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Those things are what I have experienced most in the casinos because they are recent, they are not old, I only trust like 3 or 4 casinos and I have complied with the KYC because it is the easiest way to do anything to be able to generate the best trust in my deposit , it is Always important that our money goes to the best casino so as not to have problems when withdrawing, for me the worst thing is that they don't tell me anything about KYC and I have to do it last when I need to withdraw my money, that's for my is the worst thing they can do

In the casinos they must say that the KYC Verification must be completed so that they can withdraw, that is the first thing to say in a casino instead of telling them to deposit and deposit, because that is what is really needed, withdrawing is the main thing for all Players.

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It depends on the casino, but in most casinos I've used, I was never force to submit a KYC before I was able to withdraw my money.
I think it also matter on how much you have gambled, because as for me, I'm just a typical gambler betting size is not big since gambling is just for me to enjoy.

When they are regulated, they can require their users for KYC, it could be now or later, anytime, so we should be ready with that.


That's up to the casino as they are regulated and they follow some mandates from their regulaor. If at the beginning when we read the TOS that "KYC" thing is present, we should not neglict it and assume they are not requiring a KYC since they didn't require us when we started. At least be ready anytime, beacuse if you are clean, there's nothing to hide, just follow the rules and enjoy the winning.

If some casino platforms don't require KYC first, I think KYC is mandatory later when it's time to withdraw. When you deposit your money in the casino and win bad then if you want to withdraw that money later it will definitely ask for your license and KYC. Most casinos tend to offer KYC because KYC is required so that they can identify users and prevent money laundering. The casinos you mentioned here might ask for KYC from the user later. Although it doesn't seem to ask for KYC during registration, players may need to do KYC when they want to withdraw money to your casino. And if there is no KYC system then later on may be shady dealing with the players to withdraw more money instead of making KYC mandatory.

Your concern is true and the no-KYC casinos have been the no-go area for me since the day I started gambling and I don't think I can be so tempted to register there judging by the bad reviews I read which are mostly against them. I was tempted a while ago, especially when my supporting documents for verification had expired, but in all, it was never worth it in my view so I have always avoided it. Apart from the money someone could lose due to fraud since no one can question them, it is also bad in the sense that they are not regulated, they could be laundering money, and by patronising them, it technically means that you are supporting such a bad operation.

Needless to say, they can just disappear into the thin air as some of them have done, having gotten enough money from their customers. These guys are only operating because of the under-regulation of internet activities. For this, they can do as they like without anyone questioning them or sanctioning them. So why entrust my money to the care of such a company?

But for the ill-gotten money of some people and the so-called privacy concern of others, they would opt for it. I can't as nothing is as private as people make it seem and I have nothing to hide.

The problem is that there is a huge difference in the fight against crime in developed countries and in all other countries of the world that are considered underdeveloped.  But at the same time, everyone forgets that more than 7 billion people live in these countries.  There are only a billion people in developed countries.  Particularly in undeveloped countries, crimes such as blackmail and extortion, and often outright robbery, are very likely when criminals find out the victim’s address and find out that he has money, such as cryptocurrency.  And the fact that such a person undergoes KYC at the casino, and then this data is stolen by hackers or corrupt employees.  And the result is simply direct attacks by bandits on ordinary people.  And accordingly, the number of such crimes is growing. 
Here are the obvious and completely ugly and harmful consequences of this damn KYC procedure. 
But for some reason, no one among legislators is in a hurry to remember this and does not like to talk about it.  And it's time to do this.  At least even on our forum.

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If a platform is trusted and has a good reputation in the market, gamblers have no problem doing KYC in that casino, because they know that doing KYC here will not face any problem and will have a good experience in the future. Doing KYC is difficult for many gamblers as they try to prioritize their privacy. As a result those gamblers refrain from joining casinos that ask KYC and try to find another alternative as they feel it is a better option for them. Gamblers really don't care much about how the government kicks in, so they just want to be able to withdraw their winnings properly and gamble safely on that platform.

One of the things that most gamblers look out for on casinos is the KYC requirements which is what determine how the casino value the privacy of they player's, and although sometimes we have to note the ability of those casino's and what are the level of their liquidity and prorefecency of service,  besides just kyc, there are other things that can forces gamblers to ditch off no kyc casinos and go after kyc casinos and one of such is the amount of available liquidity and games.

For me, I prefer to just hand over my documents for verifications if I trust the site, instead of risking my funds to  play on a casino that does not have good volumes and risk not paying out if and when I hit a jackpot, all because of no kyc.

