Topic: Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. - page 5. (Read 1378 times)
I'm a newbie, and I want to learn how things work around here. Please you can advise me on the right part to take, and also I need to be guided on the type of post to make as a newbie
Newbies should focus first on acquiring new concepts in the crypto market before they will be reliable enough to teach others so that their teachings will be based on facts and are not misleading. And to think that you cannot share something relevant when you have nothing important to share in the first place so always chose to learn first for yourself before others will learn from you. That is how teaching and learning takes place.
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Indeed, sometimes it's funny to see the posts of beginners in which they broadcast like experienced gurus. In theory, this could actually be because we don't know the background of accounts with 2 activities and 0 merit. In real life, this may indeed be people with fairly extensive knowledge and experience, but in practice, most often, these advisers turn out to be not quite experienced experts. This can be seen from the content of their texts. It's good that OP raised this topic for discussion, because this problem takes place on the forum and I would like that after reading the comments here, newcomers stop pretending to be crypto-gurus (for some, this is simply necessary). It is better to concentrate on enriching your knowledge, instead of teaching others (especially when there is no necessary knowledge for this). Most newbies who teach even when they don't actually know what they are talking about often get banned. Do you know why? Lovesmayfamilis is that one person that points it out. As she will always say in ban appeals that the victims wanted to show that they are actually more intelligent than they are. The only way to do this is to copy random texts from online and pass them as theirs.
If actually they don't do this, how will they maintain their tutor standards in the forum.
There is actually nothing bad in being opened to learning.
It's not bad or wrong to teach someone who are interested about something like Crypto and other related topics but I would say that it is bad if what that person is teaching to someone is not the correct information or should I say misinformation then that's an issue or situation that we don't want to happen but there are newbies who are already knowledgeable about the topic and some are present here in the forum where the only that makes them newbie is about the rank while their knowledge is not on a newbie level.
Well that could be true for some newbies. But I have also seen other newbies trying to influence other people and act like as if they know everything when the fact is they only have less knowledge and real experiences in the market. That should never be encouraged in the first place. Although sharing information is never bad, but what makes it bad is you are miseducating the person who also believe that what you tell him are all based on facts and reliable enough. 
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Indeed, sometimes it's funny to see the posts of beginners in which they broadcast like experienced gurus. In theory, this could actually be because we don't know the background of accounts with 2 activities and 0 merit. In real life, this may indeed be people with fairly extensive knowledge and experience, but in practice, most often, these advisers turn out to be not quite experienced experts. This can be seen from the content of their texts. It's good that OP raised this topic for discussion, because this problem takes place on the forum and I would like that after reading the comments here, newcomers stop pretending to be crypto-gurus (for some, this is simply necessary). It is better to concentrate on enriching your knowledge, instead of teaching others (especially when there is no necessary knowledge for this). I do not accept the idea of a newbie not sharing his or her own idea on how to invest in bitcoin or trying to advise a new investor on how to invest because many newbies here has been on the bitcoin world outside this bitcointalk forum and many people are a strong investor that has invested for a long time now so bitcointalk newbies that have been an investors can share there own lite knowledge about bitcoin, everyone in this forum should share there own ideas about bitcoin so others can aquare more knowledge.
Reading this make me sick and maybe op might be right but that does not mean that all newbies are ignorant of the cryptocurrency market. This is just a community where you can decide or not to create an account and participate in the community building and sharing different opinions. Not everyone is interested in this so if a newbie gives his own opinion about the general aspect of investment and what it could entails, that should be seen based on there knowledge and experience the person has so far not on the rank or level in the community. No one should see a newbie as a juvenile writer or someone that has no concrete knowledge about some certain things, whether investment or not. If the community is opened to everyone so we should know that we're liable for anything we write here and going to bear the consequences if it's against the rules and it's guidelines.
Nice try op!
