Topic: NSA KNOWS - page 2. (Read 8349 times)

What did the women that were stalked by guys from the nsa do wrong? Why did they go through their calls and emails? Or the ones that had their personal calls listened to and made fun of? Like soldiers making pillow talk, etc. Or American political figures that were spied on for no reason? Or leaders of allied nations? Or the economic espionage of foreign companies, what did they do wrong? What about police corruption and abuse of that power? Don't forget that the people that have this power are just like you and me. Some are corrupt. And some have different views on what is right and wrong.


No thanks. It's for security of Americans to the exclusion of everyone else. And not even that because Americans are also spied on and abused by this power. And worst, there is no reason to believe all that spying helped in any way. Or that other methods getting the same money wouldn't do better with less invasion of privacy.


Yes it is. And they're making it worse. And so are you for not thinking it through.

Well they may or may not know of every transactions and I'm sure if they want to track they will have a way to do it. Bitcoin is not completely anonymous. But as a user, we still have a way to cover the tracks.

They have a giant x-ray laser in space and they use it to zap people they don't like. Cancer is the new weapon of the NSA

I've said it before and I'll say it again with threads like this.

If you're not doing anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about.

Its about national security of the majority of people.

I'd much rather them be there than not, and so should you.

It's a scary world we're living in right now.

Hello fellow jihadists  Death to America!

Is this the thread we discuss acquisition of plutonium and the destruction of the  National Information Infrastructure of America?
I have some great ideas to attack the gas pipeline around the country, we already have the bombs, we just need detonators.





For real tho The NSA dose know. They know fucking everything about you. Unless you mined your own bitcoins outside of a mining pool they can track you.

yes, obviously I know what a civil war is.  I dont know what country you are in, but most countries do have "swat teams", perform raids, privacy means nothing to them.

Some of the "civil wars" going on right now are more or less proxy wars, started by the us, using adjutants, mercenaries etc.  They ship weapons, tell them who to shoot, and let the "civil war" commence

I m talking about a democratic country, not a dictatorship like USA. Well, in my country if the converment raid the houses of the citizens, this means civil war. Do you know what is civil war?

NSA cant spy mesh networks.

Starting with those who have left their identity on the exchanges and those who has made their adresses public on this forum and work from there would give them a lot of info. The nature of blockchain makes every transaction available to anyone who has the computer power to analyse it.

Not sure what they would do with it all but identifying a large number of bitcoin user is quite simple.

thats right, they dont need to know things concretely to "arrest" or detain you.

And once they do, all they have to do is coerce the info they need about you, or raid your house and take your computers, phones, etc and find whatever they want.  Good luck hiding behind an ip address

The sweet thing about secret agencies is that they don't need to KNOW who uses that ip, they only need to guess correctly. And even when they don't guess correctly, you still can be catched in their net wrongly.

They are not the police. They don't need to prove that you are guilty. They catch you away and you rot in some hidden prison. If they are not so sure about you then they will ask you, maybe abu ghraib style?

I mean you never heard how the US targets their drone bomb targets? Metadata. And sim cards from phones and so on. Great, right?

The funny thing is, terrorists then started to throw simcards into a bag and everyone draws one. Guess it is no fun being the fan of a terrorist leader.

Anyway... they know way enough.

Except they have their little kraken arms in every ISP, land- and sealine. It doesn't matter when they can't connect the dots through the blockchain when they already know exactly that you are the one who is using that address because you send around transactions of that kind.

If someone tells you they don't care about privacy at all ask them to send you a video of them fucking their wife or girlfriend and a copy of their ID to verify it's them. That usually stops the debate.

That's actually an argument that is heard pretty often. But you have something to hide. Would you let you film while being on toilet? Doesn't it matter about all the embarrassing things that can be directly found when observing your internet connection or phone? And even if you encrypt, metadata is the big thing for them. Doing that they can guess pretty good that you might have a certain social disease or similar.

And you might own a company. You know that the NSA does corporate espionage?

Only because you think you does have nothing to hide doesn't mean that is the case.

For example this carter from vienna. He wanted to take a ride with one of these websites where rides are offered. At the end he did travel with the train because the driver couldn't drive him at the end. When he reached he was stopped by police and throughly investigated. Including anal investigation.

Why? Because the person he wanted to drive with was a known drug dealer and the police got a tip from some agency. And police though he must have to do with him. That he cancelled the ride via phone went through their observation.

Great right? If you think it's fine for you to be treated like a potential criminal whose daily life has to be observed then be it. But there are great reasons against that.

To be honest, I am only repeating the argument Glenn Greenwald uses when he encounters people who say they "dont care" that they are being spied on.

His point is that EVERYONE values their privacy, and to say you don't mind being spied on is hypocritical.

In fact, everyone values privacy to some extent, and people need to come to grips that just because the gvt is doing it does NOT make it right.

Well I think you could differ what the meaning of being monitored by secret agent with posting our data publicly. Have you ever used Google? Yes? So it means Google have stored your personal data and information about you secretly without notify you before

Now if only they didn't have easy access to who own what ip, then i'm sure that'd make me feel safer. But sadly i don't know of many ISP that you connect to that doesn't have Your name, your address, your bank account #, etc.

An IP is not a person. NSA knows the entrance to internet, but they dont know who uses this entrance.

Also need to use VPNs and Tor, if you are actually trying to evade agencies.
Everything is being logged 24/7 for review at a future date. When AI is a reality, they will review all files in real-time.

It's not fairly easy if you are taking the proper security measures, which you should be taking. If you want privacy, use mixers. Use cold storage. Use a new address for each transaction.