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June 05, 2014, 03:02:10 PM
If you guys have to quote Sirminesalot of any of the shills, please remove the names that the puts in his posts, because his sole purpose is to do that for optimization and thats why he writes our names and full company names or abbreviations in every single post.

Thanks.
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June 05, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Yea you kinda are being one today....because you can't read what I wrote correctly.....they NEED TO WORK ON IT. Yes I agree with that part....And I agree you are acting like a shmuck today. I like you man.....but today you kinda been on one. You like all of us have a right to be pissed off. But take some time to think before you type (this goes for you too AMT). Just saying irrational typing or hitting send to soon never works out. (I wrote "Ride the hore victory" instead of horse earlier which is a funny typo that I edited, but coulda gone a whole other way OR avoided alltogether if I had juts taken the time to think and edit.) Just take a break think carefully and post. We are ALL pissed but we gotta use our heads to think how we can all come out of this in a good spot vs flaming and trolling.

There are alot of questions they really should not answer for a number of reasons and there are relevant questions they SHOULD be answering that they are not. Reality is the legal thing puts them in the crosshairs and they need to be more careful over how they handle things. Not like deleting these posts is gonna make them truly go away anyway.
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June 05, 2014, 02:58:53 PM
legendary
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June 05, 2014, 02:46:17 PM
at least if it was such a problem, why charge someone over and over again and leave them with nothing to show for it. And legally until figuring out the situation and all the moving parts involved and questioning if it was our own fault and a lot, we didnt feel need to mention this situation or effect their reputation. But when the hopped on the forum, and started all that nonsense, it was like.. really..

This is another reason for no one to go after that product. The legality of trying to buy them is dubious at best. Plus with the boards I received I'm not sure you want what they'd be selling, unless they are proven to be working.

Well technically they are our materials, and if you really wanted to buy the you could purchase them from us. But we wouldn't sell them to you, cause they have the wrong the values. Now if you get new caps, and a few other key components the extra is worth is it yes.

How is it your materials when you haven't paid for them?

In fact, how are the miners you shipped to customers even yours when you didn't pay IMET for them?   Did you sell stolen goods?

And we're back to just deleted your posts cause your an investigative shmuck.

Well,  we would like to know who owns what.  IMET says you didn't pay.  Didn't pay for the items that they have or also for items that they already delivered?  

I want to know if we can acquire all those parts from IMET.

Also... is it good practice to insult your customer?

Look, I've tried to be reasonable here.

* I asked you for a missing part (i.e. backplane) that you never delivered.
* I asked you for A1 chips in lieu of a working system... you never agreed.
* I asked you a refund of 6 BTC ... less than what I paid in USD... you never accepted.

I am giving you every opportunity to get out of a bad deal, but you continue to refuse the offers.




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June 05, 2014, 02:43:33 PM
at least if it was such a problem, why charge someone over and over again and leave them with nothing to show for it. And legally until figuring out the situation and all the moving parts involved and questioning if it was our own fault and a lot, we didnt feel need to mention this situation or effect their reputation. But when the hopped on the forum, and started all that nonsense, it was like.. really..

This is another reason for no one to go after that product. The legality of trying to buy them is dubious at best. Plus with the boards I received I'm not sure you want what they'd be selling, unless they are proven to be working.

Well technically they are our materials, and if you really wanted to buy the you could purchase them from us. But we wouldn't sell them to you, cause they have the wrong the values. Now if you get new caps, and a few other key components the extra is worth is it yes.

How is it your materials when you haven't paid for them?

In fact, how are the miners you shipped to customers even yours when you didn't pay IMET for them?   Did you sell stolen goods?

And we're back to just deleted your posts cause your an instigating  shmuck.
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June 05, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
at least if it was such a problem, why charge someone over and over again and leave them with nothing to show for it. And legally until figuring out the situation and all the moving parts involved and questioning if it was our own fault and a lot, we didnt feel need to mention this situation or effect their reputation. But when the hopped on the forum, and started all that nonsense, it was like.. really..

This is another reason for no one to go after that product. The legality of trying to buy them is dubious at best. Plus with the boards I received I'm not sure you want what they'd be selling, unless they are proven to be working.

