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hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Does anyone know how to contact the owner/admin of this site?
Did you mean NoToKYC itself? Well, it shouldn't be difficult to get in touch with him unless you've not given it time for a try. Although I've not tried any of these means before, you may try them. First, you may want to send him a private link through his Bitcointalk, I am sure he could be checking it once in a while. On checking now, his last activity here reads 25th of April which was just last week, so he is indeed checking.

Alternatively, on his website, there are columns for Blogs (at the upper side) and social media contacts like Telegram, Twitter, Discord and the rest on the bottom side. Those are the best means to contact anyone quicker if the person is still active.
full member
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OrangeFren.com
Does anyone know how to contact the owner/admin of this site?
I think sending direct PM will be enough since OP is constantly online and updating this
thread at least once a week ,
looks like your site is interested in dealing with them ? that's  a good sign of having larger marketing and good luck
about that and to your site as well guys.
copper member
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8ombard.com
Does anyone know how to contact the owner/admin of this site?
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
... Most of these guys are not even worth $2500, is that what they are coming to your house to rob you for?...
People often take this too far despite completing KYC with banks and many other formal and informal establishments (brokerages, hotels, hospitals etc.).
If your personal information/documents fall into the wrong hands then you have no idea what they can do with it. It's not only about knowing where you leave and the risk of getting robbed. Your personal documents can be used in illigal activities such as scamming other people. They can use it to create accounts in your name on some exchanges for example and use it for money laundering...
Submitting your personal documents to your bank agency is not the same as submitting them to an online casino.
You have a point there and I must say that I am already aware of what you said as well. This is why one must ensure that they are not just gambling anyhow, they should gamble with those casinos that are big and serious enough and that can take security as a priority. Also, banks are not so different in the matter of data leaks, this is because it is human beings who are behind its operation as well and not some angels. If you know what many bank employees are doing all in the name of money, you will be amazed, so we should not exonerate them in this. Reputation, security and integrity matter here. Moreso, this is the reason why we should not just see a new casino and register there without thinking it through, why won't they leak your data?

Data leaks are not even peculiar to casinos or any formal or informal settings, banks and financial institutions' data could leak, hackers could infest them and we've seen a lot of government and private establishments where client/customer data got leaked. I've also done KYC with some formal financial establishments where afterwards I would be receiving strange calls and emails, so data leaks every time. But I am not saying this because I believe it is good but just not to exonerate the bank from it. As for the usage of one's data elsewhere, it is also not uncommon, but they do not necessarily need to lay hands on one's document before using one's profile and data all the same, they can doctor it, so risk is everywhere in this digital age.

Regardless, KYC completion is a standard and international procedure, and of course, it has its pros and cons, but no matter how we try to defend or reject it, we must obey in most climes.
hero member
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They market to be as no KYC casino so they should follow it and if they talk about legal compliance then I guess they should not claim anything KYC free at first place .<>


This is quite contradicting, I hope OP will clarify this because no KYC is not the norm for a casino that has a license because they are regulated. AFAIK, when a casino is regulated, KYC is automatic, so they cannot fool the public saying they are a no KYC casino, unless they are unlicense and a fully decentralized platform.
sr. member
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They should be more specific since if they say that they are non KYC compliant casino but later on they ask this because they say that their is an investigation going on their account then this leave some thoughts that they are just fooling the people who trust that they would never ask this. And for stating this they should never ask this requirement so that no people will start to doubt at them since for sure that there's a lot of people will just think about that maybe in future they would use that KYC for them to delay the withdrawals of some users or totally block it since they can't provide what they asked.

That's how it should work, no KYC, it's from the start until the end. If a gambler cheat the casino, do you think a gambler will comply with them in submitting a KYC documents? Of course no because that will only put him in danger and will get arrested since the casino itself they claimed to be regulated.  The thing is, when a casino market to people that they are "NO KYC" and people signed up because they think they'll gain privacy when gambling but later they are required a KYC, they might not like it and as a result, casinos reputation will be at risk.

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They should really stick on what they are promoting since its really shady if there's sudden changes that might happen to them.
THIS IS TRUE.

They market to be as no KYC casino so they should follow it and if they talk about legal compliance then I guess they should not claim anything KYC free at first place if there would be a possible implementation that's why they should not try to fool people since this could able to ruin their reputation built.

