It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.
You can't underestimate someone because is a newbie, the newbie that is encouraging other newbies maybe newbie in account of bitcointalk but in knowledge of cryptocurrency is wiser and understandable than someone who is in bitcointalk for one year, I wanted to use this and create a thread but I thought people have made such thread before. We should not underrate anyone who making suggestions of they know because the rank is a lower rank, read the content if its not meaningful you can pass judgement and criticism on the person, currently I have seen a recent newbie in the forum that know better than someone that spent three years in forum, and many people are wondering if the person is someone alt or not, so it may because of the knowledge of the person acquired before coming to forum 
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:
oh gosh this cracked my ribs.Reminds me of a seminar I attend some time ago about how to make good investments that can make you rich at most a year. Few minutes after the seminar as I was leaving while in a cab, I spotted the speaker from the seminar along the way going home on foot. That's was when I realized myself remembering the acknowledgement that says you can't give what you don't have. In same vein that's how some of our newbies present themselves in the forum through their funny threads.
It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.
However, this does not mean that there are no professional newbies. Any newbie that is pro in bitcoin, trading, mining, altcoins etc are free to give advices or teach even on their first day. The community will appreciate
Yes you are right, and I think it is very easy to identify a newbie with lot's of experience in bitcoin and the other sections that you mentioned but regardless the person will still need some time to go through the forum unless he or she has been involved in a community like bitcointalk else I don't think the person will be able to teach the things that he knows very well for members to understand since it involves writing.
I also think it will appear suspicious to see an account that is a day old in the forum to teach things here especially on the bitcoin discussion board don't you think some members will think the person is an old member ho is trying to build a new alt account since such person has acquired so much knowledge? think about it.
This is indeed very strange, sometimes there are beginners who share tips or advice just to get merit, moreover, they really don't understand the Bitcointalk forum at all and don't have the level of experience or knowledge of crypto. if there are beginners with little knowledge give advice or tips about the technical aspects of this forum, such as improving the quality of posts or how to earn merit. this may seem unreasonable and indeed he should stop behaving like that. Beginners should spend more time studying and reading the forum rules before trying to provide advice or tips.
But there are also some beginners who may be more experienced but he just joined this forum, maybe he used to only focus on traders or investments. if it's like this it doesn't mean he doesn't have knowledge or understanding about certain aspects of the crypto world. If so, I think there is nothing wrong with teaching or sharing his knowledge and experience in this forum. moreover, he really understands about Development & Technical, this is very good for sharing information.
But there are also some beginners who may be more experienced but he just joined this forum, maybe he used to only focus on traders or investments. if it's like this it doesn't mean he doesn't have knowledge or understanding about certain aspects of the crypto world. If so, I think there is nothing wrong with teaching or sharing his knowledge and experience in this forum. moreover, he really understands about Development & Technical, this is very good for sharing information.
The simple mistakes that newbies keep making .. I thought it was right to allow them Since the rules on speech liberty gives a huge liverage on anyone that's atleast, registered in here.
Sometimes, they feel they know too much already to be corrected or informed on what to do....that's where it becomes a crime to tell a member on a lower rank what not to do; I always say, it's better to read more than write.
There's no experience that a newbie would ever have more than a long standing member in here - as long as BTT is in the picture. The more you stay in here and study the interface, the more you become confident of what you do.
Sandra 🧑🦰
You are correct mate. When you continue to familiarize with the platform, you get to know more about te platform and how to go about activities here but these newbies are not really patient enough to follow guidelines. They assume they know everything even when they know nothing about the platform even with the newbie tag on them which should tell them where they belong, they still do not see that.Sometimes, they feel they know too much already to be corrected or informed on what to do....that's where it becomes a crime to tell a member on a lower rank what not to do; I always say, it's better to read more than write.
There's no experience that a newbie would ever have more than a long standing member in here - as long as BTT is in the picture. The more you stay in here and study the interface, the more you become confident of what you do.
Sandra 🧑🦰
Irrespective of who the newbie account holder is, as long as it is a newbie account, one should know how to compose themselves and learn and not to start creating any form of awareness here.
The simple mistakes that newbies keep making .. I thought it was right to allow them Since the rules on speech liberty gives a huge liverage on anyone that's atleast, registered in here.
Sometimes, they feel they know too much already to be corrected or informed on what to do....that's where it becomes a crime to tell a member on a lower rank what not to do; I always say, it's better to read more than write.
There's no experience that a newbie would ever have more than a long standing member in here - as long as BTT is in the picture. The more you stay in here and study the interface, the more you become confident of what you do.
Sandra 🧑🦰
Sometimes, they feel they know too much already to be corrected or informed on what to do....that's where it becomes a crime to tell a member on a lower rank what not to do; I always say, it's better to read more than write.