Well technically they are our materials, and if you really wanted to buy the you could purchase them from us. But we wouldn't sell them to you, cause they have the wrong the values. Now if you get new caps, and a few other key components the extra is worth is it yes.
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June 05, 2014, 02:38:14 PM
I don't see how buying IMET boards would make any sense, the cards are very big, the power requirements are high. If they were more efficient boards I would surely be chasing IMET down for a bargain. Money is no problem for me to get (or use), but the deal have a good potential to get back the initial investment quickly and safely.  I don't see the value, so as they say on shark tank, I'm out.

Also at IMET's production rate, or adjusted rate, and then re-adjust, and then rework cost, and the re-re-re-work cost, its not profitable. Lets just say almost a quarter of million went to IMET and we got through a third of the production before we walked way.

Also just an FYI to everyone interested, the amount in question is 40k to 65K, (25k which was mysteriously added on the day that we decided to part way with IMET btw). Also, if they simply returned which they have remaining, it would more than fulfill the suggested remaining funds at question.

The real question is how does the CEO of this very successful SMD company have time to write on a public forum and what are his intentions going forward.


What is the username of this CEO of SMD? I would surely not entertain anything that was not 100% working. I don't know who's fault was what, but it looks too messy an inefficient to get involved in. I question why wasn't there QA testing by AMT before producing the boards? Maybe there was, I don't know...

The email [email protected] - stands for Tom. And it was a 10-20% working type of situation. And in a nutshell, they were tested to a degree. Some worked and some didnt, some batches came out with a higher percentage and some didnt. It had to do with several factors that we've been figuring out over the last month since we left IMET. Maybe they have a solution to fixing a problem which in our opinion should never have existed. Or at least if it was such a problem, why charge someone over and over again and leave them with nothing to show for it. And legally until figuring out the situation and all the moving parts involved and questioning if it was our own fault or not, we didn't feel need to mention this situation or effect their reputation. But when the hopped on the forum, and started all that nonsense, it was like.. really..

Dude... you had a smear campaign against IMET long before they hopped onto this forum!

Also, what's the excuse for sending a check from an account that was closed previously?  How do you respond to that allegation?
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June 05, 2014, 02:37:03 PM
I may have said the 10th, but according to others it's mid-month or the 16th. But even so, why is AMT waiting, why not just call the lawyer and spill the beans on what they are going to do for us now? I live in North NJ, about an hour and 15 from IMET. I am sure IMET is not just going to give me some free parts.

Call IMET and ask to buy some boards for cost. IMET might love to get some money out of this disaster.

That actually might not be a terrible idea if we know the stuff works. The problem is its more money to piss away.....ROI and all that as has been stated. But not a terrible idea. Last resort situation....

As I understand it,  cost for IMET are just the components minus the A1 asic chips.  If that is the case and assuming they work as IMET has claimed, then it is certainly a deal.   

Go with that Carlos, hopefully it gets you somewhere. Wish you all the best of luck bud.


Sad state of affairs when AMT is taunting its clients.

Look dude, we are trying to make the best deal out of the horrid hand you dealt us.

I'm just hoping that the manufacturer you screwed would be more than willing to get the junk you sent us working.

Remember that junk you sent me?  Yes,  the stuff that did not include a back plane?

Look dude,

We know your upset, and empathize with your situation, but in all fairness we can treat you any more special than other clients. From day one you wanted a refund. You filed a complaint with Delaware consumer affairs for a refund. When we shipped you your miner, there was something wrong with etc.

Same thing with (Mpark) who is a bit more rational these days, but he should be more pissed off than you because he tried to return his miner and couldn't even do that.

Its a shitty hand we all got dealt, not just you. You feel that you have lost 6k, we feel that we have lost about 600k, maybe more than that. But we also feel we can and will turn this around. Your bickering on a daily basis and rallying people up doesn't help. And running to our suppliers/partners/associates and asking them questions wont help either, because they want us to succeed so we keep using their services.

Carlos just calm down, we're posting an RMA procedure shortly, probably tomorrow.

