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Topic: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! - page 124. (Read 66416 times)

legendary
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Is it worth mining with GPUs any more? I was thinking of maybe building a mining rig, but it seems like it's not worth it anymore. Am I wrong?

this is an alt coin question it belongs in the alt coin section


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0



you can also ask here in my thread in alt coins

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/number-9-ninth-altcoin-thread-back-to-the-moon-baby-5144362

in case of deletion
hero member
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You will also need a 64GB fast usb drive, to store LTC blockchain. Snapshot of LTC blockchain is available from jsteafnop MEGA account.

No more. Update software at SD card and USB drive with blockchain. This is only for Apollo batch 2.

For Apollo batch 1 you will need to update MCU also (batch 1 MCU has only 256MB RAM, full node needs 512MB RAM wich batch 2 has).

Anyway, Futurebit sells an upgrade kit for Apollo batch 1 for only a few bucks.

Amazing  Cheesy
legendary
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Hi philipma1957:

Litecoin full node software for the FutureBit Apollo miner released yesterday. It works very well.

Just to let you know  Wink

I don't have access to that gear it is up in clifton.

I assume I need to burn an sd card correct?
hero member
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Hi philipma1957:

Litecoin full node software for the FutureBit Apollo miner released yesterday. It works very well.

Just to let you know  Wink
legendary
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I have found  a slight underclock and a few less cores really makes the gear more efficient .

The power function is geometric so the math will always favour underclocking to some degree.
But, IMO, underclocking a TR is like detuning a Ferarri, it just doesn't seem right. Neither was
designed with efficiency in mind, just performance.

So far 26700 hash rate at 170 watts a mixed underclock

or 27600 hash rate at 223 watts stock settings.

temps are 71c on under clock
temps are 80c on stock.

26700 is about $1.38 a day
27600 is about $ 1.45 a day

24 x 170 more like 24 x 200 = 5 kwatts which means 50 cents at ten cent power

24 x 223 more like 24 x 250 = 6kwatts which means 60 cents at ten cent power.

it is a no brainer to run it at the under clock ⏰ I earn 88 cents a day vs 85 cents

plus gear is quieter and cooler 😎

the be quiet air cooler does the job



Been down clocking for an hour or 2.

gear was set at

 freq 4000 volts 1.4   hash was 27600    watts were 223
 freq 3700 volts 1.3   hash was 27100    watts were 205

 freq 3500 volts 1.05 hash is    26200    watts are    127!!!!!  

will run at this setting for a while    now add you small cpu and chips set  you go to 150  that is 3.6 watts at 10 cents = 36 cents unit is earning about 1.36

net is very close to a dollar a day.

now this is a costly build  

I got a lot of deals to buy it
I had parts
I sold parts.

I lost         23000 xmr hash and some gpus
I get back 26100 xmr hash


power on the old gear was more then 1500 watts 4 gpus 4 cpus it mined at a loss
power on this gear is 150-160 watts   1 cpu mines no cpu mines it mines at a profit.


 this is a one shot deal for me.

 although I am really tempted to buy the big beast  3990x.

Just sell everything that mines to get it.


I did a youtube video  which is loading really slow.

You can see the build.

And listen to it it is pretty much silent.

So At 150 watts 26200 hash  = 175 hash a watt   to be fair I have tried to get good numbers on down clock.


at 250 watts      27600 hash  = 110 hash a watt   to be fair I have not tried to get good numbers on over clock.

  Sorry about loading time youtube is really slow with up load.
  It is about 7 minutes long I am up to 94%
  Build is finished other then adding some feet to the oak slab and a tiny bit of wire management.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4NwHJpyERQ


finally
full member
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I have found  a slight underclock and a few less cores really makes the gear more efficient .

The power function is geometric so the math will always favour underclocking to some degree.
But, IMO, underclocking a TR is like detuning a Ferarri, it just doesn't seem right. Neither was
designed with efficiency in mind, just performance.
legendary
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open air on a slab of oak  the photo is there already

Super.... default AMD fan will do?

Will you run this CPU hard or just optimum so that no need for liquid cooling?

For such an expensive CPU -- custom cooling worth it?


I have found  a slight underclock and a few less cores really makes the gear more efficient .

I am going to try this cooler

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J589GHF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?

90 bucks
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
open air on a slab of oak  the photo is there already

Super.... default AMD fan will do?

Will you run this CPU hard or just optimum so that no need for liquid cooling?

