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That's was your statement: "Big money, in this case, is what Jelurida, the team, will charge private organizations for the chains and related services."
 So if you say that, then you know exactly. Otherwise it's another FUD

I don't understand such a question. Hate to term it but it is simply stupid. It DOES NOT MATTER how much they charge. Any logical individual would assume that they will charge whatever the market allows, if there's a market for it. I know how much they charge for their services, everyone interested will know, but not many will because it is irrelevant. They started Jelurida, like any other individuals would do, to make as much profit as they can. THAT part is legitimate. What it isn't is to mount the whole business for themselves on the shoulders (network) of NXT/ARDOR holders. It is akin to Vitalik and his friends now coming with the upcoming upgrade of Ethereum, call it Delirium and say, but this is different so we will give every holder of ETH one DEL and there will be two. The main difference is that DEL will have the hybrid protocol of PoW/PoS. And then, in 2018, launching yet another token, ASSCOIN, this one exactly the same than the other two but full PoS protocol. In this case, Vitalik and friend would have set up a private company, for-profit one, and say, instead of giving you one for one, like before, this time it will be 1/2 for one and the other 1/2 we will do an ICO and 25% of it will go to this private company me and my friends have set up and the rest of the other 1/2 will go to... me, for future development, promo, etc. Get the picture now? Well, it gets better: Vitalik would say, from now on, we are going to charge, this company me and my friends have mounted, that is, is going to charge for every private use of our code, which will be private and sold for profit ... profit for me and my fiends enterprise. You, nothing. The gas. You just keep maintaining the network. But do not worry, your compensation will come with the usage that will be much improved since we are going to sell the shit out of our code, software and services. Lots of crumbs for you.

Well, that is what these greedy geniuses have drawn for themselves.

But you, very stupidly I'm afraid, ask for links to their prices... One has to see this to believe it, really. Wow.

Barrabas, do you know how much Jelurida will charge private organizations for it service? How much is big? You should have some link to public information about how much Jelurida charge. Or you take things out of the blue sky again and post here as "facts"?

Does anyone know if Poloniex will give us IGNIS if we hold NXT coins in the exchange?

Which is crumbs, peanuts, next to nothing. Big money, in this case, is what Jelurida, the team, will charge private organizations for the chains and related services. All profits to them, crumbs to the carriers in the network.

FUD indeed, how convenient... But the ones that carry the network right now, including YOU, know exactly what I am talking about.

This is beyond belief greed. Beyond description unfair. But hey, it might work.... for them, Jelurida boys.

www.ardorplatform.org
www.jelurida.com/resources

Thanks. I found this from the article:
ARDR distribution
The ARDR coin distribution will be 100% based on ARDR asset balances from the Nxt blockchain, in 1:1 ratio, with each user account automatically receiving the same number of ARDR coins on the Ardor platform as the number of ARDR tokens they have at the time of the snapshot.
What is Ardor platform?

Just read https://www.jelurida.com/ico since it's updated.

another question: when will the ARDR token be transferred into ARDR coin? Will there be any snapshot for that?

When does the NXT snapshot take place for IGNIS and did we ever get confirmation that Poloniex will honor the snapshot for NXT holders?

I've been away too long and can't find the answer.  Thanks.

Just put the guy on ignore. He's probably a paid troll.

Child chain bundlers will pay hardcoded fee in ARDR, not less. Which big money and where will they go?

FUD again by barrabas.

Just to add for clarification: There will be totally private chains, with private tokens. And they will of course use the network and pay (minimal) fees for it. If they are successful, hundreds, thousands of them. You will carry them but you will get just very little crumbs while the big money goes... well, you know.

Your right assessment regarding the license, doesn't need any further explanation, it speaks for itself.

I both amuse and annoy you? hey, everyone should choose the tortures they like.