I agree with your opinion, because if we don't know, don't force yourself to answer. so just answer what we know.
but this is a discussion forum so of course we are free to express opinions, with quality opinions.
but of course op YOU don't worry because there are moderators who will of course delete posts that are not useful.
and in my opinion a beginner must also be confident in expressing opinions, because of course everyone's opinion is different.
but op something that you convey is of course a good thing because we really have to maintain the quality of posts in this forum.
but this is a discussion forum so of course we are free to express opinions, with quality opinions.
but of course op YOU don't worry because there are moderators who will of course delete posts that are not useful.
and in my opinion a beginner must also be confident in expressing opinions, because of course everyone's opinion is different.
but op something that you convey is of course a good thing because we really have to maintain the quality of posts in this forum.
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:
This is hilarious. I don't have a problem if a newbie comes up with something I have never heard before or that is important to learn. Rank should not matter in this case. But, If someone is a newbie in forum rank and wants to teach others how the forum works, that's fascinating and affords to catch some merits. As I said, there are many talented people with newbie forum rank who have coding skills and other skills which may help others get rid of issues. I appreciate their help if they create a solution thread or post. BTW, where did you get this meme? I have seen this YouTuber, and he is proud of this meme. Now he got some subscribers. I hope people won't call you Bengali because you posted this.
A very good advice Op!
Some newbies pretend they know much and always advice their fellow newbies and sometimes they tend to advice some established members too. But we have nothing to worry about because every action has its consequence. Most of such newbies end up in people's ignore list.
However, this does not mean that there are no professional newbies. Any newbie that is pro in bitcoin, trading, mining, altcoins etc are free to give advices or teach even on their first day. The community will appreciate
Some newbies pretend they know much and always advice their fellow newbies and sometimes they tend to advice some established members too. But we have nothing to worry about because every action has its consequence. Most of such newbies end up in people's ignore list.
However, this does not mean that there are no professional newbies. Any newbie that is pro in bitcoin, trading, mining, altcoins etc are free to give advices or teach even on their first day. The community will appreciate
It’s actually a real talk for newbies as they are not supposed to act as if they know, when they have nothing important to share in reality. I believe it’s more of a pride and maybe greed. So I think as much as possible, newbies should avoid educating others, but instead educate theirselves first by being open minded so they can easily absorb everything that they need to acquire and learn. After that, when they’re good and reliable enough, they can always take time to teach other people those important things that newbies need to know.
We all know that a newbie account in this forum doesn't always mean a beginner in crypto. Someone may be experienced enough, but he just joined bitcointalk forum. I'm sure there are many professional traders or investors who aren't involved with bitcointalk forum. They may focus on their own business and aren't interested to join discussions in a crypto forum. So, I've no problem if a newbie shares tips or advice for crypto investment or trading. But if a newbie shares tips or advice about improving post quality or the best way to get merits, it is surely weird/strange. How can a newbie with a few posts only, understand something specific in this forum? It doesn't make sense. I can agree that a newbie needs a process to know everything about this forum. 
The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit
I want newcomers to understand that not all threads are necessary here for them to discuss on, and that someone should do more research about something before bringing it up to the forum, even though you are not expected to do so as a beginner when you are also looking for a way to learn from the more experienced forum members. I believe some newcomers believe that creating a topic in the forum is a way of gaining merits but yeah it need to be meaningful, which is why I believe most beginners create threads Before they establish a post, this is why they perceive it as difficult when they wish to build a significant issue and then offer it that way, however I think some still lack guarding.
Although they are newbies, that consistently post meaningful posts to the forum. Despite this, however, merits do not come for only forum contributions. In my opinion, exchanging thoughtful, beneficial suggestions is another approach to acquire merits that will advance one's rank.
Op you are right but there some newbies that in the forum are not newbies in knowledge about bitcoin of any other Cryptocurrencies. They are just new in the forum but not in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. Some people them are much more better than even some of the top rank Members here.
And if the forum rules limited them to teach then they have to obey the rules but if it is not then I don't see any reason of stopping them if they can deliver the knowledge very well. Because in knowledge, nobody is perfect.
And if the forum rules limited them to teach then they have to obey the rules but if it is not then I don't see any reason of stopping them if they can deliver the knowledge very well. Because in knowledge, nobody is perfect.
Newbies are not expected to teach and influence other people as their knowledge is still limited. They lack knowledge and experience to share that will convince the people. Instead, they are obliged to acquire more reliable information first and develop some self strategies and skills so that they can be good teachers and influencers in the future. Although I believe sharing what you learn is a noble act, but note that newbies are not capable to do that, just give that chance to those who have been here in the market for long.
