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legendary
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August 04, 2015, 07:22:45 AM
#9
1. Most of my Bitcoin expenses are done from thin clients, not full nodes.

2. A Bitcoin node makes no difference in broadcasting the user's own transactions, or anyone else's. The whole idea of Bitcoin's P2P network is that every node holds and dsitributes every transaction. Hence, the NSA (or anyone else) can't distinguish if the transactions I'm relaying are my own or other people's. That's not their shortcoming, there is simply no difference. Transactions are not linked to or associated with a particular node or user or wallet in any way.

3. I frequently use web wallets. So the transactions I send or receive through there don't have anything to do with my IP or nodes or whatever.

4. For my really large transactions, I create and sign the txs locally, and push them through external APIs.

So, no sir, you're wrong. The NSA knows jack shit.
legendary
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August 04, 2015, 07:20:51 AM
#8
are these NSA fiat sheep we are talking about?

or NSA crypto specialists

I'm just saying: if you think government doesn't know you are onto Bitcoin, you are wrong.

Btw, now that I think about it... they probably have a very good estimate of how many Bitcoin users are all over the globe  Cheesy Grin

I could just send them an email and ask for that number Cheesy

lol they took a brain scan of me at birth im self aware of enuff things

thanks for the imput anywayz
full member
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August 04, 2015, 07:19:05 AM
#7
Off-chain transaction or Darkwallet should make it harder for them, ew already know that transaction are tracable with some efforts and they can build system and basically all someone need to know where are you and who are you is your IP address
hero member
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LOL what you looking at?
August 04, 2015, 07:15:25 AM
#6
are these NSA fiat sheep we are talking about?

or NSA crypto specialists

I'm just saying: if you think government doesn't know you are onto Bitcoin, you are wrong.

Btw, now that I think about it... they probably have a very good estimate of how many Bitcoin users are all over the globe  Cheesy Grin

I could just send them an email and ask for that number Cheesy
legendary
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August 04, 2015, 07:12:26 AM
#5
are these NSA fiat sheep we are talking about?

or NSA crypto specialists
hero member
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August 04, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
#4
What if I pay with Bitcoin  by passing a private key written in crayon on wax paper?

That's good, NSA wouldn't probably know, but the person in front of you would know.
And, as far as I know, this happens really, really rarely Cheesy
legendary
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August 04, 2015, 06:41:43 AM
#3
What if I pay with Bitcoin by passing a private key written in crayon on wax paper?
member
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August 04, 2015, 05:51:45 AM
#2
You mean bitcoin is nsacoin?  Cheesy
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August 04, 2015, 05:43:29 AM
#1
I open this thread because it seems many people have the illusion of anonymity with Bitcoin.

There's a degree of anonymity when you pay with Bitcoin: it's a little more than when you pay in cash, when you buy online, and it's THE SAME of paying in cash if you use Bitcoin at a cafe or in a shop.

But if you think the government can't "spy on you" when you use Bitcoin you are so wrong.

NSA KNOWS you have something to do with Bitcoin when you launch your wallet and connect to a node.

They control each and every connection, so they see from home at n.XX Dumb Street, where Genius Guy lives, somebody just opened a Bitcoin wallet, because you just connected to a Bitcoin node.
And because the volume transfer reveals the amount of money transmitted, they could also know if you have a load of Bitcoin or you are just a guy with average cash.

Now, I may be wrong on this, but it seems pretty straightforward to think: NSA can filter PHONE CALLS and emails, you think they can't set up a system and identify who is running a Bitcoin node and, consequently, users with wallets?
If this system is not already up, it will soon be.
They won't know who is in front of the computer when the wallet is opened, but sure as the Sun, they know at that house somebody is using Bitcoin.



You scared of hackers? That's a better motivation for privacy but still... if you are here now, on this forum, chances are you are so tech savvy that you have a good antivirus installed, you don't open popups and install crap you don't know the origin of.



Also, think the following: if you are so scared to show that you use Bitcoin, what will happen in the future, when a large part of population will use it?
Will they all pretend to be still using dollars? Cheesy

And last but not least... if a hacker manages to enter a computer, no matter if you use Bitcoin or bank account: he'll fuck both.
Sure, with Bitcoin the thing is much faster, but you won't be safe, regardless.

The problem is not Bitcoin, the problem is, and remains, being tech savvy.
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