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Topic: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! (Read 49970 times)

legendary
Activity: 2413
Merit: 1003
I always warned about this broker, incl. in this topic
legendary
Activity: 971
Merit: 1000
Sorry to hear about your troubles!
For anyone looking to an alternative: https://1broker.com
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0

Funny how I never got a letter saying I should withdrawal.

Probably because I had just redeposited 9k USD.

Maja is the coward who will not answer my email.

At this point in life, I'm losing everything as a result  of Maja robbing me.
 Life is so dark and grim
That I'm contemplating whether or not to keep going.

I want everyone to know that I am suffering tremendously and I have repeatedly
Begged Maja to return my balance .

I made the major mistake of trusting Maja.
I even went to bat for him.

He is destroying me in return.

May God help me. 

May God have vengence on Maja.

James G.

legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
We are still working on keeping the business ruining but it is not looking too well.

All best,
Maja


Thats all emails.

I close all orders on Friday and asked withdrawal.

Funds received.
full member
Activity: 158
Merit: 100
Wow, could you provide more details?

I'm not asking you to name names or provide confidential information.

I just want to understand the mechanics of this forced shutdown.

Was it regulatory, i.e. KYC/AML issues, or something else?

Note:  I am not a customer but was planning to open a live account in the next few months.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Hi,

with great displeasure we are informing you Bit4X is shutting down.

Note that your balances are safe, however we occurred uncircumventable problems between our liquidity providers and clearing operations.
Therefore we ask you to close your open orders by the end of Fridays (tomorrow) market hours and then proceed to withdraw.
We realize the notice is sudden - this is because we tried until the end to alleviate the mentioned issues in order to continue our operations,
however this proved to be impossible. It is likely our price feeds will be offline by Monday.

We sincerely thank you for trading with us.

Best regards,
Bit4X team
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
Guys take care with bit4x. They are forex scammers. They never send my money back and now they deleted my live account with my money
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 500
And this is how it worked:

I deposited 5K usd worth of bitcoin into Bit4X

The 5K was converted into an internal denomination called a mBTC  (1000 mBTC = 1 Bitcoin)

https://bit4x.com/news

So at the time the 5K was worth 11000 mBTC

I ended up withdrawing a little over 30000 mBTC yesterday.

The MT4 platform only allowed me to withdrawal 9999.99 mBTC per transaction, so I had to make 4 transactions.

Then, the Bit4X admin combined all four of the MT4 transactions into one Bitcoin withdrawal request, destined for my outside wallet address.






newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
And this is how it worked:

I deposited 5K usd worth of bitcoin into Bit4X

The 5K was converted into an internal denomination called a mBTC  (1000 mBTC = 1 Bitcoin)

https://bit4x.com/news

So at the time the 5K was worth 11000 mBTC

I ended up withdrawing a little over 30000 mBTC yesterday.

The MT4 platform only allowed me to withdrawal 9999.99 mBTC per transaction, so I had to make 4 transactions.

Then, the Bit4X admin combined all four of the MT4 transactions into one Bitcoin withdrawal request, destined for my outside wallet address.





newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
January 11th, 2016

Here is my Bit4X review:

I sent $5000 usd worth of bitcoin into Bit4X almost one month ago.

The deposit was applied to my Bit4x account within 24 hours.

The MT4 trading platform runs extremely smooth with this broker.
 There are no lags, and the platform has never crashed.

 Buys and sells were just about instantaneous using the platform; and probably the best performance I've seen in 15 years of trading.
  I did Not encounter any brokers tricks while using the platform.

 Yesterday, I requested a sizable withdraw, about 13K usd worth of bitcoin.

 The withdraw was processed promptly within 24 hours, and now I have the bitcoins in my wallet.

 ** All in All, I am very impressed with Bit4X and I will definitely utilize them again in the future.

 The ONLY negative that I have, is that my Bit4X account balance value floats up & down with the price of bitcoin.

 Hope this helps other traders.