Before it has always always been that the gamblers oftentimes try to avoid some of these gambling casinos that have KYC problems because they know it may hard them to scale through, now gamblers are no more on the look on that, instead they focuses on the nature of the games and services provided, the platforms to be enjoyed and they also don't mind if the government regulations works against such or since they are not affected as a gambler, the gambling platforms have to soughted that our with the regulatory authorities and government.

Well, you are absolutely right, what happens is that as long as the players do not let the casinos know these things, the casinos do not care about the very particular and specific cases where the Persons suffer this type of crime, authorities can claim that it was for everything except for a KYC, in the same way some users have said this in their threads regarding the KYC requirement, and this has been an issue that they want to cover by saying that with KYC they obtain much more security and have more options to recover their money in case it is subject to a possible hack, then what they say is that they will be able to recover the funds, but they do not say anything about the leaked data of people, which I believe is very important to handle.

I don't know how things are handled at the level of Europe and the most developed countries, but in the country where I live, even the "authorities" lend themselves to allowing criminals to commit this type of misdeeds, and what they are given is a slice of money. What they get so that criminals continue operating, in reality this is something that has become more dangerous, it may be that in developed countries things are seen very differently, but the focus of all this is going in that direction, for At least in South America things are a little more direct, and people may be a little better prepared to face these types of problems.

It seems to me that often criminals can start blackmailing ordinary people who are not millionaires or cryptocurrency whales but who simply somehow provided their personal data (including their address where they live) as part of the KYC procedure at some crypto casino, and these  the data was stolen and made public on the network. 
After all, the very fact that a player has a cryptocurrency can already indicate that the person has this cryptocurrency, and the fact that he plays in a casino means that he can afford to lose this cryptocurrency.  So the criminal figures out that he can blackmail such a cryptocurrency owner.  And in the process of the crime, find out how much money his victim has. 
So it turns out that the very fact of playing in a casino using cryptocurrency and de-anonymizing the player using KYC is already a potential criminogenic factor and poses a danger to human safety.  And of course, law enforcement agencies must fight such manifestations of crime and extortion.
 And not just fight after a crime has been committed, but carry out preventive measures.
 And by the way, maintaining the anonymity of the player and the absence of public data about him on the Internet is a very high-quality type of counteraction and prevention of this type of crime.

It is very true, in fact this issue of privacy and anonymity has been uncovered for many years and in a great way when the great Edward Snowden did it and launched it to the world, where he made Obama see that he used it to basically spy, which had that program and they used it as the eye of God, then these things are true, the digital age includes videos and cameras everywhere, it is something that the world, especially the most developed countries, have, however, to Sometimes insist to the casino that they do not ask us for so many KYC requirements, because the only thing you can think of is that if this data is hacked, leaked or something like that, it could fall into the hands of criminals who can come to your house. , and if they see that a lot of money is being handled in crypto, they can intimidate you and even kill you, in certain countries this has happened and honestly it is something very serious and that danger should not be taken lightly.

There are criminals who only need to provide people's data to get to their homes, so hearing that can lead to rejection of KYC. As they say here in a saying: "Better safe than sorry", that's why there are so many players who They stopped playing in the casinos just because of the KYC, since they did not like to leave information about themselves in the casinos, in my particular case since I am not a whale or anything like that I think I would not be in danger, but in the same way a criminal It can give us a bad time and that must be avoided.

In general, the world of civilized countries is now so filled with all kinds of surveillance means, video cameras and, above all, digital personal identification technologies have advanced so much that probably in practice any person in such conditions of an urban agglomeration is almost constantly under surveillance.  Total surveillance has already developed so much that even a few years ago in the same SF, for example, there were mass protests against the total surveillance of people using video surveillance and the movement of people corresponding to the software processing of databases. 
Naturally, in such conditions, KYC ceases to be relevant at all, simply because as soon as you log into your computer or mobile phone, it already becomes known that it is you.  And why else is KYC needed here?  This is the side of personal identification under the KYC procedure that I’m talking about.  They are clearly outdated, it becomes unnecessary and only takes away your precious time for nonsense. 
Well, your Personal Data can also be considered simply distributed by you all over the world because it will definitely be stolen by hackers or sold by a corrupt employee of a casino, exchange, bank or any such organization.

What he says is very true, if a casino verifies that the deposit is from a wallet they should not ask for any type of KYC, since if it is from a verified address from an exchange then those reasons can be very different, there it is not possible to approve things are good, because the origin of the funds is repeated, and the casino does not care where the person got the funds from and that is all that should be done, therefore that could be a solution that the casinos should take into consideration , because the journey is not bad.

But I don't know how the casinos can put that clause in their Rivers, that would imply that they redraft it, and that they only give exclusive use to this type of thing, but that would be a very good start, I don't know if the casinos accept something like that , because as I have always said, good things are very few.