There's no experience that a newbie would ever have more than a long standing member in here - as long as BTT is in the picture. The more you stay in here and study the interface, the more you become confident of what you do.
Sandra 🧑🦰
As an individual, your eagerness to help and share what you have is always our best asset. But did you know that we can only give and best influence others if we are giving them the best version of us. That is the reason why newbies instead of teaching other newbies to learn, just focus on yourself first. Be more encourage to learn and embrace new ideas that will help you grow as an individual and as a member in the forum. Otherwise, your best potentials will never be seen in you especially if your focus is on other people and not on yourself.
This is not to discourage newbies not to teach and share what they have learned, but this is more of a realization that newbies should focus more on acquiring the best of knowledge and develop their full potentials first before they start considering others to learn from them. Although I have no regrets when I did this before, but I realized I can only teach and give the best to them if I have the best knowledge and skills that I have developed within in myself.
The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.
I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
I actually aggreed with you OP, I have also seen so many newbies posting how to invest and how investment works, I can't help but wonder how a beginner will be mentoring a member about crypto investment, irrespective of how much a newbie thinks he knows about crypto outside, but in this forum there are people who knows better, everyone in here starting as a newbie and not because they had no knowledge about crypto before coming to this forum, but they focusses on knowing how the forum works and to learn more about crypto before advice could be given from them.
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Indeed, sometimes it's funny to see the posts of beginners in which they broadcast like experienced gurus. In theory, this could actually be because we don't know the background of accounts with 2 activities and 0 merit. In real life, this may indeed be people with fairly extensive knowledge and experience, but in practice, most often, these advisers turn out to be not quite experienced experts. This can be seen from the content of their texts. It's good that OP raised this topic for discussion, because this problem takes place on the forum and I would like that after reading the comments here, newcomers stop pretending to be crypto-gurus (for some, this is simply necessary). It is better to concentrate on enriching your knowledge, instead of teaching others (especially when there is no necessary knowledge for this). 
While what you said is true, let's not forget that there are newbies who have impacted themselves with the knowledge of crypto before joining the forum. They only appear as a newbie in the forum not as a newbie in the crypto knowledge and exposure.
Some newbies have already gotten crypto knowledge elsewhere(social media platforms or the internet) before advancing to the stage they were to be advising other people on what to do or what to do in the crypto space. I have some crypto influencers I have been following off this forum, for quite some time, if you hear them speak or lecture you about crypto, you will marvel at where they got all the knowledge of crypto from. Such types of people can find their way through a friend that will introduce them to this forum by letting them know how the btt forum is(sharing information and lecturing people about crypto) and they might decide to join the forum to dish out their advice to the forum members in a way they can through their few posts.
Having said that, every one of us is free to dish out advice about bitcoin in a manner we can. Whether a newbie or not. We are all here to learn from one another. Being a newbie is for btt accounts not mainly on the amount of crypto knowledge to be judged with
You've salient points there. We do have users like that who already are knowledgeable in Bitcoin coming in here. However, what I don't find funny about such users is their haste to open topics and teach like there's something at stake if they don't teach. Ordinarily, one would expect a certain level of restraint from such newbies so they can observe how things are run here before displaying whatever knowledge they think they've acquired. It's even worse when such users unwittingly display their lack of indepth knowledge on the said issue they purport to teach. I think newbies shouldn't be in a haste to prove anything if they're truly genuine newbies. Some newbies have already gotten crypto knowledge elsewhere(social media platforms or the internet) before advancing to the stage they were to be advising other people on what to do or what to do in the crypto space. I have some crypto influencers I have been following off this forum, for quite some time, if you hear them speak or lecture you about crypto, you will marvel at where they got all the knowledge of crypto from. Such types of people can find their way through a friend that will introduce them to this forum by letting them know how the btt forum is(sharing information and lecturing people about crypto) and they might decide to join the forum to dish out their advice to the forum members in a way they can through their few posts.
Having said that, every one of us is free to dish out advice about bitcoin in a manner we can. Whether a newbie or not. We are all here to learn from one another. Being a newbie is for btt accounts not mainly on the amount of crypto knowledge to be judged with
I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
Actually, this is not wrong, as long as they really understand what they are telling or teaching. If they have a little knowledge that is understood and is willing to share it in good, organized, and easy-to-understand language and the essence of which is correct and appropriate, not plagiarism, this is really not a problem. especially if it is fairly new information. This will be an attraction in itself.However, that is the ideal condition, While what happened is true as the OP said. And it's not even just 1 or 2 that do, but many more. So, it is true that we need to understand first before teaching something to others. Sharing or teaching something that we really understand and is in our realm, not just pretending to know in order to get a prize or merit from other people.