For such an expensive CPU -- custom cooling worth it?
legendary
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open air on a slab of oak  the photo is there already
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
My threadripper is due on tuesday.

if i get it i will post a movie of it running.

I hope to do 24,000 hash at under 200 watts.

this is the 3970x.

Looking forward to your super rig Phil.

I am itching to get similar rig or two going.

Would you be considering liquid cooling or a special casing for the rig?
legendary
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My threadripper is due on tuesday.

if i get it i will post a movie of it running.

I hope to do 24,000 hash at under 200 watts.

this is the 3970x.
legendary
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meanwhile.....

Nicehash is paying nearly 6x for SHA256..... some buyer must have feeling super crazy rich or just plain ignorant



Yes its because of the messed up Bitcoin Cash retarget algo. Basically after the halving, most of the miners left. And they have this complicated difficulty retarget system. So lately the blocks are usually 1-2 hours apart for a few hours and then they are about 1-2 minutes apart. So miners are essentially "pool hopping" between bitcoin and bitcoin cash OR the nicehash miners are taking advantage of this.

The bitcoin core dev wrote a tweet about this last week addressing this concern. I think he said it will eventually become stable but I am still surprised it has these erratic block times when its been a few days already.

Reminds me of the days when their first retarget algo went live, and basically BCH had like 1 minute blocks for the entire during of the retarget and it went on for days until it finally stablized. Miners kept switching back and forth. Hence why they are 1 month ahead in block times.
legendary
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
meanwhile.....

Nicehash is paying nearly 6x for SHA256..... some buyer must have feeling super crazy rich or just plain ignorant



The solo gamblers have been getting the craaaaaazy fever.....
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
meanwhile.....

Nicehash is paying nearly 6x for SHA256..... some buyer must have feeling super crazy rich or just plain ignorant

legendary
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legendary
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Man that is crazy price for gas. We are about 2 bucks here in NJ

If you can get a diesel generator it will be a bit cheaper.

Plus diesel fuel stores a longer time then gasoline.

problem is here, none of the diesel generators meet the CARB requirements for emissions....  and the ones that do, are massive, or waaaaayy over priced.

I did have a brown gas generator once, that fed a small 2Kw gas generator that has a propane kit installed....   Thing would keep itself running as long as the water stayed cool enough to not boil away and foul up the running mix.  Its an interesting feeling to have a ganerator running by itself on electrolosys of water;  but, I used a small welder as the power supply for the brown gas... and never hooked anything else to it.   This had to have been in ~98-99'
legendary
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Man that is crazy price for gas. We are about 2 bucks here in NJ

If you can get a diesel generator it will be a bit cheaper.

Plus diesel fuel stores a longer time then gasoline.
legendary
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Looks like the price of oil is about to hit another 20 year low. And it got me thinking. What if... you can buy cheap gasoline to power a generator to mine. Will it be profitable?

Now I know that running sensitive computer equipment on a generator is a horrible idea, because the power won't be as stable as from a power grid.

Using this as an example,
https://generatorpowersource.com/generator-fuel-consumption/

It says a 5kW generator uses 18 gallons of gasoline for 24 hours. So basically 5kW*24=120kWh.

Average home power costs are $0.10 kwh so 120kwh would be about $12 in electricity costs. How much does 18 gallons of fuel cost? $2/gallon so $72.

Hence it seems that its still 6x as more expensive. Maybe with a diesel generator would be more efficient or propane.

Ironically, im getting closer to working on a brown gas generator again....  Here in Cali, we are still seeing over $3/gallon in the bay area in many places.... and knowing the wholesale price hit a bottom of of $0.14....  is insane, when you consider the *inflation adjusted* minimum from the past which was $0.24.   $0.28 goes towards a "phantom tax" that no investigator has been able to figure out where it finally ends up....  double the wholesale price per gallon in CA:  to god knows where in who frikken knows account.
legendary
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solid oak slab left over from 1990's speaker projects
need to drill 4 holes for the nylon rods
need to cut a 6 inch hole for the psu to breath





rubber feet to lift slab high enough to allow psu to breath

legendary
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Hmm  using a generator you need a good one. With good power sinewave.



Oh moving along on the threadripper 3970x build


Will mount over a corsair psu  cut a breathing hole in oak slab and attach to slab with 4 ¼ inch nylon thread rods



asus lower end mobo 449 with 8 x 16gb ram



low end passive msi gpu a 710
an aorus nvme 2 500gb ssd 4th gen
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