Not unless if they don't have any plan to became a reputable casino and their main goal is to scam those people who avoid to gamble on KYC compliant sites. People should read the TOS since its important to know them and if they insist not to do it then they continue to gamble then its their mistake if there's something happened to them and no people would provably give there sympathy especially if they know that person is so lazy.

hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
For a casinos to survive in the current market trends and demand, their must have to acquire license and that comes with a mandate to keep up to date with regulatory requirements such as kyc and the rest of the other demands that comes along with the licence.

And any casino that doesn't have such licence stand the risk of getting shutdown by government at the end of the day due to violation of law.
You are right, especially if they are operating from a sane country that takes everything seriously, including their security and taxation. No casino will thrive in such a country for so long without being made to account for its deeds. This is why many casinos are running in offshore countries, the countries that are less strict and serious, and even if they are regulated with them, the regulation will be weak. Most importantly, this may allow them to have their casino business established for a while before they eventually do the needful with the government. By then, they might have been well-established enough to be able to fulfil all the government's demands, and after all, they've already bought themselves time to do some somewhat illegal things out of the radar of the government.

This is when you see the casinos that might have started without a KYC suddenly asking for KYC from all of their clients at once and might be strict with it, especially during the process of withdrawing their money. This means that they may want to hide in some circumstances, but not forever, and when the government has started with them, it is only two options. It is either to shut down or cooperate with the laws of the land. That's when you see them start doing the needful.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
No KYC should be something we all may have to regard as well as going for, we need our privacy in whatever thing we are doing, we also have to consider the numbers of platforms that can afford to provide us with this, which we want starting right from the gambling platforms, so many gamblers have already been having difficult times from providing informations regarding their KYC informations.

Sure, I understand your point of the integrity of our personal information, also the fact that information could be stolen by hackers and misused for whatever reason some malicious entity had.
Though, you also need to put on the scale how KYC information is a vital part of the Anti money laundering efforts the governments push forward, so most of the criminal organizations cannot grow at a very fast pace by having their drake assets laundered and recirculated within the banking system. If you found and way for people to keep their privacy and at the same time stopping criminals from using casinos to wash their capitals, then I am sure there would be many people interested to talk with you about it and seek for that system implementation on their casinos and betting houses (such a system would give much commercial advantage, since nobody likes to submit information in order to withdraw money from winnings).
Sadly, as the world stands today and since criminals won't stop trying improve their liquidity, KYC has become a necessary evil in this digital era, when money and the internet seem to have fused together.
hero member
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Top Crypto Casino
For a casinos to survive in the current market trends and demand, their must have to acquire license and that comes with a mandate to keep up to date with regulatory requirements such as kyc and the rest of the other demands that comes along with the licence.

And any casino that doesn't have such licence stand the risk of getting shutdown by government at the end of the day due to violation of law.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
We are working on a new big update soon.
Waiting to see the update when it drops, because most of us that have being following up with the discussions on this thread have being seeking for a clarification of a provable and standstill statement on the KYC demands from your team, wether your site is a 100% no KYC or just some partial KYC.


Because some casinos may promise a no KYC at the start but along the line when the gambler win a substantial amount, their come up with such demands for verification before they can withdraw.
One thing we must understand is that, with the current settiings in terms of regulations and so on, there is no registered online gambling casino that will be kyc free, any casino that is kyc free is possibly not yet registered and don't have a license, or the license they claim to have may likely be a fake one, every genuine online gambling casino that is genuinely registered and given an original operating license sure must demand kyc from their customers, as this is something that they are mandated to do, failure sometimes lead to the government or regulators sanctioning such casino for the offense.

But on the other, I believe there is nothing wrong if we have a community casino where the owners are well trusted to not abscond with customers funds, even without them registering the casino, which should possibly be the gateway for them to need to require kyc verification from users.
If this is the type of casino this platform is building, then I think it's good, and I also look forward to them launching it.
legendary
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Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook
We are working on a new big update soon.

Looking forward to it.

Anyway, I don't know if it has been asked already or I didn't read this in the OP before.. this one.
from OP
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- KYC Level: We prioritize low or No KYC platforms. Perfect for those seeking KYC-free crypto services.
What do you mean but low KYC? Because if you promote no KYC, it should be completely no KYC at all.

Also you posted about your license.
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- License: Credible licenses, such as Curacao, add trustworthiness.
Does this license providers allow you to operate with requiring KYC to gamblers?