Explain to me how you lost 600k?  You lost your customer's 600k!

Your suppliers and partners are the key to us getting something that works.  

You shipped me busted and missing parts.  You said months ago that you would ship missing parts.  Never happened.

So I have no recourse to ask your suppliers for assistance.

Meanwhile,  I suggest you quit this business and focus instead on how to pay what you owe us customers.

We suggest that you stop giving your suggestions.
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June 05, 2014, 02:36:53 PM
at least if it was such a problem, why charge someone over and over again and leave them with nothing to show for it. And legally until figuring out the situation and all the moving parts involved and questioning if it was our own fault and a lot, we didnt feel need to mention this situation or effect their reputation. But when the hopped on the forum, and started all that nonsense, it was like.. really..

This is another reason for no one to go after that product. The legality of trying to buy them is dubious at best. Plus with the boards I received I'm not sure you want what they'd be selling, unless they are proven to be working.
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June 05, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
I'm upset no-one calls me by my first name I feel left out.

No stern comments for me just posts that disappear into the shadows.

Anyway I don't know why people are treating the 16th like it's the date of a settlement. I mean sure it could be if AMT were so inclined, but I'm not sure they are.  This is just for them to file a response, and then it just moves to the next thing. The judicial system is slows as fuck. One reason I hate it as a means of settling things.

I'd made suggestions of multiple things that I would have considered as making me whole a long time ago, but they didn't seem concerned with settling then either.

I'm just expecting a long knock down drag out fight. I mean I assume craig's attorney's assume they will win or it wasn't worth them taking the case. But by the time it's all said and done what's left?

It wont be a long knock down drag out fight, we wont let it get that far.
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June 05, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
I may have said the 10th, but according to others it's mid-month or the 16th. But even so, why is AMT waiting, why not just call the lawyer and spill the beans on what they are going to do for us now? I live in North NJ, about an hour and 15 from IMET. I am sure IMET is not just going to give me some free parts.

Call IMET and ask to buy some boards for cost. IMET might love to get some money out of this disaster.

That actually might not be a terrible idea if we know the stuff works. The problem is its more money to piss away.....ROI and all that as has been stated. But not a terrible idea. Last resort situation....

As I understand it,  cost for IMET are just the components minus the A1 asic chips.  If that is the case and assuming they work as IMET has claimed, then it is certainly a deal.   

Go with that Carlos, hopefully it gets you somewhere. Wish you all the best of luck bud.


Sad state of affairs when AMT is taunting its clients.

Look dude, we are trying to make the best deal out of the horrid hand you dealt us.

I'm just hoping that the manufacturer you screwed would be more than willing to get the junk you sent us working.

Remember that junk you sent me?  Yes,  the stuff that did not include a back plane?

Look dude,

We know your upset, and empathize with your situation, but in all fairness we can treat you any more special than other clients. From day one you wanted a refund. You filed a complaint with Delaware consumer affairs for a refund. When we shipped you your miner, there was something wrong with etc.

Same thing with (Mpark) who is a bit more rational these days, but he should be more pissed off than you because he tried to return his miner and couldn't even do that.

Its a shitty hand we all got dealt, not just you. You feel that you have lost 6k, we feel that we have lost about 600k, maybe more than that. But we also feel we can and will turn this around. Your bickering on a daily basis and rallying people up doesn't help. And running to our suppliers/partners/associates and asking them questions wont help either, because they want us to succeed so we keep using their services.

Carlos just calm down, we're posting an RMA procedure shortly, probably tomorrow.

Explain to me how you lost 600k?  You lost your customer's 600k!

Your suppliers and partners are the key to us getting something that works.  

You shipped me busted and missing parts.  You said months ago that you would ship missing parts.  Never happened.

So I have no recourse to ask your suppliers for assistance.

Meanwhile,  I suggest you quit this business and focus instead on how to pay what you owe us customers.
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June 05, 2014, 02:26:45 PM
I'm upset no-one calls me by my first name I feel left out.

No stern comments for me just posts that disappear into the shadows.

