Nobody is selling or advising, at least not AMT.
sr. member
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June 07, 2014, 11:40:20 AM
What do you guys think about this Novello Technologies?

Novello appears to be one "engineer" who thinks he can create a world-leading full custom bitcoin ASIC miner from the ground up without any delays and without missing any specs. Ask yourself this question, "Is this single engineer, who won't post an actual resume or any work experience, better than all the other teams like HashFast, CoinTerra, BFL, Bitmine, BlackArrow, etc.?"

He very well could be. Wasn't it one engineer that created bitcoin itself?
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June 07, 2014, 11:24:25 AM

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

Does anyone have a contact at the FTC they've been working with?   I was scammed out of 4 boxes (2 1.2's and 2 3.2's) and have received little response to dozens of email and phone calls.   I hired an attorney in PA and they told me to hold up until the Class Action is approved then we can decide to move forward as part of the CA, or separately if preferred.   


Do what you have to do. The class action would be the best to to wait for tho. It will give an accountable result. That said you are much better off waiting for the new hardware anyway. From experience I can tell you the current ones are a mess and are prone to massive breakdowns. What is your order number? Might be good to add you to the list of orders known so it can be tracked publicly and make all this accountable too.

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