But that's how discussions go, there should always be something to discuss, I'm actually worried that everyone will be smart. There probably won't be any more discussions
Smart people have way more things to discuss and its not repetitive since they can have a full arsenal of topics and insights. If two smart minds meet, they end up with lots of new ideas and more topics to discuss.
I do not accept the idea of a newbie not sharing his or her own idea on how to invest in bitcoin or trying to advise a new investor on how to invest because many newbies here has been on the bitcoin world outside this bitcointalk forum and many people are a strong investor that has invested for a long time now so bitcointalk newbies that have been an investors can share there own lite knowledge about bitcoin, everyone in this forum should share there own ideas about bitcoin so others can aquare more knowledge.
This forum is open for all insights, ideas and questions, though they need to be publish on their right discussion board. So I also don't mind if a newbie create a topic and share his knowledge as long as it is not the same as the recently created topic.
The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.
They think that giving an advice is a form of contribution in the forum since this is what we are always suggesting when someone ask on how to earn merit. It’s either giving mediocre advise or creating a made up story about Bitcoin that involves their personal life is the common way of newbie nowadays to fish for merit. I’m not saying that this bad too but this newbie is just finding a way to use this for their advantage even if their contribution is not authentic or legit.
They are just chasing merits tho.
Even if you are capable if the merit holder don't want you to give merit, you can't get one
. But of course we should continuously participate in a discussion as long as we don't spam and contribute to the thread, merit will find its way to us. 
The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.
They think that giving an advice is a form of contribution in the forum since this is what we are always suggesting when someone ask on how to earn merit. It’s either giving mediocre advise or creating a made up story about Bitcoin that involves their personal life is the common way of newbie nowadays to fish for merit. I’m not saying that this bad too but this newbie is just finding a way to use this for their advantage even if their contribution is not authentic or legit.
They are just chasing merits tho.
I do not accept the idea of a newbie not sharing his or her own idea on how to invest in bitcoin or trying to advise a new investor on how to invest because many newbies here has been on the bitcoin world outside this bitcointalk forum and many people are a strong investor that has invested for a long time now so bitcointalk newbies that have been an investors can share there own lite knowledge about bitcoin, everyone in this forum should share there own ideas about bitcoin so others can aquare more knowledge.
The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.
What you said could be likened to a story I heard about a particular man who has been jobless for many years and have been relying on the charity of others to survive, wrote a book titled "How to create wealth and be financially independent." He approached his neighbour and asked him to buy the book and the neighbour replied him to go read the book he wrote first. It's funny sometimes when I see posts or topics of some newbies dishing out advice on a particular subject when they have zero knowledge about it. The truth is you cannot give what you don't have. I'm not trying to belittle anyone or saying that all newbies are the same because merit or ranking cannot be used as a yardstick to judge how knowledgeable one is, but some of them should not be hasty, rather take some time to read and learn. 
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I can not stop laughing this is a typical example of a newbie advising people on how to trade when they have no trading portfolio with no reputation onboard.
They have no audience, no activities, not reasonable posts and contributions, no merits and they want to teach their seniors 1 plus 1.
Beginners try to become teachers for everyone, even though they themselves still don't have enough knowledge. he also had no audience. People saw him just because he did something ridiculous, not to say he was the best. Beginners who really understand and are serious will not become an impromptu advisor. I can not stop laughing this is a typical example of a newbie advising people on how to trade when they have no trading portfolio with no reputation onboard.
They have no audience, no activities, not reasonable posts and contributions, no merits and they want to teach their seniors 1 plus 1.
Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:
Secret tips indeed. 
this is so funny its been a while a laugh this hard. It just demonstrates that the YouTube account's owner certainly wants views and followers, even though the tactic is extremely amateur. This is the same as what newbies do, by this point, they ought to be aware that this tactic is ineffective and that they must step up their game if they hope to succeed. Instead of posting and attempting to educate their fellow newbies, they should concentrate on learning and expanding their knowledge. They should ask questions about topics they don't understand and participate in discussion threads that advance their understanding. Jump to: