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Topic: Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. - page 6. (Read 1356 times)

sr. member
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
Hahaha... Your writing is very to the point. But that's good, maybe many newbies want attention, I'm the same. Of course, everyone talks about the quality of posts, but there are still a lot of comments that are full of nonsense and repetitive.

But that's how discussions go, there should always be something to discuss, I'm actually worried that everyone will be smart. There probably won't be any more discussions
hero member
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It's not bad or wrong to teach someone who are interested about something like Crypto and other related topics but I would say that it is bad if what that person is teaching to someone is not the correct information or should I say misinformation then that's an issue or situation that we don't want to happen but there are newbies who are already knowledgeable about the topic and some are present here in the forum where the only that makes them newbie is about the rank while their knowledge is not on a newbie level.
hero member
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While what you said is true, let's not forget that there are newbies who have impacted themselves with the knowledge of crypto before joining the forum. They only appear as a newbie in the forum not as a newbie in the crypto knowledge and exposure.

Some newbies have already gotten crypto knowledge elsewhere(social media platforms or the internet) before advancing to the stage they were to be advising other people on what to do or what to do in the crypto space. I have some crypto influencers I have been following off this forum, for quite some time, if you hear them speak or lecture you about crypto, you will marvel at where they got all the knowledge of crypto from. Such types of people can find their way through a friend that will introduce them to this forum by letting them know how the btt forum is(sharing information and lecturing people about crypto) and they might decide to join the forum to dish out their advice to the forum members in a way they can through their few posts.

Having said that, every one of us is free to dish out advice about bitcoin in a manner we can. Whether a newbie or not. We are all here to learn from one another. Being a newbie is for btt accounts not mainly on the amount of crypto knowledge to be judged with
hero member
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This issue is amongst the reasons why newbies aren't making it here. For real Bitcointalk is not a forum you try to play on people's emotions, that's what all those type of post by newbies are all about.

I still think it's wrong to make a post about you learning the rules and regulations and you would follow it or the one that a newbie formed an anthem for newbies. I don't know where all this began from but honestly it's not working, and it can be so irritating that the newbies who post this sort of things can get put on ignore by some members.

Funny enough the members who has the merit rarely talk about how to get them but those who does not think they can actually be in the position to talk about it. as a newbie you part now is to improve yourself, focus on getting personal knowledge and find a way to contribute properly.
sr. member
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
Some of them just get those idea on google and try to paste here becausw they just want to earn merit. They didn't realize that this is not the best thing to do since they are not actually helping especially if they cannot answer on the clarification im the post by some people here. Maybe they should focus to learn since for sure there wants to gain those merits will just come.
sr. member
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It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here.

And how many posts and merits will be sufficient and correct? 3 posts and 1 merit? 1376 posts and 396 merits? You know, I now have a little more posts and merits than 2 and 0 respectively, but I still do not feel entitled to recommend anyone how to invest correctly. And from a change in the number of posts and merits, this feeling does not change at all. Yes, since I had 2 posts and 0 merits, I have already managed to learn a number of new things for myself on the forum, but most of what I can say now, I knew when I had 2 post and 0 merits. It is not my own posts and merits that give me new knowledge, but immersion in various topics and articles.

Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

As Socrates said, "I know that I know nothing". It is difficult to deal with your own delusions if you do not express them publicly and do not receive feedback indicating the error. If you are afraid to share your knowledge for fear of making a mistake, you can build all your knowledge on erroneous grounds. There are enough experienced users on the forum who can fix the error, right?

The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.

And for some reason it looks exactly like that you want to discourage newbies.
hero member
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What about your first thread you created in this forum?

What Is Time? Time can be defined as the process in which all things happen.

What Is Process? Process can simply be defined as a motion or action taken by an individual with the sole aim of achieving a certain result of goal.