Anyway I don't know why people are treating the 16th like it's the date of a settlement. I mean sure it could be if AMT were so inclined, but I'm not sure they are.  This is just for them to file a response, and then it just moves to the next thing. The judicial system is slows as fuck. One reason I hate it as a means of settling things.

I'd made suggestions of multiple things that I would have considered as making me whole a long time ago, but they didn't seem concerned with settling then either.

I'm just expecting a long knock down drag out fight. I mean I assume craig's attorney's assume they will win or it wasn't worth them taking the case. But by the time it's all said and done what's left?
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June 05, 2014, 02:25:50 PM
I don't see how buying IMET boards would make any sense, the cards are very big, the power requirements are high. If they were more efficient boards I would surely be chasing IMET down for a bargain. Money is no problem for me to get (or use), but the deal have a good potential to get back the initial investment quickly and safely.  I don't see the value, so as they say on shark tank, I'm out.

Also at IMET's production rate, or adjusted rate, and then re-adjust, and then rework cost, and the re-re-re-work cost, its not profitable. Lets just say almost a quarter of million went to IMET and we got through a third of the production before we walked way.

Also just an FYI to everyone interested, the amount in question is 40k to 65K, (25k which was mysteriously added on the day that we decided to part way with IMET btw). Also, if they simply returned which they have remaining, it would more than fulfill the suggested remaining funds at question.

The real question is how does the CEO of this very successful SMD company have time to write on a public forum and what are his intentions going forward.


What is the username of this CEO of SMD? I would surely not entertain anything that was not 100% working. I don't know who's fault was what, but it looks too messy an inefficient to get involved in. I question why wasn't there QA testing by AMT before producing the boards? Maybe there was, I don't know...

The email [email protected] - stands for Tom. And it was a 10-20% working type of situation. And in a nutshell, they were tested to a degree. Some worked and some didnt, some batches came out with a higher percentage and some didnt. It had to do with several factors that we've been figuring out over the last month since we left IMET. Maybe they have a solution to fixing a problem which in our opinion should never have existed. Or at least if it was such a problem, why charge someone over and over again and leave them with nothing to show for it. And legally until figuring out the situation and all the moving parts involved and questioning if it was our own fault or not, we didn't feel need to mention this situation or effect their reputation. But when the hopped on the forum, and started all that nonsense, it was like.. really..

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June 05, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
I may have said the 10th, but according to others it's mid-month or the 16th. But even so, why is AMT waiting, why not just call the lawyer and spill the beans on what they are going to do for us now? I live in North NJ, about an hour and 15 from IMET. I am sure IMET is not just going to give me some free parts.

Call IMET and ask to buy some boards for cost. IMET might love to get some money out of this disaster.

That actually might not be a terrible idea if we know the stuff works. The problem is its more money to piss away.....ROI and all that as has been stated. But not a terrible idea. Last resort situation....

As I understand it,  cost for IMET are just the components minus the A1 asic chips.  If that is the case and assuming they work as IMET has claimed, then it is certainly a deal.   

Go with that Carlos, hopefully it gets you somewhere. Wish you all the best of luck bud.


Sad state of affairs when AMT is taunting its clients.

Look dude, we are trying to make the best deal out of the horrid hand you dealt us.

I'm just hoping that the manufacturer you screwed would be more than willing to get the junk you sent us working.

Remember that junk you sent me?  Yes,  the stuff that did not include a back plane?

Look dude,

We know your upset, and empathize with your situation, but in all fairness we can treat you any more special than other clients. From day one you wanted a refund. You filed a complaint with Delaware consumer affairs for a refund. When we shipped you your miner, there was something wrong with etc.

Same thing with (Mpark) who is a bit more rational these days, but he should be more pissed off than you because he tried to return his miner and couldn't even do that.

Its a shitty hand we all got dealt, not just you. You feel that you have lost 6k, we feel that we have lost about 600k, maybe more than that. But we also feel we can and will turn this around. Your bickering on a daily basis and rallying people up doesn't help. And running to our suppliers/partners/associates and asking them questions wont help either, because they want us to succeed so we keep using their services.

Carlos just calm down, we're posting an RMA procedure shortly, probably tomorrow.