Now about the conceptualization and seduction that they have done in favor of KYC, which is more beneficial, well, the truth is, I don't believe that lie for anything, it is obvious that that has nothing to do with it, a person in an exchange, casino, or wherever, it is located faster through an ID that is generated, not by its name, it is a sexualization of things, so I don't like that image they give either, in fact, I have seen people who define the KYC, and they are Legendary , which surprises me.

In my opinion, if a person who uses cryptocurrency payments and has non-custodial wallets with cryptocurrency, which he honestly earned, is offered a centralized service with KYC and a similar one without KYC verification, then such a person will most likely understand that a service without KYC is preferable for him. 
True, here on the forum, some users are confident that KYC gives them some kind of security and a guarantee of saving their money.  And it is also needed to combat fraud and combat money laundering.  But I think that, on the contrary, disclosing complete information about a person, a casino player, in this particular case, on the contrary, reduces the safety of such a person.  Information about his cryptocurrency may well attract money extortionists and criminals using blackmail.  Yes, even additional measures for declaring cryptocurrency take up your precious time and often this all irritates both you and your loved ones.  By the way, KYC also takes up your time.  In general, now, with this level of development of digital technology, there is no difficulty in identifying a specific person if it is really necessary.  And this does not require any KYC, as was the case 10 years ago.

 I continue to argue that in general KYC is morally outdated and should begin to completely die out, as an unnecessary, superfluous and stupid procedure.

This topic is beginning to give rise to a lot of debate, but personally we know that this right to privacy and anonymity is biased, now things are not as before, the obgienros saw the way to be able to enter into cryptocurrency issues Through these regulations and those regulations are to remove anonymity for them to control those who carry out operations with crypto in order to be able to charge them large sums of money for taxes, that is the secret of things, then since this is already known, now they want to put the things like that, in the caisnos everything that is privacy should be defended, anonymously that is a very important thing, especially for me who attach importance to these things, I have always believed that we should be a little more irreverent with the fact of KYC in the casinos, because for everything it is KYC, in the Excahnges, it is Mandatory KYC, and that data belongs there.

The truth is that I Really liked the comparison that was made with the data of the people who are in the medical service, if something like this existed it would be Different , but this is in the Hands of governments, of bank entities, so in the hands of whoever is going to Will our data remain if a gambling site is or becomes involved in a possible hack and does the government take action? As our data Shows, the consequences are already seen in level 1A exchanges, in Binance if they have to block funds from the Eprona for 1 day, a sign, they do it if the police of some country ask them to do all the embarrassments, and we don't know if they are Just ´People in their database to add it to theirs, these things are very likely to happen, that's why we are not just People who are always going to see things from the right perspective. sense of Everything, and we Should not be so trusting, that leaving the KYC generates more security , that is pure Lies , that is to Control all those who do or transact with crypto.

I was also surprised to see the name among the list of the OP, which is absurd, to say the least. Well, I believe the OP is just doing his business by simply directing traffic to his website, that is the main goal here and not so concerned about the integrity/reputation of the casinos, not to mention the safety of the funds of the directed customers. The BitStarz is not even the name that only has a bad reputation on the forum but also has a bad reputation online, the OP can't tell me that he did not know this unless he doesn't just care since it is all about business.

Although the OP did not add the reputation/reliability of the company to be advertised in his criteria, so he can still be exonerated here. It is those who are reading and following that should be more careful. Imagine dealing with no-KYC casinos, are you not the one who is putting the hook on your neck by yourself? Best of luck to their next victims through the OP.

It's worth sharing that I have tried my best since I joined the Bitcointalk forum not to advertise for m!xers and any company of questionable characters. That is what I call integrity. I think we should also be considering the humanitarian aspect as well and not selfishly about the money coming to us alone.

All such information about human health is quite important classified information.  It is not for nothing that the concept of “medical confidentiality” has long existed.  And doctors are obliged to keep such information strictly confidential.  By the way, this is due to the fact that some diseases can negatively affect the search for work and employment with an employer, that is, negative consequences on a person’s private life are quite possible. 

As for KYC in any of its manifestations, I continue to believe that when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency, there should be no KYC at all.  As for this notorious fight against money laundering, it must be said that initially no money and no cryptocurrencies are “dirty”.  This money was simply used by criminals for criminal purposes, law enforcement officers should not “dirty” the money, but should catch criminals red-handed, for example, with a drug party or traffickers.  But this is difficult and dangerous, and law enforcement officers themselves came up with this very “money laundering” to make their work and life easier. 
And the “financial crimes” block is a separate topic for a long conversation.  And as a result of such a conversation, it becomes clear that “dirty” money simply does not exist.