FACTS:
1. You can not do without time because we are fabricated by time.
2. You can not change time but you can change with time and what you change to is predicted by your decision and steps taken in actualizing it.
3. You can not cheat time, be consistent with your process and success is inevitable.
4. Your value increases or decreases based on the decision you take.
CONCLUSION: If your decision is right and your process in actualizing it is wrong, your result will be wrong also. So take the right steps and you can grow from a newbie to a Legendary member. Remember, time waits for nobody.

Your account registered since March 09, 2022 and this thread was created on March 14, 2022, but you know about the forum rank and guide the newbies to rank up by taking such right steps Roll Eyes

It's better if you look into yourself before creating a new thread.

Now I really curious why there are two newbie accounts meriting @OP account instead of other valuable thread Tongue
member
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
As it is believed that there is wisdom in listening more than talking. So also is reading more in this forum. Cultivating the Habits of reading more enables us, mostly the newbies to learn much more from the high rank members of the forum that have been here for long.
hero member
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.


Seriously, I don't think it really makes sense to see newbies that have just created their accounts for a few days come up with ideas to give advice to other members, especially when creating threads to give advice. The funniest part is that they will introduce themselves at first post by saying that they are newbies and they know nothing about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general and are ready to learn, but a few days later they will just come up with a new thread advising others. It is not bad for newbies to give advice in the forum, but what will make someone's post get attention is to contribute important things, not just go around the forum, pick topics that other members have discussed before, change some words, and repost. If any newbies want to make quality posts, they really need to spend some time in the forum and learn so they can be guided properly. What are I am always expecting from newbies most  that just created accounts? It always questions on any part they don't understand about Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency industry.
legendary
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When I was without a merit I wanted to make this same mistake even when I know nothing but I got orientation from my senior colleagues here that made me to retrace my step, what most of lack is orientation, I got the knowledge that it is more better for us as newbies to read and make more research on everything we think that will help us and and other members of this forum to learn before we make contributions or even teach forum members, As the name implies that's what it is, A newbie is novice with little or without a knowlegde of Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency in general as far as Bitcoin talk is concerned so you ought not to teach when you know nothing, is just like walking faster than your shadow, am very impressed with this thread and I will adhere strictly to this piece of advice as I see it thanks.

You still keep doing the same. You are still without merit; having five merits says little. I followed your history; you don't listen to advice.
The presence of punctuation marks in a sentence will not indicate your literacy. You were advised to use dots in sentences, just like capital letters. But there is no change.
In addition, this is not the first time you repeat the same thing about how beginners should behave.
In the end, start with yourself.
newbie
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:



Lol I almost fell down from the sofa seeing this funny image. I see a lot of the post here too but I just ignore most of them because once they get tired and they don't see the merit they are looking for, they will disappear and never come back. How can someone teach what he or she has no knowledge about? I think most of them only come here to catch some fun and nothing serious.

 Grin Grin Grin I must say, you have quite the sense of humor! Indeed, sometimes if we find funny posts and funny pictures that make us smile to ourselves. However, I assure you that there are also plenty of serious and knowledgeable individuals here who are genuinely trying to provide valuable insight and are involved.

Maybe there are times as you say because Every member of the community has different intentions and goals. Some may come here for fun, while others have a serious intention of sharing knowledge and engaging in useful discussions. One of them may be me.
hero member
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We have become accustomed to this type of posts made by newly made accounts, and we know that the main goal of them is to obtain Merit points in order to upgrade membership and join one of the signature campaigns. I regret to inform you that this appeal that you are making will not work in anything, and the situation will continue as it is, since the membership upgrade system on the forum is not within the reach of many, especially the idiot ones Lol.
By the way, there are similar cases in the loan section, where new accounts try to pretend to be smart to argue with those who seek to convince them that the forum is not a place to distribute money for free. It ends up being red tagged by DT at best cases .