This may be the first occasion I have read or even listened about such a thing like "low KYC"... But if I had to guess on what it means, then I would say it is about providing some personal information to the casino or service provider which is not as extensive as the "full KYC" which I typically asked when we wish to withdraw money from a casino.
Perhaps, instead asking for pictures of ourselves and our passports, they would ask for an email and Identity card (which is not as valuable as a passport in terms in identity verification).

Also, as far as I recall the casino licensed issued by the authorities in Curaçao are not suitable for casinos which do not want to impose their KYC practices on their gamblers. So my guess is OP meant simply to keep a separate section in his webpage to be dedicated for the ratings of casino licenses themselves, not casinos which operate under them.

It is all kind of a speculation from my part, though.  Tongue

That's why I got confused because usually when there's a KYC policy, the rules should be specific. When requiring more KYC during investigation, I think that's a different thing as it could be categorized to a special cases. You know, investigation like that does not happen most of the time, so we should only stick with the standard procedure when marketing the casino and talking about KYC process.

They should be more specific since if they say that they are non KYC compliant casino but later on they ask this because they say that their is an investigation going on their account then this leave some thoughts that they are just fooling the people who trust that they would never ask this. And for stating this they should never ask this requirement so that no people will start to doubt at them since for sure that there's a lot of people will just think about that maybe in future they would use that KYC for them to delay the withdrawals of some users or totally block it since they can't provide what they asked.

That's how it should work, no KYC, it's from the start until the end. If a gambler cheat the casino, do you think a gambler will comply with them in submitting a KYC documents? Of course no because that will only put him in danger and will get arrested since the casino itself they claimed to be regulated.  The thing is, when a casino market to people that they are "NO KYC" and people signed up because they think they'll gain privacy when gambling but later they are required a KYC, they might not like it and as a result, casinos reputation will be at risk.

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They should really stick on what they are promoting since its really shady if there's sudden changes that might happen to them.
THIS IS TRUE.
hero member
Activity: 826
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We are working on a new big update soon.
Waiting to see the update when it drops, because most of us that have being following up with the discussions on this thread have being seeking for a clarification of a provable and standstill statement on the KYC demands from your team, wether your site is a 100% no KYC or just some partial KYC.


Because some casinos may promise a no KYC at the start but along the line when the gambler win a substantial amount, their come up with such demands for verification before they can withdraw.
hero member
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No KYC should be something we all may have to regard as well as going for, we need our privacy in whatever thing we are doing, we also have to consider the numbers of platforms that can afford to provide us with this, which we want starting right from the gambling platforms, so many gamblers have already been having difficult times from providing informations regarding their KYC informations.
legendary
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Bro, truly, this is a consideration, but people are taking it too far. Think of it, since you've been growing up till today, how many places have you dropped your personal details and contact details? Have they harmed you till today? This is peculiar to those who overemphasise the danger in completing the KYC, it is not so bad and dangerous. Most of these guys are not even worth $2500, is that what they are coming to your house to rob you for? And if it is online, is the person childish to the point of clicking the unfamiliar links, sending OTP/2FA code to strangers or even entertaining a conversation with a stranger, especially when money is related? If the person did that, then it is his fault and not the fault of the KYC.

I'm just saying that in the worst-case scenario, we should not believe that KYC is a cause of imminent danger or privacy infringement. The data leak we are even talking about is in degree, and if they do not know you to warrant a direct threat, the major thing they need is your email and phone number, they do not have any business at your house. And if you are careful enough on your path, all their online efforts will still be to nothing. Some people will not stop making me laugh here, imagine, someone who has only $2500 as the maximum amount in an international casino that is many miles away from his country still afraid of data leaks and personal threats. Will they (perpetrators) fly from their country down to you just because of your peanut? People often take this too far despite completing KYC with banks and many other formal and informal establishments (brokerages, hotels, hospitals etc.).

Believe it or not, this is the first time I have read here on the forum from a long-standing member about this lenient treatment of private data and the extent of its impact on the concept of “privacy” in general.
We must always differentiate between the private information that we share with banks and well-known service institutions (banks, insurance companies...), and sharing that same data with companies on the Internet, especially those that do not have a clear headquarters, that is, they operate without according to proven legal licenses.
In the first case, your data is kept confidential in accordance with laws that the institution adheres to and declares this as part of the procedures for obtaining a license from the country granting approval for the activity. Any defect in the use of this data could expose the organization to unfair punitive measures that may lead to the payment of compensation in huge amounts or even the cessation of activity completely.
In the second case, the risk increases because the online company can use that data in different ways that are not compatible with the principle of “preserving personal data,” especially since users may never realize that. In addition, the servers of these sites are constantly vulnerable to hacking, and there are no sufficient guarantees about the absolute safety of their systems. There are many cases of hacking or scam projects, and with a simple search it is possible to review many examples of disasters that users have been exposed to as a result of their data being stolen or even sold on the black market.
sr. member
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We are working on a new big update soon.