ADDENDUM: I realize that many of you may ask why I would send this broker $5K right off the bat?
 The reason is that after reading all the past reviews about Bit4X, I decided that the allegations against the owner are frivolous.
So, I decided to make the deposit into Bit4X.

And now, the owner has confirmed his good business integrity.


legendary
Activity: 2413
Merit: 1003
Any news?

I saw active ads on bitmedia with this service.

Also they lowered first deposit to 0.1

Honestly looks like a great broker but not much activity in this thread to know if anyone has any success using them.

Maybe there is another forum with more information about this broker.


be careful with this broker. there was a first thread which OP didn't like the outcome and he deleted it. also the regulator which this broker claims to be regulated from issued a warning. check out the thread in my signiture for some infos on brokers
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 500
Any news?

I saw active ads on bitmedia with this service.

Also they lowered first deposit to 0.1

Honestly looks like a great broker but not much activity in this thread to know if anyone has any success using them.

Maybe there is another forum with more information about this broker.

Do you use this broker yourself?
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Any news?

I saw active ads on bitmedia with this service.

Also they lowered first deposit to 0.1

Honestly looks like a great broker but not much activity in this thread to know if anyone has any success using them.

Maybe there is another forum with more information about this broker.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Any news?

I saw active ads on bitmedia with this service.

Also they lowered first deposit to 0.1
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 251
I've been looking at Bit4x for a while now as I liked the idea of having my account denominated in BTC. Been reading through this thread today and glad I did not go ahead with it. Thanks for all those who exposed this business.

To the owner, Matic, the remarks you made in this thread is not what one would expect from a professional and or a person in your position. At stages I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but your remarks smacks of arrogance and you never really answered any of the pertinent questions asked of you. If the information provided in this thread is not enough warning to anybody contemplating opening an account with your firm then your attitude should surely be.

I think I will head the warning issued by the FCA:

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The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), UK’s financial regulator, issued a warning yesterday against Bit4X and VenetFX of being ‘cloned firms’ purpotrading to be authorized entities with the FCA.  A forex broker offering customers trading with the MetaTrader 4 platform, VenetFX states that its operations are part of Worth.IT Financial Services LTD, a UK FCA registered corporation.   Operating out of Slovenia, VenetFX made some headlines last year as it became the first forex broker to offer the ability to fund accounts with bitcoins, under its Bit4X brand.  They also launched a bitcoin denominated hedge fund which invests in the forex market.

Warning against VenetFX and Bit4X, the FCA announced that the brokers are in fact not affiliated with Worth.IT and are simply using the name of what had been a registered UK firm in the past, but no longer exists.  Categorizing the brokers as ‘clone firms’, the FCA stated that they are part of a tactic where “Fraudsters are using the details of firms we authorize to try to convince people that they work for a genuine, authorized firm”. 

Rest of the article can be read here ==> http://dcmagnates.com/uks-fca-issues-warning-against-bitcoin-brokers-bit4x-and-venetfx/

I'll just stick with my existing broker and keep on nagging them to get bitcoin into their service offering.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Anyone check up on this? Were his prior claims true? What's the news on this "taking a break as of August 2014"?

Haven't heard anything about any "break". Everything still works exactly as it did when I posted. I did however trade my account to pretty much zero $150 USD at this point.... so I haven't been trading Forex much. Thank god I only started with 10btc. Too bad I didn't start with a demo account first. :p live and learn.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
In case anyone still cares:


 BIT4X.Com is legit. Don't take the word of the "arm-chair" traders in this thread who will never be satisfied with any answer proving ("proving") the legitimacy of the BIT4x service. They haven't tried it, they haven't put their money where their mouth is... and they won't because "they know better". Well I have.

In December I opened an account, downloaded the software and transferred 10 btc, following all the instructions as provided. I have been trading forex pairs with my bitcoin funds ever since. Granted, I've been loosing my ass... but that has no bearing on the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the BIT4X.com service. I'm a rookie and while I was quite proficient making easy gains trading bitcoin in a down trending bitcoin market; translating my "skills" after two months of watching every youtube video I could find on trading- didn't quite take in the big-leagues.

