Topic: New Official AMT Thread - page 63. (Read 149472 times)

No, the 3.2 was available back in February.

Yea, probably just a dream they had one night..then added to their product list online.     Many conversations later i was assured i would have everything by a certain date, they were pretty convincing.

3.2 ?  You were scammed after the lawsuit was filled?

How is it legal that AMT continues to sell 2.4 and 3.2 TH/s systems on its website?

2, 3.2's..... You may be in this worse than the rest of us. Sorry to say it, but we've had no proof of somewhat of a 3.2 ever being in existance.

They sound like they at least have things planned well. The 40nm chip node is an excellent choice as it opens the door to using many many more foundries around the world to produce the chip keeping the cost way down.

Using 28nm is getting into the area of diminishing returns for power usage and cost per-die. At 20nm power usage and benefits go out the window for this market not to mention the number of foundries that can do it.

What does his father, and him being a Bulgarian Jew or a Mason have to do with any of this? Just seems like a way to make this a very easy way to SEO his name and smear it. That info has absolutely NOTHING to do with the many other issues going on. His business degree where he went to college is irrelevant....Bill Gates dropped out of college. Steve Jobs dropped out. I am not saying he is like either of those notable people, BUT the college thing is just irrelevant. People can be successful without the college degree (where did you go to college BTW?). I don't know how many MBA's I have worked with who are complete morons. I have interviewed people with Stanford and MIT degrees that have book smarts but no other skills. Again you are smearing him based on irrelevant information.....stick to the actionable facts we have now if you are hellbent on doing so. We have broken miners, undelivered hardware....those are things that make more sense, which btw they are in process of rectifying. Instead you seem to optimize his personal information to smear him via google. Its your posts that show up.....you and sirminesalot....his lame ass excuse was..a "friend" (only way someone is that motivated is if that friend is paying you or giving you sexual favors) plus again...friend can speak for themselves too.... you too are an overly motivated person to do what you have done.....so who is paying you? This is highly suspicious because you very conveniently format things for that. Its too much motivation to believe you do this out of some sense of altruism. Too much motivation to believe this is not financially motivated in some way. You also appear to have the google-fu skills to look up the information...resourceful and way too motivated. Someone who has alot of experience with this and time....so unless you are Bruce Wayne and are sitting atop a shitheap of money and time, I am pretty sure you are a paid shill...again the pieces add up too well, you might want to prove how you are not a paid shill, but honestly I don't think you can.

Those of us who actually got screwed here are paying the price for you guys trashing them with your conveniently SEO formatted posts. I didn't catch it before but its become glaringly obvious. If the company goes into receivership or he goes to jail the middlemen and other creditors get first dibs...we get the crumbs off the table after that. We get shit....I and a few others are working to make sure this issue is solved in the background. Everyone who is bitching here has something they lost here....at one point I was not sure who to believe.....but I am now just believing the facts. Fact is you have no obvious motive to be here. YOu did not order a miner from AMT...from day1 you started you pretty much have been on them. So why are you REALLY here? I am not defending them at all just....I and everyone else am fully aware they fucked up. They also know they have alot to lose here on alot of levels. But it does not help having someone instigate a virtual lynch mob....we the customers are trying to get results by various means. You and sirminesalot (who I suspect are paid by someone) have no business being here. loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here. Let the customers handle this. We are already handling it and are starting to see results. We get pissed off when AMT drops the communication ball....so we react and then they react. Ebb and flow of things right now. They know the consequences if they dont address this and we know it. No sense in beating the dead horse. Alternately you have added nothing but racism and hate by implying that because he is a Bulgarian masonic Jew there is something wrong with that. Who the fuck cares!? He could be a Hari Krishna or Mormon or anything else....good people bad people exist in ALL faiths and races and even those without faith can be good/bad. Your distinction is a false one and misleading and insulting to people of those groups.

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Does anyone have a contact at the FTC they've been working with?   I was scammed out of 4 boxes (2 1.2's and 2 3.2's) and have received little response to dozens of email and phone calls.   I hired an attorney in PA and they told me to hold up until the Class Action is approved then we can decide to move forward as part of the CA, or separately if preferred.   

Interesting that I keep seeing new users posting here that have never have never posted before.

All of them waiting for their machine.

I wonder how many miners has AMT really failed to deliver?  I've counted 43 miners never received and 11 received of mostly non-working status.   

Is there more?

Not gonna happen, you best bet was to file with the FTC. I mean begging for the money back isn't going to persuade them. It might make them giggle but they think they've legitimately earned the money you've paid them regardless of your not receiving anything. The only way you'd get cash is to hold their hand all the way to the bank or under their mattress or wherever they keep their money. Unless you are there in person and with some type of law enforcement I don't believe you'll see a dime.


Personally I'd take my money back and wash my hands of it, but that doesn't seem like something they are willing to offer so I'm not going to beg. I'm just going to wait, one way or another something will happen.

I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

...and is on record of not wanting to build a website, honestly believing that a long prospectus on one forum linked from their crowdfunding effort should've suffice. (I wish I was making this up)

I agree that the odds really aren't in favor of Novello succeeding.   HashFast and Cointerra had pretty decent engineers but still stumbled badly.

I seriously doubt that they can raise the money.  Maybe last year this time you could, but not this year where you have Bitmain, Spondoolies and Cointerra shipping like mad.  In fact if you look at the price per GH/s ... it isn't even competitive with what is already out there.   

I don't know why AMT bothers to post it here.  The Novello proposal is so far out in the future that is has no value to anyone now.  

All it does say is that mining is a very difficult activity and it is going to become even more difficult.

The price of ASIC chips are going to crash due to the glut so the game will only be worth it for the assemblers (usually chinese)  that can do it cheaply with economies of scale.   The whole idea of AMT of getting chips from a Europe and having the boards assembled here doesn't work.  He should have the boards built in China where there's plenty of folks on the cheap to inspect and test the boards.   Likely AMT had no idea of how much work is needed to test working systems.

Anyway,  AMT has a disaster in its hands.  June 16th is coming very quickly so we'll see then what they're response will be.  My recommendation for AMT though has always been, refund what you can to your customers and then trying paying of the remainder over time.   Trying to be successful in this mining business is one way to dig a deeper hole.

Novello appears to be one "engineer" who thinks he can create a world-leading full custom bitcoin ASIC miner from the ground up without any delays and without missing any specs. Ask yourself this question, "Is this single engineer, who won't post an actual resume or any work experience, better than all the other teams like HashFast, CoinTerra, BFL, Bitmine, BlackArrow, etc.?"

Yeah  I am brainless  
And I am eager to see you the good to rate AMT
Ask joe to rate them also. But any way folks are ok to send more money to josh so no one cares about your raitings at the end right?
By the way Bick are you getting a cut from stolen Money?
AMT Are STILL your partners correct?
Just make sure joe gets his share too
Give me your word please

Ya think?

LOL.

Same like josh. He is writing a lot
I am leving boys ....
By the way do amt have enough issues before asking you what do you think about Novello?
And who gives a fuck about it you have miners and refunds to peruse
Good luck and hurry up give all what was left from Amt scam to Novello   and fill Josh pocket again
 
Wish you luck boys
Josh take their money once again Josh I am with you bud go and nail them
Actually as I see things you are not needing my consulting services anymore. There are a plenty of folks who will spent money on your name. Just be straight and start over again. There is no need to hide behind Novello 

loshia... I think you should leave this thread.

you are no help.  you are an amateur has never been involved in manufacturing.... so get lost.

never heard of Novello, but at least they take the effort to write a long prospectus.

If it's him and he makes it work, best of luck but that all remain to be seen.