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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on July 21, 2023, 02:02:16 AM

But I still fear I might make mistakes or someone may criticize me. That's why I don't have any activities or merits in my account.

Yes, your observation is accurate, but all you need to do is read each and every one of this forum's rules and regulations and keep your attention on the reason you came here in the first place, which is to learn about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. This does not preclude you from participating on the forum as a novice, though. I think you could contribute valuable knowledge, even if it's unrelated to the forum, and perhaps you've been the victim of some scam attempts. You can also bring something similar, and your post will be taken into consideration; nobody will judge the action or its qualities. Don't stress over that. They will appear eventually; you are only beginning.

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I need real time performance right? So what should I do now.

Yes, your performance is what will provide you the privileges and participation you believe you lack, thus it will be better if you put in more effort and educate yourself on the forum and other things that must be done there in order to contribute and perform effectively here.

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But observing won't even get me anywhere.

Your best chance of succeeding on the forum is to pay attention to what the senior members have contributed. You will be able to contribute when you read what other senior members have said on the forum. You will gain more experience thanks to what they say than you.

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I get the point "learn before you try to teach others". That's why I have been observing many threads many members many topic posts etc for many days. But I still fear I might make mistakes or someone may criticize me. That's why I don't have any activities or merits in my account. But observing won't even get me anywhere. I need real time performance right? So what should I do now. It would be much help if anyone guided me so that one day I may also contribute to this community.

I am in no position to advice anyone. But I need to have some experience or base knowledge to be able to do that.

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How can you teach what you don't know?
I also got a point where you mentioned that some of the newbies aren't new to crypto but that doesn't mean that they have more edge over some reputable members of the forum and I believe some newbies also have more cryptocurrency knowledge than some legendary members on here but the truth be told that people on here have no value for newbie accounts because they believe the newbie account has nothing to lose and people wouldn't want to to deal with such a person.

I stand with you @Giftedman and I think people especially newbies to try to grow their accounts and status on the forum before want to Introduce what so ever to the community.

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Newbies should never jump teaching their co-newbies when in reality, they also need to be taught at first. Instead, they should focus on acquiring sufficient knowledge about cryptocurrency and how it’s market moves. In the end, newbies will never be forever newbies. As they increase their knowledge and skills, they also level up with their position. Maybe that could be the best time to teach, as long as they have those valuable things to share to those who are interested to learn.

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Quote from: reagansimms on July 19, 2023, 12:44:55 AM

A high Rank account does not guarantee more knowledge than an account that has two activities, someone who controls a Legendary account with 1000 Airdrop merit is not necessarily better than a Newbie who just joined the forum. Advice can come from anyone, as long as the advice has an educational nature and is useful for other members I think it can be justified even if the one giving advice is an account that has two activities.
A person's knowledge cannot be measured by account ratings, perhaps they already had a lot of knowledge before finding their way to forums. As long as it doesn't violate the forum rules and doesn't harm other members, newbies may advise people in the forum.

That's right, because we do not know who is behind the account and maybe he is quite broad -minded in his field, ranking does not have to be a concern, but ranking only as a measure that he is valued in contributing with forums, knowledge can come from anywhere , like the falling apples, as well as a newbe in this forum, you have the right to give advice on users who have a higher rank than it, there is no rules that the newbie cannot do that, but he only needs to learn From what he doesn't know like the forum rules for example.

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Quote from: Qiubell5 on July 18, 2023, 06:32:07 PM

I as a newbie here feel the OP's suggestion is true. Others have better experience and knowledge than I do. And I must continue to learn and correct my mistakes. Teaching something to others about something that is not known by oneself, is not good. Because the impression is like conveying something without knowledge.

Just observing and learning from experienced members of the forum is a way to learn fast, learning from experienced members will give you good reputation in the forum. When beginners claim to know too well they end up making mistakes that are very regrettable, beginners just need to learn as to reduce the rate of mistakes they will encounter. Beginners must learn and gain good knowledge which they can give out to other members of the forum, it is reasonable to share something well known than to give out something with no meaning.

It might be an alternative learning that knows the forum faster, but even though he is only a newbie, as I say that we don't know who is behind the account, maybe he has a lot of experience in his field, even though the crypto industry does not really understand, while he is Having a logical and strong argument in other fields of discussion that he has experience and knowledge, he deserves to maintain it, but if he does not really understand, I think observing and learning how people who have a higher rank than him are the right decisions, rather than talking Instead of what he has no understanding of what he is talking about.

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Quote from: Qiubell5 on July 18, 2023, 06:32:07 PM

I as a newbie here feel the OP's suggestion is true. Others have better experience and knowledge than I do. And I must continue to learn and correct my mistakes. Teaching something to others about something that is not known by oneself, is not good. Because the impression is like conveying something without knowledge.