And wonder no more, karma could strike. Or not. But in that particular lottery, you, by betting on this project, carry most of the tickets. I'll try to help you and other converts by continue posting the criticism about greed and pretensions of this team, for others to consider while they make their decision and for you to be amused and annoyed... it seems to be the flavor you like. And I will continue trading this crap also, as I have been... not that either of us gives a flying fuck about what the other's interests, which makes this conversation all together absurd, therefore I'm putting an end to it. Happy trails.

You just did, fucking idiot!!   

Why would I ignore you?  You wish, pal, you amuse me just enough to say anything about it.
I deserve everything I get?  Totally agree, dude!!!  I ask for it too, wholeheartedly!!   
... and boy, have I been getting what I deserve this year, I want more of what I deserve!!! XD
I also don't expect NXT to make me a fortune but I do like the technology.

Like many other currencies has its pros and cons but I share the vision of the developers.
Everyone has different goals, different purposes, why must you crap on others who do?
Easy to procrastinate only need to open your mouth, hard work is required to create.
All you create here is FUD.... and annoying.  If others sell their investments, so be it, it's a fact of investing.

You get what you deserve too, it's not just a one way street... maybe in your liberal utopia you can but in real world, you can't.

I ask for it, you want others to get it... I wonder where karma will strike first.

@barrabas: Don't worry, I've so far only invested less than 1 USD in the whole NXT/ARDOR complex. So I won't get burned


Ah, now I understand. Thanks for clarification. What I doubted were "private" chains in the sense of "undetectable" or "encrypted", that only can be "seen" (=read) by the members of the organization/consortium - that should not be possible with the current Ardor concept (if they didn't add some kind of private childchainblock transaction ...).


Yes, but I had in mind that "user child chain creation" was scheduled for early 2018. Now it's in the "research project" category. That's a change I don't like particularly because it smells a bit like vapourware.

Yes. I hate this license and it seems they have ignored all my arguments against it and in favour to use a standard open source license like the GPL. It is PROPRIETARY CRAP and will NEVER become the standard in cryptocurrencies. And dumb greedy short-sighted "investors" (=pump-and-dumpers) even are applauding this CRAP.

Sorry, I really seldom be that clear, but this license deserves all the insults.

Obviously I don't post for "winners" like you. You deserve everything you get. And encourage you to just hit that great button on the left and ignore my posts altogether.

So relieved people like you don't care about my postings. For a moment there I thought you might...

Barabbas - I don't understand why you are even here, I mean... all you do is complain about greedy developers but don;t seem to understand the corporate world.
So you're just a loser looking to cause trouble, it's all you are, a mouthy loser troll without a life.
Cryptos are financial markets, you expect no greed?  Banks are greedy, you likely hold money in one; makes you a hypocrite.
Why don't you go flow your anger elsewhere, all you do here is cause people to buy more to shut you the fuck up; you're not contributing to anything.
Sounds to me like you're just a coward taking hits at people looking to make money and earning a living.
Get out of people's lives, you'll be a lot happier and a lot less bitter.

If you don't like NXT, so be it, just fuck off, no one cares what you have to say; you're just freaking out over nothing at this point.

Next thing is, true capitalists don't care what you have to say, we only care about making money; if we lose it, so be it, it's part of the game.

I am already up over 12 times my investment in NXT, do you think I give a flying fuck what you have to say, at all?

No, you're a fucking loser and I don't listen to losers; winners wouldn't be here whining, they're out making money.

If you are, wtf do you care what people in here do with THEIR money??

Your words means absolutely nothing, less than nothing.  

Now with Polo troll box down, every loser and wanker that was there, needs a new hobby but since they ain't good at anything else; like protesters.... bottom of the barrel it is!!

FYI, newcomers!
Did you know you can mine NXT (and buy Ardor with it on the Nxt Asset Exchange!) in the Lucky node project?
Computational and bandwidth requirements are very low - some users run it on a Raspberry Pi.
Run the node 24/7 or as often as you can while you work or play.
Join in with the over 100 nodes that are already in the project.

It is a pity that this happened. We hope for the best!
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