Looking forward to it.

Anyway, I don't know if it has been asked already or I didn't read this in the OP before.. this one.
from OP
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- KYC Level: We prioritize low or No KYC platforms. Perfect for those seeking KYC-free crypto services.
What do you mean but low KYC? Because if you promote no KYC, it should be completely no KYC at all.

Also you posted about your license.
Quote
- License: Credible licenses, such as Curacao, add trustworthiness.
Does this license providers allow you to operate with requiring KYC to gamblers?

This may be the first occasion I have read or even listened about such a thing like "low KYC"... But if I had to guess on what it means, then I would say it is about providing some personal information to the casino or service provider which is not as extensive as the "full KYC" which I typically asked when we wish to withdraw money from a casino.
Perhaps, instead asking for pictures of ourselves and our passports, they would ask for an email and Identity card (which is not as valuable as a passport in terms in identity verification).

Also, as far as I recall the casino licensed issued by the authorities in Curaçao are not suitable for casinos which do not want to impose their KYC practices on their gamblers. So my guess is OP meant simply to keep a separate section in his webpage to be dedicated for the ratings of casino licenses themselves, not casinos which operate under them.

It is all kind of a speculation from my part, though.  Tongue

That's why I got confused because usually when there's a KYC policy, the rules should be specific. When requiring more KYC during investigation, I think that's a different thing as it could be categorized to a special cases. You know, investigation like that does not happen most of the time, so we should only stick with the standard procedure when marketing the casino and talking about KYC process.

They should be more specific since if they say that they are non KYC compliant casino but later on they ask this because they say that their is an investigation going on their account then this leave some thoughts that they are just fooling the people who trust that they would never ask this. And for stating this they should never ask this requirement so that no people will start to doubt at them since for sure that there's a lot of people will just think about that maybe in future they would use that KYC for them to delay the withdrawals of some users or totally block it since they can't provide what they asked. They should really stick on what they are promoting since its really shady if there's sudden changes that might happen to them.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1160
Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook
We are working on a new big update soon.

Looking forward to it.

Anyway, I don't know if it has been asked already or I didn't read this in the OP before.. this one.
from OP
Quote
- KYC Level: We prioritize low or No KYC platforms. Perfect for those seeking KYC-free crypto services.
What do you mean but low KYC? Because if you promote no KYC, it should be completely no KYC at all.

Also you posted about your license.
Quote
- License: Credible licenses, such as Curacao, add trustworthiness.
Does this license providers allow you to operate with requiring KYC to gamblers?

This may be the first occasion I have read or even listened about such a thing like "low KYC"... But if I had to guess on what it means, then I would say it is about providing some personal information to the casino or service provider which is not as extensive as the "full KYC" which I typically asked when we wish to withdraw money from a casino.
Perhaps, instead asking for pictures of ourselves and our passports, they would ask for an email and Identity card (which is not as valuable as a passport in terms in identity verification).

Also, as far as I recall the casino licensed issued by the authorities in Curaçao are not suitable for casinos which do not want to impose their KYC practices on their gamblers. So my guess is OP meant simply to keep a separate section in his webpage to be dedicated for the ratings of casino licenses themselves, not casinos which operate under them.

It is all kind of a speculation from my part, though.  Tongue

That's why I got confused because usually when there's a KYC policy, the rules should be specific. When requiring more KYC during investigation, I think that's a different thing as it could be categorized to a special cases. You know, investigation like that does not happen most of the time, so we should only stick with the standard procedure when marketing the casino and talking about KYC process.
legendary
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Top Crypto Casino
... Most of these guys are not even worth $2500, is that what they are coming to your house to rob you for?...
People often take this too far despite completing KYC with banks and many other formal and informal establishments (brokerages, hotels, hospitals etc.).
If your personal information/documents fall into the wrong hands then you have no idea what they can do with it. It's not only about knowing where you leave and the risk of getting robbed. Your personal documents can be used in illigal activities such as scamming other people. They can use it to create accounts in your name on some exchanges for example and use it for money laundering...
Submitting your personal documents to your bank agency is not the same as submitting them to an online casino.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
We are working on a new big update soon.