Just observing and learning from experienced members of the forum is a way to learn fast, learning from experienced members will give you good reputation in the forum. When beginners claim to know too well they end up making mistakes that are very regrettable, beginners just need to learn as to reduce the rate of mistakes they will encounter. Beginners must learn and gain good knowledge which they can give out to other members of the forum, it is reasonable to share something well known than to give out something with no meaning.

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A high Rank account does not guarantee more knowledge than an account that has two activities, someone who controls a Legendary account with 1000 Airdrop merit is not necessarily better than a Newbie who just joined the forum. Advice can come from anyone, as long as the advice has an educational nature and is useful for other members I think it can be justified even if the one giving advice is an account that has two activities.
A person's knowledge cannot be measured by account ratings, perhaps they already had a lot of knowledge before finding their way to forums. As long as it doesn't violate the forum rules and doesn't harm other members, newbies may advise people in the forum.

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I as a newbie here feel the OP's suggestion is true. Others have better experience and knowledge than I do. And I must continue to learn and correct my mistakes. Teaching something to others about something that is not known by oneself, is not good. Because the impression is like conveying something without knowledge.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on June 16, 2023, 11:23:18 AM

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I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.

Well, it's funny, but it's true. I've seen newbies acting like they are experts here where they are just advising people out of nowhere.
On the other hand, I think this topic is pretty subjective (at least for me).

What if that newbie-ranked user has been lurking in this forum for years already before registering? We can still read things including rules here even though we aren't registering an account right?
What if that newbie-ranked user has been involved with cryptocurrency for let's say 5 years already? For 5 years, for sure he might know the basics of investing, and maybe the complex things about crypto.

Some might agree that newbies shouldn't teaching higher ranked users here, and that's true, but I still believe that ranks here aren't a basis whether you should share or advice people or not. Like I said, there might be some newbie ranked users out there who knows everything about crypto. Though in general, newbies really don't know anything about crypto, but they're the ones who act like they know everything which is kind of funny, and disappointing at the same time.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 14, 2023, 06:29:02 PM

Quote from: Ayebabara on July 14, 2023, 05:34:46 PM

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

If it is about forum, I agree that newbies shouldn't teach others because they actually have just started to know forum. When they teach others, they may lose their focus or share something they don't really understand. Other people can misunderstand it, or people got unproven knowledge. This is something too early to do by newbies.

Contributing on the forum can be varied, it is not only about the knowledge about forum. Newbies can share their experience on the other field (out side of forum), everyone must have their own experience to share with others. If it is about the experience on trading or investment, I still can trust newbies. Newbie accounts don't always mean newbie trader or newbie investor.

*I assume sharing isn't intended to teach others.

Well I must say this, most of these newbies are well to do in knowledge about this platform. I have seen many newbies here who really knows their ways around this platform and for the first time making posts at the right board which means that some also know the right board and tell me if a newbie could make just a first post on the right board, does this not tell you something? Some newbies possibly are in the know how things works here, some are fast learner while some are otherwise.

From what I can see here the tag newbie limits them to sharing their experience no matter how vast they are in knowledge about the platform as long as you have the tag newbie you are limited and therefore you are assumed not to know much and would be advised to learn.

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Quote from: Ayebabara on July 14, 2023, 05:34:46 PM

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

If it is about forum, I agree that newbies shouldn't teach others because they actually have just started to know forum. When they teach others, they may lose their focus or share something they don't really understand. Other people can misunderstand it, or people got unproven knowledge. This is something too early to do by newbies.

Contributing on the forum can be varied, it is not only about the knowledge about forum. Newbies can share their experience on the other field (out side of forum), everyone must have their own experience to share with others. If it is about the experience on trading or investment, I still can trust newbies. Newbie accounts don't always mean newbie trader or newbie investor.

*I assume sharing isn't intended to teach others.

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I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 14, 2023, 02:36:59 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 22, 2023, 03:59:04 PM

It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.

I think most newbies have this character which they always want to let people know the little they have leant about cryptocurrency, even if they don't understand it much they just want to give it out . It will be good if newbies can learn more first and not to be in haste to share their knowledge about something that they do not know about. The real thing newbies are suppose to come up with is to share their challenge on things that seems difficult for them to understand about bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.

Not a bad idea if they want to showcase what they have learnt within a short period of time but don't you feel it's going to be difficult for people to believe them even when they are really making sense because they are very new to the forum? Some members may even try to dig deep to confirm if the account is an alt to some one who's already an established member here if the person teaches those things in a very good way since the account is still very new don't you think so, I think coming to a new place the first thing to do is to understand how things work in the particular area even though you understand things correctly but you still need to be calm so you don't do good things in a bad time thinking you have done very well.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 22, 2023, 03:59:04 PM

It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.