There is something to be said about *truly* understanding the power of a leveraged trade... and the inherent risk of being over-leveraged and under-educated. But nonetheless, I've got nothing but great things to say about the service, about Matic- and I'm hoping they continue to grow the business.

Constructive criticism: The MT4 trading platform is great. Actually it's so great, 2001 called and said they wanted it back. Seriously. I do all my charting on tradingview.com and have to set my positions using MT4. It's a pain in the ass. The charting  tools are junk. Why couldn't they partner with tradingveiw.com and put some serious teeth on that bitch. If I could trade from the same platform I chart on, that would be F*cking fantastic. The same is true with my BTC trading. I use bitstamp for my limit order trades, chart with tradingview.com. Yeah, there's QTOpen trader or whatever that's called... it's just kinda... meh.  Anywho, if you want to get into forex using bitcoin funds, BIT4X.com- works. No gimmicks, no shadiness- it straight up, just works. cheers.
hero member
Activity: 714
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Psi laju, karavani prolaze.
Thank you for your concerns, I normally wouldn't bother to post an answer since most has already been addressed in this very thread, but with so much bold statements (see, we are already having pun), it seems like I have to repeat myself.

- Your firm is NOT regulated by the FSA and you are lying when you claim to be.  Everyone follow these steps:
1.  Go to http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmSearchForm.do
2.  Type 217689 (This is FXCM - a regulated, respected, and legal broker)
3.  Click regulators
4.  Notice how it says, "Financial Services Authority" - FXCM is legally regulated
5.  Follow step 1-2 with 194835 (The number for VenetFX)
6.  Click regulators
7.  Notice the void?  VenetFX is NOT regulated by the FSA and they claim to be
8.  Now click the permissions link for each of the above firms.  VenetFX is NOT authorized to transact in foreign exchange, contracts for difference, or spot forex

These things take up to 6 months to update in the register.
It's now sure been way more than 6 months since the date of your post - November 05, 2012. There's still no record of your company with the UK regulators as of this time. How do you explain this?

Hi, you must be new. A lot of things have happened in the while, for example, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-litecoin-crypto-currencies-law-uk-legislation-526227
How does that link justify you lying about having a UK regulation for your brokerage while in fact never having it?

We did not lie, details of this go past this forum. Now take your sockpuppet account and troll someone who cares.
That's just what you did - lied, conned, and deceived. You have no regulation in the UK and never had. Yet you claimed having one, not showing up because it presumably took some months for the regulator's site to update their information. Now more than enough time has passed and your con has surfaced. Honestly, you would have better not replied to me with that link because now I won't leave this thread without discrediting your conning practice completely.

See, you have no idea, and bring claims to the table like you would have. That is familiar. Goomboo?
Nothing more to say in defense of your scam?

Only lol. At you and your sock.
I wonder what your next lie will be. That your vaults got hacked and you now have to part with all the cash collected from your investors who thought they were dealing with a regulated British institution? ROFL.

Yes ROFL at you. As if regulation guarantees anything, you must be new.
Lies about being regulated sure don't guarantee the security of one's investment. Cool

Sockpuppeting on the other hand does.  Grin

Anyway, try harder next time. And get a new sock first, this one already stinks.
I've done what I intended: exposed your con and got you jumping at the fence for a lack of arguments. Now, whoever invests with your lying scam will have no one to blame but themselves.

Yes you have done a wonderful job. Pat on the back of your socky!

Psi laju, karavani prolaze.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Thank you for your concerns, I normally wouldn't bother to post an answer since most has already been addressed in this very thread, but with so much bold statements (see, we are already having pun), it seems like I have to repeat myself.