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June 05, 2014, 02:11:20 PM
I don't see how buying IMET boards would make any sense, the cards are very big, the power requirements are high. If they were more efficient boards I would surely be chasing IMET down for a bargain. Money is no problem for me to get (or use), but the deal have a good potential to get back the initial investment quickly and safely.  I don't see the value, so as they say on shark tank, I'm out.

Also at IMET's production rate, or adjusted rate, and then re-adjust, and then rework cost, and the re-re-re-work cost, its not profitable. Lets just say almost a quarter of million went to IMET and we got through a third of the production before we walked way.

Also just an FYI to everyone interested, the amount in question is 40k to 65K, (25k which was mysteriously added on the day that we decided to part way with IMET btw). Also, if they simply returned our supplies, components, caps, etc, which they have remaining, it would more than fulfill the suggested remaining funds at question. Just the NXP and Linear parts alone equal to 30K+ some.

The real question is how does the CEO of this very successful SMD company have time to write on a public forum and what are his intentions going forward.

Wow!  There indeed is a big business opportunity here!

As I understand, IMET purchased the parts (includes capacitors, resistor, voltage regulators, etc) that AMT has yet to pay for.   They are at a loss here.

So, with 900 boards ordered, there at least 600 boards sitting in IMET's warehouse.   How much of that are A1 asic chips?  Let's say that 1/2 of the remaining are A1, then IMET is sitting on 12,000 A1 chips!

Well the CEO of a SMD company goes on a public forum when you are defaming his company in public.



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June 05, 2014, 02:10:31 PM
I may have said the 10th, but according to others it's mid-month or the 16th. But even so, why is AMT waiting, why not just call the lawyer and spill the beans on what they are going to do for us now? I live in North NJ, about an hour and 15 from IMET. I am sure IMET is not just going to give me some free parts.

Call IMET and ask to buy some boards for cost. IMET might love to get some money out of this disaster.

That actually might not be a terrible idea if we know the stuff works. The problem is its more money to piss away.....ROI and all that as has been stated. But not a terrible idea. Last resort situation....

As I understand it,  cost for IMET are just the components minus the A1 asic chips.  If that is the case and assuming they work as IMET has claimed, then it is certainly a deal.   

Go with that Carlos, hopefully it gets you somewhere. Wish you all the best of luck bud.


Sad state of affairs when AMT is taunting its clients.

Look dude, we are trying to make the best deal out of the horrid hand you dealt us.

I'm just hoping that the manufacturer you screwed would be more than willing to get the junk you sent us working.

Remember that junk you sent me?  Yes,  the stuff that did not include a back plane?
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June 05, 2014, 02:08:29 PM
I don't see how buying IMET boards would make any sense, the cards are very big, the power requirements are high. If they were more efficient boards I would surely be chasing IMET down for a bargain. Money is no problem for me to get (or use), but the deal have a good potential to get back the initial investment quickly and safely.  I don't see the value, so as they say on shark tank, I'm out.

Also at IMET's production rate, or adjusted rate, and then re-adjust, and then rework cost, and the re-re-re-work cost, its not profitable. Lets just say almost a quarter of million went to IMET and we got through a third of the production before we walked way.

Also just an FYI to everyone interested, the amount in question is 40k to 65K, (25k which was mysteriously added on the day that we decided to part way with IMET btw). Also, if they simply returned our supplies, components, caps, etc, which they have remaining, it would more than fulfill the suggested remaining funds at question. Just the NXP and Linear parts alone equal to 30K+ some.

The real question is how does the CEO of this very successful SMD company have time to write on a public forum and what are his intentions going forward.
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June 05, 2014, 01:57:47 PM
I don't see how buying IMET boards would make any sense, the cards are very big, the power requirements are high. If they were more efficient boards I would surely be chasing IMET down for a bargain. Money is no problem for me to get (or use), but the deal have a good potential to get back the initial investment quickly and safely.  I don't see the value, so as they say on shark tank, I'm out.
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Amazed you guys think this fat retard is going to solve any of this shit.

I say let the courts decide who's at fault here. My bet is Joshy boy will be crying in a jail cell soon enough.
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