I think most newbies have this character which they always want to let people know the little they have leant about cryptocurrency, even if they don't understand it much they just want to give it out . It will be good if newbies can learn more first and not to be in haste to share their knowledge about something that they do not know about. The real thing newbies are suppose to come up with is to share their challenge on things that seems difficult for them to understand about bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on June 22, 2023, 01:36:02 PM

Quote from: KingsDen on June 17, 2023, 06:42:11 PM

However, this does not mean that there are no professional newbies. Any newbie that is pro in bitcoin, trading, mining, altcoins etc are free to give advices or teach even on their first day. The community will appreciate

Yes you are right, and I think it is very easy to identify a newbie with lot's of experience in bitcoin and the other sections that you mentioned but regardless the person will still need some time to go through the forum unless he or she has been involved in a community like bitcointalk else I don't think the person will be able to teach the things that he knows very well for members to understand since it involves writing.

I also think it will appear suspicious to see an account that is a day old in the forum to teach things here especially on the bitcoin discussion board don't you think some members will think the person is an old member ho is trying to build a new alt account since such person has acquired so much knowledge? think about it.

I concur with your opinion mate. Most newbies are possibly more enlightened about bitcoin more than some members here and possibly some too have had experience as a result of their exposure to other platforms so they can easily have their ways on any platform they find themselves which is why most times when you see some newbie operate you would be wondering if that account is an alt account of a high rank member but in the real sense, it is not so.

Nevertheless, of lately I have seen many funny replies to some newbie on this particular board which did not go down well with them. I was of the opinion same as yours OP that newbies be at calm wether they know or not as long as they have the tag newbies, it Is assumed that they do not know what's up with the platform and as such would be expected to learn how things works here so as not to be called to order. I think this has been the challenges facing newbies here.

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Ha, finally someone talk about this, I was about to create something like this, because the way newbies are stepping too forward this days are getting annoying, and at the end of the day you will find out that they don't even know much about what they are saying, instead of trying to learn they are the ones doing the teaching, I remember when I first came on this forum, I can't recall how many times my topics are base on questions only, because I don't know many things and I needed answers, which is how I pictured things to be, if you are new on the forum, stay new for a while and learn first.

Not all newbies are like this, very few knows about something before coming on the forum, I don't mean to hurt anyone's feeling saying this but the majority of them believe they know something, even the smartest people keep things to themselves, instead they observe very well, and this is why they grow smarter, learn when you should be teaching, it's the best advice to newbies so far.

OP thanks for creating this wonderful topic about newbies habit, I hope they learn from it.

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It has been really fun reading through the whole content of this thread as I have seen so many funny comments and replies from users.

But I would like to point out the case of many alt accounts created by users to actually surf the forum for better chances of getting benefits here in the forum @campaign services.

There is popular case of an actual user accused of having many alts and although I don't how true this is but I would like to think that these account will be well sound in many forum discussion since the users has already gained knowledge here about the happening in the forum, and plus most newbie are actually crypto gurus before ever finding their way to the forum.

But in all, a large portion of newbie here still fall victims of the actual topic discussed here and its totally understandable why the op would point this out.

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People currently once they learn they think they overcome all the things they need to learn in the world of crypto. Most likely when it comes to an investment, they know some of the investors trying to make a risk in the shitcoins and they courage the newbies to try this too because they know it could be easy money once they hit an early but at the end they didn't make a profit instead they caught with the honeypot trap and even them didn't make a high amount on their investment and trades with this coins.
There's nothing wrong in exchanging details and information but being too much superior with others and getting settled with the knowledge in crypto does not make you more knowledgeable. We are in technology and there's always an innovation.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on July 12, 2023, 05:41:22 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 22, 2023, 03:59:04 PM

It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.

You can't underestimate someone because is a newbie, the newbie that is encouraging other newbies maybe newbie in account of bitcointalk but in knowledge of cryptocurrency is wiser and understandable than someone who is in bitcointalk for one year, I wanted to use this and create a thread but I thought people have made such thread before. We should not underrate anyone who making suggestions of they know because the rank is a lower rank, read the content if its not meaningful you can pass judgement and criticism on the person, currently I have seen a recent newbie in the forum that know better than someone that spent three years in forum, and many people are wondering if the person is someone alt or not, so it may because of the knowledge of the person acquired before coming to forum

No one is underrating newbies because it is possible for some to be a newbie with good knowledge of Bitcoin but I believe the first step should be for the person with knowledge to calm, go through the forum and understand the necessary things first before coming up to teach things that has already be discussed here but that could be in a new way but I still think a newbie with such knowledge should also understand that teaching people things when your account shows that you just got registered few days ago, do you think people will comfortably listen to you without feeling some how? I think it's wise by getting to explore the forum very well and get to know the rulles before you think of creating multiple thread.

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Quote from: mk4 on June 16, 2023, 11:42:51 AM

Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:

This is one of the reasons why things are easily said than done. Just imagine a newbie teaching on how to gain large view bit still don't have a reasonable views. We need to be wise and think well before writing to teach especially for the newbies who are supposed to be learning not trying to teach to earn merits. Those who understand the consequences of passing wrong information to the public in the name of teaching will understand more especially when they have been a victim one time or the other. It is good we keep learning even though when we know more than the source of the information.

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