- Your firm is NOT regulated by the FSA and you are lying when you claim to be.  Everyone follow these steps:
1.  Go to http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmSearchForm.do
2.  Type 217689 (This is FXCM - a regulated, respected, and legal broker)
3.  Click regulators
4.  Notice how it says, "Financial Services Authority" - FXCM is legally regulated
5.  Follow step 1-2 with 194835 (The number for VenetFX)
6.  Click regulators
7.  Notice the void?  VenetFX is NOT regulated by the FSA and they claim to be
8.  Now click the permissions link for each of the above firms.  VenetFX is NOT authorized to transact in foreign exchange, contracts for difference, or spot forex

These things take up to 6 months to update in the register.
It's now sure been way more than 6 months since the date of your post - November 05, 2012. There's still no record of your company with the UK regulators as of this time. How do you explain this?

Hi, you must be new. A lot of things have happened in the while, for example, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-litecoin-crypto-currencies-law-uk-legislation-526227
How does that link justify you lying about having a UK regulation for your brokerage while in fact never having it?

We did not lie, details of this go past this forum. Now take your sockpuppet account and troll someone who cares.
That's just what you did - lied, conned, and deceived. You have no regulation in the UK and never had. Yet you claimed having one, not showing up because it presumably took some months for the regulator's site to update their information. Now more than enough time has passed and your con has surfaced. Honestly, you would have better not replied to me with that link because now I won't leave this thread without discrediting your conning practice completely.

See, you have no idea, and bring claims to the table like you would have. That is familiar. Goomboo?
Nothing more to say in defense of your scam?

Only lol. At you and your sock.
I wonder what your next lie will be. That your vaults got hacked and you now have to part with all the cash collected from your investors who thought they were dealing with a regulated British institution? ROFL.

Yes ROFL at you. As if regulation guarantees anything, you must be new.
Lies about being regulated sure don't guarantee the security of one's investment. Cool

Sockpuppeting on the other hand does.  Grin

Anyway, try harder next time. And get a new sock first, this one already stinks.
I've done what I intended: exposed your con and got you jumping at the fence for a lack of arguments. Now, whoever invests with your lying scam will have no one to blame but themselves.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Psi laju, karavani prolaze.
Thank you for your concerns, I normally wouldn't bother to post an answer since most has already been addressed in this very thread, but with so much bold statements (see, we are already having pun), it seems like I have to repeat myself.

- Your firm is NOT regulated by the FSA and you are lying when you claim to be.  Everyone follow these steps:
1.  Go to http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmSearchForm.do
2.  Type 217689 (This is FXCM - a regulated, respected, and legal broker)
3.  Click regulators
4.  Notice how it says, "Financial Services Authority" - FXCM is legally regulated
5.  Follow step 1-2 with 194835 (The number for VenetFX)
6.  Click regulators
7.  Notice the void?  VenetFX is NOT regulated by the FSA and they claim to be
8.  Now click the permissions link for each of the above firms.  VenetFX is NOT authorized to transact in foreign exchange, contracts for difference, or spot forex

These things take up to 6 months to update in the register.
It's now sure been way more than 6 months since the date of your post - November 05, 2012. There's still no record of your company with the UK regulators as of this time. How do you explain this?

Hi, you must be new. A lot of things have happened in the while, for example, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-litecoin-crypto-currencies-law-uk-legislation-526227
How does that link justify you lying about having a UK regulation for your brokerage while in fact never having it?

We did not lie, details of this go past this forum. Now take your sockpuppet account and troll someone who cares.
That's just what you did - lied, conned, and deceived. You have no regulation in the UK and never had. Yet you claimed having one, not showing up because it presumably took some months for the regulator's site to update their information. Now more than enough time has passed and your con has surfaced. Honestly, you would have better not replied to me with that link because now I won't leave this thread without discrediting your conning practice completely.

See, you have no idea, and bring claims to the table like you would have. That is familiar. Goomboo?
Nothing more to say in defense of your scam?

Only lol. At you and your sock.
I wonder what your next lie will be. That your vaults got hacked and you now have to part with all the cash collected from your investors who thought they were dealing with a regulated British institution? ROFL.

Yes ROFL at you. As if regulation guarantees anything, you must be new.
Lies about being regulated sure don't guarantee the security of one's investment. Cool

Sockpuppeting on the other hand does.  Grin

Anyway, try harder next time. And get a new sock first, this one already stinks.
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