It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here.
I don't think there's a problem with it. Being a newbie here in the forum does not necessarily mean being a newbie in real life. What if an expert in investing in real life were to join the forum to share their knowledge and learn at the same time? I believe that would change your perspective on your statement. Therefore, I think we should not generalize and always believe that anyone can share or provide advice regarding investments, regardless of their forum status.
In reality, there are individuals who hold legendary ranks in the forum but have limited knowledge when it comes to investment.
Newbies are not expected to teach and influence other people as their knowledge is still limited. They lack knowledge and experience to share that will convince the people. Instead, they are obliged to acquire more reliable information first and develop some self strategies and skills so that they can be good teachers and influencers in the future. Although I believe sharing what you learn is a noble act, but note that newbies are not capable to do that, just give that chance to those who have been here in the market for long.
As a newbie, it is assumed that you are new onboard the platform so therefore, you have no idea how the system works and as a matter of fact, since this platform is all about bitcoin, same thought is applicable in both ways. Although some newbies are not what you think they are, some have vast experience in Crypto currency and bitcoin and would want to show it here but would be talked down at. So the best way to avoid such is to remain a newbie, and learn about the forum and policies so as to keep updated of events and activities.
In as much as some newbies are knowledgeable enough, they would have no option than being cool until they rank up.
While some people come up with idea that is not cogent and not reasonable enough is because of they are inquisitive to earn merit, from my understanding you most learn and make a proper research before coming up with idea, every one knows while they in rush to make thread is because of merit earning which is obvious, some newbie have ideas of cryptocurrency before joining forum while some don't have the idea, so to learn better you have to read and observe the community before making any reply
Nothing wrong if they share some idea but they also need to support their thread if someone ask them about what they shared. If they just post an information without visiting it and just target to earn a merit then this is really wrong because provably nothing happen to their development if they became a merit whore.
Best if they could just more helpful things for their selves and maybe stop engaging on situations that they don't know.
Its good to focus for a while on informations you need to learn because this could give them a big help so that they could learn a lot of things on crypto.
I don't find it wrong if a newbie wanted to share a very important knowledge as long as they really have knowledge over the topic being discussed. A newbie here can be a guru outside this forum and has bountiful knowledge about the topic he wanted to discuss. As long as the thread of the newbie is constructive, innovative and full of new information, it will certainly helps the members in the forum to have more knowledge about the given topic.
I agree with this. If the person is contributing to Bitcoin or something related to it in general then it's fine. If it's a contribution to economic stuff and life, the world, politics, etc, then it's fine. One thing I've really admired about this forum is that despite the ranking system, you can learn from anybody.
The problem comes when the person is making advice about things on the forum when he is just new to the forum. You can't be advising people to make quality posts when you've not had a single activity period. Telling people how to get merit when you've not had a single merit. It's absurd, except that's an alt account.
A person might be a guru in Bitcoin trading and be a newbie on the forum, so if that kind of person is making a piece of advice on trading then it's perfectly fine, (that's what we're here for; to learn), but being a guru in trading doesn't mean he knows all about the forum to the extent of teaching others about stuff like that.
While some people come up with idea that is not cogent and not reasonable enough is because of they are inquisitive to earn merit, from my understanding you most learn and make a proper research before coming up with idea, every one knows while they in rush to make thread is because of merit earning which is obvious, some newbie have ideas of cryptocurrency before joining forum while some don't have the idea, so to learn better you have to read and observe the community before making any reply
Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:
this is hilarious, he's teaching what he can't apply..But most times what the teach tend to benefit other users, life has different approaches, the approach I embrace may work for me and not for you, so its best to find your motivation and stay put at it.
We all know that a newbie account in this forum doesn't always mean a beginner in crypto. Someone may be experienced enough, but he just joined bitcointalk forum. I'm sure there are many professional traders or investors who aren't involved with bitcointalk forum. They may focus on their own business and aren't interested to join discussions in a crypto forum. So, I've no problem if a newbie shares tips or advice for crypto investment or trading. But if a newbie shares tips or advice about improving post quality or the best way to get merits, it is surely weird/strange. How can a newbie with a few posts only, understand something specific in this forum? It doesn't make sense. I can agree that a newbie needs a process to know everything about this forum. 
yes, this forum is a place for open discussion and in my opinion there is no problem if beginners teach something to other members. as long as the advice or opinion is reasonable and correct why belittle them as a beginner.This forum is for open discussion and if someone gives advice whether they are beginners or not and it is their right to give suggestions or their opinions, beginners do not mean that they have no experience at all.
but sometimes it's a bit strange if a beginner teaches forum techniques that they shouldn't fully understand. but once again I think even beginners have the right to give advice according to their abilities.
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