Looking forward to it.

Anyway, I don't know if it has been asked already or I didn't read this in the OP before.. this one.
from OP
Quote
- KYC Level: We prioritize low or No KYC platforms. Perfect for those seeking KYC-free crypto services.
What do you mean but low KYC? Because if you promote no KYC, it should be completely no KYC at all.

Also you posted about your license.
Quote
- License: Credible licenses, such as Curacao, add trustworthiness.
Does this license providers allow you to operate with requiring KYC to gamblers?

This may be the first occasion I have read or even listened about such a thing like "low KYC"... But if I had to guess on what it means, then I would say it is about providing some personal information to the casino or service provider which is not as extensive as the "full KYC" which I typically asked when we wish to withdraw money from a casino.
Perhaps, instead asking for pictures of ourselves and our passports, they would ask for an email and Identity card (which is not as valuable as a passport in terms in identity verification).

Also, as far as I recall the casino licensed issued by the authorities in Curaçao are not suitable for casinos which do not want to impose their KYC practices on their gamblers. So my guess is OP meant simply to keep a separate section in his webpage to be dedicated for the ratings of casino licenses themselves, not casinos which operate under them.

It is all kind of a speculation from my part, though.  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1160
Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook
We are working on a new big update soon.

Looking forward to it.

Anyway, I don't know if it has been asked already or I didn't read this in the OP before.. this one.
from OP
Quote
- KYC Level: We prioritize low or No KYC platforms. Perfect for those seeking KYC-free crypto services.
What do you mean but low KYC? Because if you promote no KYC, it should be completely no KYC at all.

Also you posted about your license.
Quote
- License: Credible licenses, such as Curacao, add trustworthiness.
Does this license providers allow you to operate with requiring KYC to gamblers?
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Before it has always always been that the gamblers oftentimes try to avoid some of these gambling casinos that have KYC problems because they know it may hard them to scale through, now gamblers are no more on the look on that, instead they focuses on the nature of the games and services provided, the platforms to be enjoyed and they also don't mind if the government regulations works against such or since they are not affected as a gambler, the gambling platforms have to soughted that our with the regulatory authorities and government.

           -   Sometimes I don't understand why other gamblers seem so afraid to pass their KYC, and in the first place, if they read the Terms and Conditions of a casino platform, they will immediately see if it is my KYC or not.

And if, for example, a casino does not have KYC as long as you do not reach their total wagered requirements, you will be able to withdraw what you have won on the platform unless you have reached the limits; there are other casinos like that.

I understand why people got afraid on submitting their KYC details since there's so many negative possibilities could happen to them if there's a sudden leakage of private data's on the platform you are using and you might encounter a problem like stolen identity issues or other related to frauds or scamming activity that's why to many people are still been skeptical to submit their information even if they know the platform they are using is reputable.

But we understand that this is common requirements now on casino or even on every crypto platforms we are using so the least thing we can do is to choose those most reputable among them all so we can minimize the risk to get a potential issue in future.
Bro, truly, this is a consideration, but people are taking it too far. Think of it, since you've been growing up till today, how many places have you dropped your personal details and contact details? Have they harmed you till today? This is peculiar to those who overemphasise the danger in completing the KYC, it is not so bad and dangerous. Most of these guys are not even worth $2500, is that what they are coming to your house to rob you for? And if it is online, is the person childish to the point of clicking the unfamiliar links, sending OTP/2FA code to strangers or even entertaining a conversation with a stranger, especially when money is related? If the person did that, then it is his fault and not the fault of the KYC.

I'm just saying that in the worst-case scenario, we should not believe that KYC is a cause of imminent danger or privacy infringement. The data leak we are even talking about is in degree, and if they do not know you to warrant a direct threat, the major thing they need is your email and phone number, they do not have any business at your house. And if you are careful enough on your path, all their online efforts will still be to nothing. Some people will not stop making me laugh here, imagine, someone who has only $2500 as the maximum amount in an international casino that is many miles away from his country still afraid of data leaks and personal threats. Will they (perpetrators) fly from their country down to you just because of your peanut? People often take this too far despite completing KYC with banks and many other formal and informal establishments (brokerages, hotels, hospitals etc.).
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