Loooool   Grin
This image made my day. Thank You mk4  Cheesy
hero member
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Yeah, I agree with you, but despite it, we know that knowledge is not measured by the number of merits earned or posts made. Some people have the knowledge already before they hit the forum, just like you said, and some of them have this great enthusiasm to just drop the knowledge they have all in haste. Well, it's good, but at the same time, it's wrong, and some people may not find it funny, while others will see it as nothing.
You are right. We shouldn't just picture Who the advice is coming from but what is important is to capture what the content of the advice is, if it is write or wrong. Even in the real life the people who give advice about life and even about marriage does not have or practice what they give to the public. So it doesn't mean that they should be looked down because of what they teach does not work for them, what is just important to just pick up the important information and learn from it.

But some beginners still needs to learn first before they give out what will be helpful to other members of the forum, because good knowledge can only be give out by learning. Since the forum is a discussion forum it doesn't restrict newbies from sharing their opinions, it is possible to come across who have not learn enough and want to share their ideas about the little they know, doing this it can also help them to learn more from senior forum users that will correct their wrong ideas
hero member
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Indeed, you can’t teach what you don’t know. And I quite agree with you. In a bid to gain some attention or perhaps some other bizarre reason, people with freshly created account tend to try and educate other members on topics that they’re ignorant about.
I’ve come across some really interesting posts that has no relevance whatsoever as some are even incomprehensible to begin with.

If a newbie/anyone who really wants to learn, then they should read threads on here and ask questions on whatever isn’t fully understood.
People, who in a bid to show off and tell the world about how really smart and intelligent they are end up showing off their ignorance and low intellect.
True. People who are less knowledgeable or no knowledge at all should never be seen educating others as it could only affect and leave negative impact to those who were being taught. Instead, newbies should learn to improve their own knowledge first and develop their own skills before they become reliable and reputable in sharing what they know to other people. So know when to teach and influence other people, so that you will be acknowledged based on you shared thoughts and initiatives and not on your eagerness to influence others.
hero member
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:


It seems that people who opted to do this do not think of leaving a good impact to their viewers. As long as they will be paid in every content, that just shows that their greed is too high for their own knowledge. Most especially for newbies who need the most knowledge more than their greed because if they can’t be knowledgeable enough, then they will never last longer in the forum, nor in making their life successful. That is why knowledge is power, since everything starts with knowledge before you think of influencing others.
legendary
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I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
They will stop it if we don't give them merit for such zero quality topics. They continue do it simply because they learned from other posters and topics that they can fish 1 or some merits.

With them, fishing merits is all they care, not quality not contributions from what they write. They think of merit before they write those topics that limits idea for their writing.
sr. member
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:

😂😂😅😅🤣🤣
I can not stop laughing this is a typical example of a newbie advising people on how to trade when they have no trading portfolio with no reputation onboard.
They have no audience, no activities, not reasonable posts and contributions, no merits and they want to teach their seniors 1 plus 1.
hero member
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It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here.
Excluding one, they can advise anyone if they are really experienced users on investing but have never been on forums.

Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.
Basically they don't break the rules, but some people might not think it's worth it the first few days.
I don't completely agree with you in this case. Some beginners can be treated differently when they have better knowledge than some other users.
legendary
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To stop teaching when you need to learn should be a basic principle for everyone. Unfortunately, it is less common than we'd like, here in this forum but also everywhere else. Ego and ignorance about their own ignorance play a decisive role in such "human" behaviour.

As some colleagues said before, in our case it is not just a matter of rank. Of course, there are many newbies who have no clue about Bitcoin or crypto but they write as they knew more than others, but there are also alt accounts or brand new members here who gained experience elsewhere and now joined the forum.

I get that these are not the cases OP means, but as he mentioned activity and merits I think that a little aside won't hurt.
sr. member
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I saw this post and I laughed because I have seen so many newbies trying hard to advise tye forum on some certain things which they ought not to do. Although it does not mean that all newbie account meant that they don't know anything about Bitcoin or about the reality of life but it would be funny and surprisimg to see newbies trying to advise people on making the right investment plan that shows a big misconception.

 Sometimes newbies might be forced to try hard to earn merit by making post about the proper steps people need to take to earn merits or write a good post. They don't need to advise people or pass some information that may be surprising how a newbie knows about that kind of information.
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